Geert Wilders comes to Canada

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I wonder if the Galloway supporters that won him entrance to Canada to speak will be so vocal in defending Mr. Wilders' right to speak????

Can't speak for Canada but you will recall that many right wingers demanded that Galloway be silenced. Will they employ the same standard to Wilders?
 

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Vacuous!

You offer no argument, no critical thought, no rebuttal here..........

Just a baseless accusation. The last refuge of the loser.

Offer an argument to WHAT? Your stupid hate site?? You've left nothing to argue, I destroyed everything you've brought fourth and your last resort was copying and pasting quotes from the Qu'ran that you had no understanding of.. I showed you how you're taking those quotes out of context... firstly you need to read the entire verse to understand it, secondly you need to know a little about the history of the time the verse was written... then you post a link to a hate site... OH yeah you got me good!
 

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Wait.. So Geert didn't make any distinction between moderates and extremists? oh boy..

Also as was already mentioned.. get ready to hear more about Africa in the next few years. It will soon become clearly evident to the rest of the world that there is more extremism and death in the Congo then there ever was in the middle east. Except people will begin to realize that nothing has been done about it because there isn't substantial petrol in those regions.
 

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But what I said about understanding the context of the verse can be applied to them all. . . .
If you say so. But given the fact that you make claims, offer opinions, without knowing all the facts. Continuously. You'll have to excuse me if I just don't have any respect for your assertions, without proof.

You're joking
Of course, how else could you be the punchline.
 
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The presence of Muslims in Canada threatens the country’s freedoms and democracy, and only if immigration from Islamic countries is suspended can the cultural deterioration of the country be stopped, controversial Dutch politician Geert Wilders told a packed house Monday night in Toronto.

“Our Western culture is far superior to Islamic culture,” Mr. Wilders said. “And only once we are convinced of this will we be able to defend our civilization.”

Islam a threat to Western freedom: Wilders | Posted | National Post
 

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Thank god for Ezra.

Every time he speaks I'm just 10X more enlightened about the world.

He really puts his freedom of speech to good use by educating Canadians about things that are completely relevant to our lives, like the countless members of Islam who reduce our freedoms to cringe worthy levels.

If I wasn't a completely mindless drone about this whole Muslim situation, I might actually be able to put the relevance of Islam into context. But until then, I'll continue to live my completely empty and predictably fear-induced life that has been fed to me by this unequivocally fair and unbiased source.

For Ezra!

For Free Speech!


 

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Just another worldly opinion, which means very little to me, so please don't let it grind your gears.

I see some truth to what this guy is saying, but I can't see it going over to well here, given Canada's overall deeply embedded suicidal liberal mindset.
In countries like France, or England, where they mistakenly had an open door policy when it came to those haters, they now have parts of their cities (where their invited immigrant Muslims have populated) that are now declared 'No Go Zones"
Think about it - Parts of their countries very own cities now have places where their very own authorities dare not go into.
That is totally whacked, if you ask me.

Harper's hypocrisy may have destroyed my trust in him, but I will say this for our newly elected pretender.
Of the three stooges that were up for grabs, I think Harper is better equipped to understand the dangers which The Cult Of Islam poses to our right to follow upon the path of the greed inspired western way.
 

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Some of his points are valid and in my opinion the solutions he proposes range from "not a bad idea" to "I wonder if this is how Hitler sounded at first?" The popularity of his ideas in Holland represent a new and more extreme push in one direction on the scale, while his prosecution for hatred is an equally extreme push in the other.

I think t is difficult to argue that if nothing else, he draws attention to the fact that our hate speech laws need to be reviewed. Although I may think they are misguided, a racist should be free to think his culture superior to another and speak out about the differences to what ever degree he wishes. When he starts "specifically" inciting others to take violent action against another group's property or person then bring the ax down hard. If the law goes any further than that it opens itself up to interpretations that can and are applied to a wide range of somewhat radical but harmless opinions.
 

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Note where I wrote moderate Islam....moderate Muslims practicing their moderate Islam.

Geert is wrong. Anyone who took a comparative world religion class, or with a logical brain, could refute his nonsense.

There is no moderate Islam, there are just Muslims who temper their religion with their humanity. Most Catholics use birth control, that doesn't mean there is a Moderate Catholicism that sanctions birth control, it means most Catholics are ignoring an aspect of their religion. A fundamental Catholic would have no choice but to abandon birth control, or be a sinner.
 

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No, your arguments that Islam is a violent religion are squashed my friend..... There are a billion peaceful muslims who don't engage in any sort of violence, if this was a violent religion and in their book told them to be violent , how is it possible for the huge majority of it's adherents to be non-violent? ? ?
 

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I caught that interview yesterday. He (Geert) compared the Koran and its writings to mein kampf.

Qur'an 4:089: They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.

Qur'an 4:091: You will find others who desire that they should be safe from you and secure from their own people; as often as they are sent back to the mischief they get thrown into it headlong; therefore if they do not withdraw from you, and (do not) offer you peace and restrain their hands, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them; and against these We have given you a clear authority.

Qur'an 9:005: So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

And the Hadith:

“"The Day of Judgement will not come about until Muslims fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Muslims, O Abdullah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews."


The above is actually part of the Charter of Hamas.

And taken together, it sounds much like Mein Kampf