come on durry, let's get this all straightened out, or are you afraid of being made a fool?
Tea Party Group Protests American Muslim Relief Group Fundraiser
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come on durry, let's get this all straightened out, or are you afraid of being made a fool?
There are a number of problems with this discussion. First the turn the other cheek thing
is right. Jesus also took the position that if someone did not want to become a follower
that was up to them. Stoning and other problems of the day were dealt with I agree. But
he also said slaves obey your masters, therefore did he advocate slavery? No he did not,
so the book has some flaws.
There are some other funny things here, how many people realize that Jesus is the
number two prophet in the Muslim Faith. Yes the Muslims recognize Christ as part of the
faith. In the on line clips I saw people making anti Islamic Statements while the Muslim
faith recognizes the existence and spiritual essence of Christ. As I said previously these
people are simply ignorant, and no amount of education will provide a different outcome.
These people a verbal bullies who have no regard for the facts or the history of the Middle
East or even the modern history of Christianity itself.
If the Tea Party were to gain control of America, the place would be a nut house in no time.
These people are a protest movement not a political party, and their view to operations of
government are not realistic. The Reform Party was a Movement, not a political party. The
movement floundered around to over a decade until the found an avenue to direct some of
their belief system. They took over the Conservative Party of Canada, and within no time at
all the these same people abandoned many of the main themes they had got elected vowing
to change. Now they are for the most part mainstream conservatives, who are still not fully
trusted by the general public. If the extremist Tea Party were to become government they
would then adopt the conservative agenda or they would attempt to implement a wacky
off the wall agenda that would ensure the United States became a backwater forever.
In short there is no defence socially, or from a religious standpoint for those who behaved
disgracefully against their fellow citizens.
The only thing I am thankful for is that I was not born a citizen of the United States. It is sad
to see the land of the free, turning into the land of the fearful, and hateful.
is right. Jesus also took the position that if someone did not want to become a follower
that was up to them. Stoning and other problems of the day were dealt with I agree. But
he also said slaves obey your masters, therefore did he advocate slavery? No he did not,
so the book has some flaws.
There are some other funny things here, how many people realize that Jesus is the
number two prophet in the Muslim Faith. Yes the Muslims recognize Christ as part of the
faith. In the on line clips I saw people making anti Islamic Statements while the Muslim
faith recognizes the existence and spiritual essence of Christ. As I said previously these
people are simply ignorant, and no amount of education will provide a different outcome.
These people a verbal bullies who have no regard for the facts or the history of the Middle
East or even the modern history of Christianity itself.
If the Tea Party were to gain control of America, the place would be a nut house in no time.
These people are a protest movement not a political party, and their view to operations of
government are not realistic. The Reform Party was a Movement, not a political party. The
movement floundered around to over a decade until the found an avenue to direct some of
their belief system. They took over the Conservative Party of Canada, and within no time at
all the these same people abandoned many of the main themes they had got elected vowing
to change. Now they are for the most part mainstream conservatives, who are still not fully
trusted by the general public. If the extremist Tea Party were to become government they
would then adopt the conservative agenda or they would attempt to implement a wacky
off the wall agenda that would ensure the United States became a backwater forever.
In short there is no defence socially, or from a religious standpoint for those who behaved
disgracefully against their fellow citizens.
The only thing I am thankful for is that I was not born a citizen of the United States. It is sad
to see the land of the free, turning into the land of the fearful, and hateful.
"Let he who has not sinned cast the first stone......."
The New Testament over rules and out modes the Old.
And is the foundation of Christianity.....the Old Testament is history.......
With some exceptions, you can't really say what is and what isn't good Christian behaviour or proper Christian beliefs. You can if you're Christian, of course, and you probably should, but you need to realize that this kind of argument won't hold water with non-Christians as you're biased towards your own interpretation. Plain and simple, Christian doctrine is disputed. In the past, people had no problem believing certain barbaric and hateful practices were acceptable. The best you can argue is that you have since progressed more towards the truth. Kinda like the Catholic Church, which occasionally revises its doctrine saying "OK, this time, it's infallible."
I've always wondered why Jesus didn't cast the first stone.
I've always wondered why Jesus didn't cast the first stone.
As long as he doesn't start throwing rocks now, make it hard to hide from eh?
Everyone twists the truth even the non believers
Everyone twists the truth even the non believers
I've yet to hear of a desirable terrorist.
Looking on the bright side, the burger will be all beef and not contain pork scraps...........;-)........could have some filler. hoooonose
Bullsh it!! Some people act like they're stoned most of the time. Check out Charlie Sheen............Geo. Bush.
Christian countries do wrist slap though. Canada is famous for that. Has everyone really scared.
Corduroy;1 I've always wondered why Jesus didn't cast the first stone.[/QUOTE said:
You are agreeing with what I said, people pick and choose what part of the Bible to believe..
I know very well by now that you enjoy red herrings and strawmen, yes that's abundantly clear.
If you prefer irrelevant conclusions and misrepresenting your adversary, what other form(s) of logical fallacy would you find acceptable to frame the debate in your favour?
Muslims aren't mute, they have a voice. There are plenty of websites that address Islamic spiritual issues. Drop by and see what they're saying. I've never heard anyone say "all Muslims" anything, either. Not anyone worth taking seriously anyway.
Not at all. Any verses that are in conflict, the chronologically later verse stands. There are plenty of parts of the Koran that are ignored.
Yes, I guess your right, Canada does not kill it's citizenry, so I agree with you that we are NOT a good christian country.
We gotta change that, uummmmm, I'm all for the Trap Door and Rope technique myself !!!
Sshheeee,,, some dumbo or what ???
Yeah, and Abraham and Noah and Moses and John the baptist.....all Muslims too. Isa of Islam bears no resemblance to Christ of the bible. I've even heard some go so far as to say Jesus was a Palestinian. lol. If you fall for that, you have no business accusing anyone of needing education.
You mean like in Wisconsin?
Really? Try being a Christian in Pakistan, or Egypt, or Indonesia, or Iraq, or PA, or Nigeria, or Northern Suden, or.........
Those places will give you a far more authentic sample of the taste of hate and fear.
I tend to agree with you about the 'not anyone worth taking seriously', however, the people who think all Muslims seem to be on a modern day crusade to destroy Christianity are, apparently, quite numerous and vocal.
Finger pointing does not excuse the behaviour of the teabaggers. It may be worse in other places but in the face of the basic tenets the US is based on, their behaviour is appalling. Those other countries are not based on freedom of speech or religion.
Are you made of straw?
Many many months ago in another thread I asked for a "for instance" of this appaling behaviour, so that I could expose the Tea Party to my friends. I received no response. Might you be able to oblige me?
Did you not watch the video in the OP or the various other videos that have been shown here over the last 6 months?
Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeper
Yes, those are true statements, but why is it that all major terrorist acts have been done by radical Muslims. Why do some think it wrong that we check what they are teaching our children (most are American or Canadian citizens) in their Mosques or schools.
Congressman Peter King decision to hold hearings into what he calls the “radicalization of the American Muslim community and homegrown terrorism” is, in my judgment, a sensible act on his part which should be supported by the American public. His decision is opposed, understandably, by some leaders of the American Muslim community. What do they want to hide.
I Support Hearings on Muslim Radicalization
Fact: the majority of those of the muslim faith are peace loving and ar not terrorists......
Also a fact: the 9/11 conspirators and the majority of terrorist acts and blowing up of civilians in the past 25 years have been commited by muslims.
Also a fact: the 9/11 conspirators and the majority of terrorist acts and blowing up of civilians in the past 25 years have been commited by muslims.
Yes, those are true statements, but why is it that all major terrorist acts have been done by radical Muslims. Why do some think it wrong that we check what they are teaching our children (most are American or Canadian citizens) in their Mosques or schools.
Congressman Peter King decision to hold hearings into what he calls the “radicalization of the American Muslim community and homegrown terrorism” is, in my judgment, a sensible act on his part which should be supported by the American public. His decision is opposed, understandably, by some leaders of the American Muslim community. What do they want to hide.
I Support Hearings on Muslim Radicalization
We say that most of the Muslims are peace loving, but since you see them do very little to fight radicalization among their own, my guess is that although they do not participate in radical behavior, I suspect that many are secretly Islamist supporters. My guess is that as soon as they see an opportunity to adopt a Muslim behavior like Sharia law, they would almost all support it.
When Sharia law was being discussed in Ontario for instance, very very Few Muslims objected to having it adopted as a legal way for Muslims to be judged by.
Hence, Muslims do not want the western way of life, they want the Muslim way of life and they will support it if they see they have a chance of obtaining it and they will cause damage to the west if they feel they can succeed and get things there way.
When Sharia law was being discussed in Ontario for instance, very very Few Muslims objected to having it adopted as a legal way for Muslims to be judged by.
Hence, Muslims do not want the western way of life, they want the Muslim way of life and they will support it if they see they have a chance of obtaining it and they will cause damage to the west if they feel they can succeed and get things there way.
How many Muslims in Ontario have taken on Canadian apathy and let rumblings of Sharia Law go in one ear and out the other?