Geert Wilders comes to Canada
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And that has nothing to do with the question...
Gad damn you're funny!!!
How long do we have to do this before you have another melt down? They're hilarious.
Still can't answer the question eh?
If you need the 'win' that bad, you can have it. If for nothing else but the shear entertainment and that really hilarious melt down you had. That was awesome!!!
What does socialism have to do with constitutionality or an awareness thereof?
Nothing. Just that I see people acknowledge Sweden for there, well thought out, non-conventional way's of doing things and the success they have had with it. Its something I respect. So I mention them cause I think it makes a positive image of them in the world. Something I think our Country should pursue.
And what exactly has India done that is so great? I know several Tamils that might not agree with you.
They have over come many odd's and produced a democracy in a country everyone said was doomed to fail. I'm sure India has many problem, and negative things too, I wasn't really trying to say they are better then us. Just that no one thought they would make it this far, in the first place. Take the time to watch some of this stuff. I know we are much more exposed to negative press from India its normal and is a price to pay when Indian government is not controlling and stopping Free Speech. Negative things get published in the press.
Shashi Tharoor: Why nations should pursue "soft" power | Video on TED.com
Kiran Bir Sethi teaches kids to take charge | Video on TED.com
Theres ton's of good coming from India. And they are dealing with 20% Muslim population so we can learn what works, and whats not working for them. The same way we lisen to what Geert Wilders had to say.
I wasn't talking about terrorist activities. I was talking about FGM, honour killings, feuds, and so on.
I say handle them criminally. The same way we handle Canadians that do criminal acts. I think its fair to say we aren't saints ether. Is there proof that Muslims are doing more criminal acts then our normal population?
FGM, honor killings etc... Are crimes, Immigrants should be well informed of our laws and if they not follow them, should expect to be punished.
Tamil Tigers extorting Tamil businesses, to fund terrorist activities in Srilanka.
I Need to learn more before I can really talk of this situation. do you have links to good source of information, about this subject?
Tighter controls on immigration
zero tolerance for primitive cultural activities
1 offence, found guilty, set packing.
I think its a very sensitive problem that will need much thought to realize a winning policy, and solve this dangerous situation.
It will be interesting to watch Prime Minister Harper and his conservative handle it. and bring forth I hope, a very positive Canadian reform of the immigration policy. I hope they work long and hard on something I can be proud of. Id like them to take a real fundamental look at:
what results we are really trying to produce? and,
is the policy really producing results that we are trying to obtain?
To often, I look at our legislation thinking, Is this law really solving the problem
or just making us feel we are solving the problem, but not actually accomplishing that goal.
It will certainly show us if Mr. Harper is in fact a competent politician.
Here is a link to a good Talk on legal problems if you have time to watch it.
Its nothing directly linked to Immigrants. Its just a look at our society, and our
Legal Gridlock, and insight into why the government is acting like this
with the Free Speech, and all the lawsuit. Thats our legal system being all
wrong. (not really a Immigration problem).
Philip K. Howard: Four ways to fix a broken legal system | Video on TED.com
What do you think?
Nothing. Just that I see people acknowledge Sweden for there, well thought out, non-conventional way's of doing things and the success they have had with it. Its something I respect. So I mention them cause I think it makes a positive image of them in the world. Something I think our Country should pursue.
And what exactly has India done that is so great? I know several Tamils that might not agree with you.
They have over come many odd's and produced a democracy in a country everyone said was doomed to fail. I'm sure India has many problem, and negative things too, I wasn't really trying to say they are better then us. Just that no one thought they would make it this far, in the first place. Take the time to watch some of this stuff. I know we are much more exposed to negative press from India its normal and is a price to pay when Indian government is not controlling and stopping Free Speech. Negative things get published in the press.
Shashi Tharoor: Why nations should pursue "soft" power | Video on TED.com
Kiran Bir Sethi teaches kids to take charge | Video on TED.com
Theres ton's of good coming from India. And they are dealing with 20% Muslim population so we can learn what works, and whats not working for them. The same way we lisen to what Geert Wilders had to say.
I wasn't talking about terrorist activities. I was talking about FGM, honour killings, feuds, and so on.
I say handle them criminally. The same way we handle Canadians that do criminal acts. I think its fair to say we aren't saints ether. Is there proof that Muslims are doing more criminal acts then our normal population?
FGM, honor killings etc... Are crimes, Immigrants should be well informed of our laws and if they not follow them, should expect to be punished.
Tamil Tigers extorting Tamil businesses, to fund terrorist activities in Srilanka.
I Need to learn more before I can really talk of this situation. do you have links to good source of information, about this subject?
Tighter controls on immigration
zero tolerance for primitive cultural activities
1 offence, found guilty, set packing.
I think its a very sensitive problem that will need much thought to realize a winning policy, and solve this dangerous situation.
It will be interesting to watch Prime Minister Harper and his conservative handle it. and bring forth I hope, a very positive Canadian reform of the immigration policy. I hope they work long and hard on something I can be proud of. Id like them to take a real fundamental look at:
what results we are really trying to produce? and,
is the policy really producing results that we are trying to obtain?
To often, I look at our legislation thinking, Is this law really solving the problem
or just making us feel we are solving the problem, but not actually accomplishing that goal.
It will certainly show us if Mr. Harper is in fact a competent politician.
Here is a link to a good Talk on legal problems if you have time to watch it.
Its nothing directly linked to Immigrants. Its just a look at our society, and our
Legal Gridlock, and insight into why the government is acting like this
with the Free Speech, and all the lawsuit. Thats our legal system being all
wrong. (not really a Immigration problem).
Philip K. Howard: Four ways to fix a broken legal system | Video on TED.com
What do you think?
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Excellent video, very well written propaganda. One, he completely forgot to mention the battle with the Tamils. Two, he nicely glossed over the issues in the north. But he was very up beat about it, while highlighting and embracing modern stereotypes of India.
Very interesting, thank you for that. That will be something I will try and incorporate in to my work with at risk youth.
I agree to some extent. But I would assert that there are reasons of cultural similarity that would allow the various 'primitive' culture/religious types to function within the same frame work.
Justice does not heal the damage. It merely punishes the guilty. Why allow more to enter the country?
Some crimes, yes.
I agree, charged, tried and if found guilty, deported immediately.
Group slams Tigers' Toronto 'terrorism' - thestar.com
I agree, that policy should be, charged, tried, if found guilty, deported immediately.
When you say 'we', do you mean the whole of Canada, or are you referring to yourself and like minded people?
It's impossible please all the people, all the time.
Really?
But a system used by immigrants to get what they want, in the very manner Howard speaks out against.
I think he's right.
Excellent video, very well written propaganda. One, he completely forgot to mention the battle with the Tamils. Two, he nicely glossed over the issues in the north. But he was very up beat about it, while highlighting and embracing modern stereotypes of India.
All soft power is basically propaganda. And yes he's trying to paint a positive image of soft power and some of the positive things it can do. I'm sure it has failure as well.
Very interesting, thank you for that. That will be something I will try and incorporate in to my work with at risk youth.
Ya, that lady is on to something good and I can expect good things will come from those kids in the future.
I agree to some extent. But I would assert that there are reasons of cultural similarity that would allow the various 'primitive' culture/religious types to function within the same frame work.
I don't think its as simple as that. I think you are possibly right but only to a certain extent. There has to be something more they are doing right then just the fact they are similar. And stop taunting me with "Primitive" lol !!
Justice does not heal the damage. It merely punishes the guilty. Why allow more to enter the country?
As long as they are not way more disorderly then our existing population I don't see why we should stop. Sure there crimes may be different then what we are use to, but that is normal. they are different. Though I know little of the subject, I'm sure there are economical reasons to grow our population with immigration.
Some crimes, yes.
I think thats normal and only proves they are diffrent.
it would be interesting to know if they actually commit more serious crime then our existing population. That information could help in deciding what direction is best to take.
I agree, charged, tried and if found guilty, deported immediately.
I think you have some good arguments to support this action.
Group slams Tigers' Toronto 'terrorism' - thestar.com
Thank you, I'll try and do a little digging of my own and try to come up with a clear image of the situation.
It looks complex.
When you say 'we', do you mean the whole
We as in "Canada"
It's impossible please all the people, all the time.
I was thinking more in the line's of Law's that don't work to resolve the problem it intends to fix.
Really?
On second thought maybe Immigration policy don't need intensive reform
But a system used by immigrants to get what they want, in the very manner Howard speaks out against.
I think he's right.
Yes our Legal system is vulnerable. A huge reform of it is greatly needed, so it can't be exploited by anyone. including immigrants. I wasn't sure at first, but I'm starting to see this situation has much more to do with our legal system not handling things very well at all
All soft power is basically propaganda. And yes he's trying to paint a positive image of soft power and some of the positive things it can do. I'm sure it has failure as well.
Very interesting, thank you for that. That will be something I will try and incorporate in to my work with at risk youth.
Ya, that lady is on to something good and I can expect good things will come from those kids in the future.
I agree to some extent. But I would assert that there are reasons of cultural similarity that would allow the various 'primitive' culture/religious types to function within the same frame work.
I don't think its as simple as that. I think you are possibly right but only to a certain extent. There has to be something more they are doing right then just the fact they are similar. And stop taunting me with "Primitive" lol !!
Justice does not heal the damage. It merely punishes the guilty. Why allow more to enter the country?
As long as they are not way more disorderly then our existing population I don't see why we should stop. Sure there crimes may be different then what we are use to, but that is normal. they are different. Though I know little of the subject, I'm sure there are economical reasons to grow our population with immigration.
Some crimes, yes.
I think thats normal and only proves they are diffrent.
it would be interesting to know if they actually commit more serious crime then our existing population. That information could help in deciding what direction is best to take.
I agree, charged, tried and if found guilty, deported immediately.
I think you have some good arguments to support this action.
Group slams Tigers' Toronto 'terrorism' - thestar.com
Thank you, I'll try and do a little digging of my own and try to come up with a clear image of the situation.
It looks complex.
When you say 'we', do you mean the whole
We as in "Canada"
It's impossible please all the people, all the time.
I was thinking more in the line's of Law's that don't work to resolve the problem it intends to fix.
Really?
On second thought maybe Immigration policy don't need intensive reform
But a system used by immigrants to get what they want, in the very manner Howard speaks out against.
I think he's right.
Yes our Legal system is vulnerable. A huge reform of it is greatly needed, so it can't be exploited by anyone. including immigrants. I wasn't sure at first, but I'm starting to see this situation has much more to do with our legal system not handling things very well at all
Ya, hard power blow back, by alienated citizens.
Or at least until their cuteness wears off.
Or maybe it's something they're doing wrong, that prevents some societal groups from accessing the same amount of freedoms. two words, cast system.
I'm not necessarily taunting you, as much as I am focusing on a word you used to describe an aspect of cultural/religious fundamentalism. Because I actually believe it is relevant to conversation.
Yes, there are.
There's different, then there is an affront to what Canadian society.
Serious, no. Culturally or religiously acceptable in their eyes, yes.
http://www.thestar.com/article/581981
There's nothing complex about extortion.
Do you think you speak for those that feel disenfranchised by new comers?
You mean like gun laws?
Oh it does.
Maybe.
Or at least until their cuteness wears off.
LOL
I'm not necessarily taunting you, as much as I am focusing on a word you used to describe an aspect of cultural/religious fundamentalism. Because I actually believe it is relevant to conversation.
Ya I guess it depends in what context you use it.
There's different, then there is an affront to what Canadian society.
Really? I live in Ottawa, and the Arab population is high here.
I can't say I have witnessed a affront to Canada's society.
I'm not saying your wrong. I just have not witnessed any
in my comunity. That may be Ignorence on my part though. lol
Do you think you speak for those that feel disenfranchised by new comers?
Canada as in everyone including disenfrenchised, and Immigrents
You mean like gun laws?
Yes, but not limited to only "gun law"
Oh it does.
Yes but not as much like I first thought.
Maybe
The problem with this is I don't see any politician wanting to touch the court system even with a ten foot pole. lol
(The stuff I took out I mostly agree with you on)
LOL
I'm not necessarily taunting you, as much as I am focusing on a word you used to describe an aspect of cultural/religious fundamentalism. Because I actually believe it is relevant to conversation.
Ya I guess it depends in what context you use it.
There's different, then there is an affront to what Canadian society.
Really? I live in Ottawa, and the Arab population is high here.
I can't say I have witnessed a affront to Canada's society.
I'm not saying your wrong. I just have not witnessed any
in my comunity. That may be Ignorence on my part though. lol
Do you think you speak for those that feel disenfranchised by new comers?
Canada as in everyone including disenfrenchised, and Immigrents
You mean like gun laws?
Yes, but not limited to only "gun law"
Oh it does.
Yes but not as much like I first thought.
Maybe
The problem with this is I don't see any politician wanting to touch the court system even with a ten foot pole. lol
(The stuff I took out I mostly agree with you on)
I've seen it, admittedly only a few times. But there are quite a cases in the courts, that IMHO, are crimes that were committed by people, whose primitive cultural/religious practices, are an affront to Canadian society.
Not that I'm disenfranchised, but you don't speak for me.
Why is that?
That's a given, no politician wants to slit his own throat, even if it means doing something that benefits the nation.
That's a given, no politician wants to slit his own throat, even if it means doing something that benefits the nation.
Yes and it would mean they actually have hard work on the table for at least 2 years.
Most politicians don't even show up to work half the time. >.< doh! Now i'm depressed
Yes and it would mean they actually have hard work on the table for at least 2 years.
Most politicians don't even show up to work half the time. >.< doh! Now i'm depressed