Abortion demonstration just doesn't sound right.

CUBert

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You haven't the ability to think, let alone rethink. Given the rest of your post, that is about a 6 year old girl, not a baby.

Do I really have to explain the difference between a child and an infant? Or is this your way of skirting around facts, so you don't have to acknowledge reality?


Completely irrelevant.... They're unwanted ... As well, the adoption process takes a long time, you aren't likely to adopt an infant immediately after birth.
 

petros

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Funnier than that is, the fact that the cost of foreign adoption is almost triple that of domestic. But with a waiting list for children born here, people are so willing to be parents, that they will jump through hoops, and mortgage the house to the hilt to adopt a baby, no matter where they're from.

But that's just fantasy according to some clowns.
I wish I could say that some of the same excuses for adopting weren't mirrored for having an abortion. Vanity reasons, financial, waited to long or complications from previous in vitro terminations but at least they are truly emotionally prepared and willing to make the sacrifices of raising a healthy happy child.
 

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Completely irrelevant.... They're unwanted ... As well, the adoption process takes a long time, you aren't likely to adopt an infant immediately after birth.

You could, quite honestly, if there were enough available. But social services has decided that it's better to encourage young girls to keep their babies, and live on welfare, so there are very few newborns available for adoption.

The waiting list is, typically, 7 to 10 years for a newborn / infant.

The best way to reduce the number of abortions is to turn being pregnant into an income-generating position. Pay the girls to stay pregnant/clean/sober, as long as they agree to give up the kid when born.
 

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Completely irrelevant....
So that's a yes to the second question. At least you answered a question for a change.

... As well, the adoption process takes a long time, you aren't likely to adopt an infant immediately after birth.
LMAO!!!

It can take up to a year, foreign even longer. First you apply, then you get examined, inside and out. Then you wait for a child to be born, and put up for adoption. The list is long, and the wait is longer.

But keep ignoring reality as it suits your agenda. It's the only consistent thing you do.

You could, quite honestly, if there were enough available. But social services has decided that it's better to encourage young girls to keep their babies, and live on welfare, so there are very few newborns available for adoption.

The waiting list is, typically, 7 to 10 years for a newborn / infant.

The best way to reduce the number of abortions is to turn being pregnant into an income-generating position. Pay the girls to stay pregnant/clean/sober, as long as they agree to give up the kid when born.
You were doing great up to the last sentence. But I gave you a thumbs up anyways.
 

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Anyone change their mind yet?

Naaah! we're just playing the dumb cat with a piece of paper and a string....and he doesn't know which way to jump
 

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I wish I could say that some of the same excuses for adopting weren't mirrored for having an abortion. Vanity reasons, financial, waited to long or complications from previous in vitro terminations but at least they are truly emotionally prepared and willing to make the sacrifices of raising a healthy happy child.


you have no clue the reasons people get abortions, you don't understand abortion (no pro-lifer does) to begin with or it's clear positive affect it has on society.

It can take up to a year, foreign even longer. First you apply, then you get examined, inside and out. Then you wait for a child to be born, and put up for adoption. The list is long, and the wait is longer.

Yes, a year minimum.
 

petros

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you have no clue the reasons people get abortions, you don't understand abortion (no pro-lifer does) to begin with or it's clear positive affect it has on society.



Yes, a year minimum.
Why wouldn't I understand? I've been in the postion to decide. You should have read my lengthy post were I exposed a big chunk of myself for all to see. Would you like a link?

I'm pro choice.

Only because of the phenomenon that petros already mentioned.
Which one?
 

CDNBear

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Yes, a year minimum.
To get on the list. Then you wait for a baby to be born, and placed up for adoption. But feel free to keep dancing around the facts. It's like watching DaS's cat play.

Well, I wouldn't want to waste all that money and have the little **** change her mind. After all, like becoming pregnant, you have to accept the consequences of your actions.
Are you referring to adoption where the adoptive parents know and financially support the birth mother?

Which one?
Young women who change their mind about adoption, after giving birth.
 

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Are you referring to adoption where the adoptive parents know and financially support the birth mother?

Nope, I'm envisioning a new system, where our welfare system pays the girls to be pregnant and give the kids up for adoption, as long as they stay drug-free and sober.

Solves a bunch of problems.

Reduces abortion rates.
Keeps girls from having kids just to collect welfare - they're employed as broodmares instead.
Reduces foreign spending on international adoptions.
Improves the economy, because the couples waiting to adopt will spend lots of money on the babies they get to adopt.
Increases employment for social workers, monitoring the girls in the program.

Lots of upsides for everyone.

And no changing of their minds once the kid is born, we'll call it the gerry clause.
 

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yes, sometimes a child can spend 4-5 years or longer in ****ty foster homes and be psychological damaged, hence the validity of the the adoption horror story.
You can keep trying to put the cart before the horse to avoid facing reality, but it only makes your posts foolish.

why are you arguing with me again?
Because it's fun, and you think abortion is a contraceptive.
 

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So that's your excuse for accusing him of beating his wife and raping his kids?Each time you insult someone cause of there inability
Each time you insult someone cause of there inability to correctly spell. Do it Knowing that you are potentially insulting someone with a mental handicap. Its the equivalent to laughing at someone with no legs for the fact he can't walk. I've been reading and posting on forums for a very long time so long in fact, that even a dumb stupid moron would have learned to spell by now. Somone's inability to Spell correctly is not a indication of his intelligence to make valid arguments, and post opinions. He simply has no respect for the majority of others.


Maybe he doesn't rape kids. maybe he doesn't beat his wife. But that he has a deep psychological scare from some kind of abuse from his past. That I'm almost certain of.
 

CDNBear

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Nope, I'm envisioning a new system, where our welfare system pays the girls to be pregnant and give the kids up for adoption, as long as they stay drug-free and sober.

Solves a bunch of problems.

Reduces abortion rates.
Keeps girls from having kids just to collect welfare - they're employed as broodmares instead.
Reduces foreign spending on international adoptions.
Improves the economy, because the couples waiting to adopt will spend lots of money on the babies they get to adopt.
Increases employment for social workers, monitoring the girls in the program.

Lots of upsides for everyone.

And no changing of their minds once the kid is born, we'll call it the gerry clause.
I just had a sargasm.
 

CUBert

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You can keep trying to put the cart before the horse to avoid facing reality, but it only makes your posts foolish.

What was wrong in what I said? Maybe you should talk about that, I will help you in debating techniques.

Because it's fun, and you think abortion is a contraceptive.

I wonder where I said that,oh yea, I didn't.

Abortion helps the well-being of society, PERIOD!!!!

Nope, I'm envisioning a new system, where our welfare system pays the girls to be pregnant and give the kids up for adoption, as long as they stay drug-free and sober.

Solves a bunch of problems.

Reduces abortion rates.
Keeps girls from having kids just to collect welfare - they're employed as broodmares instead.
Reduces foreign spending on international adoptions.
Improves the economy, because the couples waiting to adopt will spend lots of money on the babies they get to adopt.
Increases employment for social workers, monitoring the girls in the program.

Lots of upsides for everyone.

And no changing of their minds once the kid is born, we'll call it the gerry clause.


The Adoption-industrial complex
 

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Question for other pro-lifers here: how would you want the government to help pregnant women who want to keep their children?

Honestly, I don't see rights for the pre-born coming into law any time soon, so I figure the alternative is to focus on how to make keeping a baby more attractive. This to me would mean making quality education more accessible for all, reducing wasteful government spending (related to education since the money has to come from somewhere), and that's where I would start. This way single mothers could get better education and so get better-paying jobs to support their child.

Year-round schooling for the 5-15-year-old age range would likely help too so that single mothers would not need to worry about their child during those years. And should the mother be in school herself, daycare provided at the college could help too.