Arab Deaths and US Hypocrisy

EagleSmack

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That's not necessarily true though.

You're right. I should have been more clear and asked "How can they know?".


We can know the estimated cost of this operation (and how that effects taxpayers).
We can know the estimated probability of removing this dictator.
We can know the scope of this no-fly zone and the level of force to be used.
We can know the total amount of casualties and can compare that with expected casualties (both good and bad guys).

In the billions as far as estimated cost. At least for us in the US.

Your second question is tricky. We could definately remove him... but how far are we willing to go?

This "NO FLY ZONE" has turned into much more than that. Perhaps that was the intent all along but bombing tanks and truck convoys to me seems more than keeping Libyan jets on the ground.

How can we know the estimated casualties? There is no stop date.

And I'm sure a lot of people want to know the economic benefit from our looting and plundering.

We don't even get oil from Libya but France and England does. Perhaps Canada does too?

But the media tells us none of this.

I don't think the media knows.

I mean, christ, the least they can do is pop open excel and give us a legitimate breakdown. Everyone is in mental disarray because the most critical concepts surrounding the ordeal are never put into perspective.

I'd like to see one but I doubt it exists.
 

mt_pockets1000

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BTW, all you folks that have gone off the deep end over this little quote "Personally, I'd LOVE to invade Saudi Arabia, the Sudan, Yemen, Syria, North Korea, Iran...............bring them to heel, kill their leaders, and convert the people to Christianity." should understand that the nations listed are among the worst human rights abusers on earth, and YES I would love to see their dictators in their coffins, and the yoke raised off the necks of the people....I make no apology for that. DEATH TO TYRANTS

Why convert them to Christianity? They already have a religious affiliation.
 

Colpy

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Why convert them to Christianity? They already have a religious affiliation.


Actually, I was trolling a bit, paraphrasing Ann Coulter, immediately after 9-11......
"We should invade their countries, kill their leaders, and convert them to Christianity."

Ann Coulter Quotes - Funny and Outrageous Ann Coulter Quotes




But Islam is a HUGE part of the problem.

The medieval mindset inherent in Islam has meant that Islamic culture has actually slid backwards in the last 500 years........
 

EagleSmack

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The medieval mindset inherent in Islam has meant that Islamic culture has actually slid backwards in the last 500 years........


Maybe... just maybe they are going through some sort of reformation in the Middle East. One can only hope.
 

Cliffy

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But Islam is a HUGE part of the problem.

The medieval mindset inherent in Islam has meant that Islamic culture has actually slid backwards in the last 500 years........
According to your standards, maybe not to theirs. It is all relative to your perspective. Perhaps we have a technologically advanced civilization but we are destroying the planet with that technology, so I really have to wonder just who is more advanced. Seems to me we are far from being any more emotionally advanced than cave men judging from some of the comments on these forums.
 

BaalsTears

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In 1945 the Chinese were as poor as the Arabs. But the Chinese made something of themselves by pulling themselves up by their own bootstraps. Why weren't the Arabs capable of doing what the Chinese did? It says much about Arab social organization. The enemy of the Arabs is their own culture.
 

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Canada`s slimy, ass-kissing leader Harper and our military as a whole is a joke.

Even Gaddafi omitted mentioning this excuse of a NATO partner in his many rants. lol

"I am so worried about bad news!? ... Sometimes it just helps to hear it from a professional. Good luck!"

According to your standards, maybe not to theirs. It is all relative to your perspective. Perhaps we have a technologically advanced civilization but we are destroying the planet with that technology, so I really have to wonder just who is more advanced. Seems to me we are far from being any more emotionally advanced than cave men judging from some of the comments on these forums.
I miss the good old days, Oh I am the good old days. :)
 

EagleSmack

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According to your standards, maybe not to theirs. It is all relative to your perspective. Perhaps we have a technologically advanced civilization but we are destroying the planet with that technology, so I really have to wonder just who is more advanced.

As you type away at your keyboard.

Seems to me we are far from being any more emotionally advanced than cave men judging from some of the comments on these forums.


They're waiting for you Cliffy! Bon voyage!



 

darkbeaver

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In 1945 the Chinese were as poor as the Arabs. But the Chinese made something of themselves by pulling themselves up by their own bootstraps. Why weren't the Arabs capable of doing what the Chinese did? It says much about Arab social organization. The enemy of the Arabs is their own culture.


Everyone is their own worst enemy, witness the slurry identified as American culture. The enemy of the USA is their culture. How long will it take you to change that Mr Tears?
 

EagleSmack

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Everyone is their own worst enemy, witness the slurry identified as American culture. The enemy of the USA is their culture. How long will it take you to change that Mr Tears?

What are you talking about?! American Culture Rocks!
 

petros

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What are you talking about?! American Culture Rocks!
Almost all of it. It's pretty dry in N Dakota although Norsk Hostfest is a blast. Holy Scanadinavian Jesus!

This year will be Martina McBride, Trace Adkins, the Judds some Jesus band and Charlie Pride whooping it up.

Charlie Pride is kinda like the Obama of country music.



A nice set of Judds eh?
 

BaalsTears

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Everyone is their own worst enemy, witness the slurry identified as American culture. The enemy of the USA is their culture. How long will it take you to change that Mr Tears?

Change is coming like a runaway freight train. Let me tell you how it's going to happen.

American financial instability will continue to grow worse because of political paralysis. America's credit rating will deteriorate. Capital flight will get worse.

Some day a couple of major foreign or institutional investors will do a new cost/benefit relationship and decide that the magnitude of the risk exceeds the rewards of continuing to hold US Treasury securities. They will start selling, and overnight the value of US Treasuries will plummet. There will be a run on the dollar. And all the kings horses and all the kings men won't be able to put Humpty Dumpty together again.

The world will change overnight, and the American left with its big govt. program based on spending and borrowing and taxing will be held to be a discredited model. Only then will change begin.

Who is Canada's biggest trading partner? That's right. And when collapse comes to America who do you think will be affected? That's right my friend.
 

petros

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Change is coming like a runaway freight train. Let me tell you how it's going to happen.

American financial instability will continue to grow worse because of political paralysis. America's credit rating will deteriorate. Capital flight will get worse.

Some day a couple of major foreign or institutional investors will do a new cost/benefit relationship and decide that the magnitude of the risk exceeds the rewards of continuing to hold US Treasury securities. They will start selling, and overnight the value of US Treasuries will plummet. There will be a run on the dollar. And all the kings horses and all the kings men won't be able to put Humpty Dumpty together again.

The world will change overnight, and the American left with its big govt. program based on spending and borrowing and taxing will be held to be a discredited model. Only then will change begin.

Who is Canada's biggest trading partner. That's right. And when collapse comes to America who do you think will be affected? That's right my friend.
You watch/listen to Alex Jones don't you?

We have nothing to worry about. We just scored 20% of your oil imports and that will jump to 40% in 2012 not to mention the massive amounts of electricity exports that is increasing nearly two fold as well.

Happy Halloween!
 

darkbeaver

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Change is coming like a runaway freight train. Let me tell you how it's going to happen.

American financial instability will continue to grow worse because of political paralysis. America's credit rating will deteriorate. Capital flight will get worse.

Some day a couple of major foreign or institutional investors will do a new cost/benefit relationship and decide that the magnitude of the risk exceeds the rewards of continuing to hold US Treasury securities. They will start selling, and overnight the value of US Treasuries will plummet. There will be a run on the dollar. And all the kings horses and all the kings men won't be able to put Humpty Dumpty together again.

The world will change overnight, and the American left with its big govt. program based on spending and borrowing and taxing will be held to be a discredited model. Only then will change begin.

Who is Canada's biggest trading partner? That's right. And when collapse comes to America who do you think will be affected? That's right my friend.

Of course what you've said above is as right as rain with me, but. No need to threaten me with the collapse of The Republic of Usastan I am aware of our trade deal, somewhat. I will be affected and of course I will blame that on Americans because I just can't see the Taliban as directly responsible for my near future discomforts.
I wonder, do you see a reborn America being forgiven it's manifold sins (to many to list here) (and boring stuff by now anyway) by the new international community post victory of the Goodies and how will you avoid massive war reparations totaling many many trillions of whatever passes for currency then? The stars and stripes will be spit on by school children with no less disgust than the swastica now receives. Such are the rewards of failed imperialism, they say. You have never had a problem with big government. That has been a joke for decades in boardrooms all over the corporate world.
 

BaalsTears

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You watch/listen to Alex Jones don't you?

We have nothing to worry about. We just scored 20% of your oil imports and that will jump to 40% in 2012 not to mention the massive amounts of electricity exports that is increasing nearly two fold as well.

Happy Halloween!

Do you want to be treated as a serious person by me?
 

darkbeaver

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You watch/listen to Alex Jones don't you?

We have nothing to worry about. We just scored 20% of your oil imports and that will jump to 40% in 2012 not to mention the massive amounts of electricity exports that is increasing nearly two fold as well.

Happy Halloween!

We wern't supposed to mention that until they had exhausted all their aircraft in the Great Africom Democrazy Crusade.
 
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