If that is how you see it. To bad you also live in one controlled by corporations, your no different.
Wisconsin Republicans - "No Room For Compromise"
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The Egyptians were controlled by a brutal oppressive dictator, who used torture and murder to control the people through fear. Yet they rose up and overthrew their overlord..
To overthrow the neo-cons and their corporate backers, all we have to do is figure out that their agenda conflicts with our interests and vote selfishly.
To overthrow the neo-cons and their corporate backers, all we have to do is figure out that their agenda conflicts with our interests and vote selfishly.
Unsustainable. The state is broke. It is not too difficult.
In addition, clearly politics has played a role. Unions have blindly thrown their weight and money behind Democrats. Now they are paying a price for that blind support.
In addition, clearly politics has played a role. Unions have blindly thrown their weight and money behind Democrats. Now they are paying a price for that blind support.
There are revolts in Iraq and Bahrain and last I check Iraq is still a democracy and Bahrain is a wealthy country.
These revolts are special; these are not old fat men in white robes or taliban with scarves concealing their identity, these revolters are all under 50 and complaining about inequality of wealth.
They need these protests (again) in Eastern Europe and I hope they come to Canada and the United States. We live in a bull**** country when a starter home in the city is $800,000 and most of us will never make more than $60,000 a year; if you are even so lucky to have a job.
These revolts are special; these are not old fat men in white robes or taliban with scarves concealing their identity, these revolters are all under 50 and complaining about inequality of wealth.
They need these protests (again) in Eastern Europe and I hope they come to Canada and the United States. We live in a bull**** country when a starter home in the city is $800,000 and most of us will never make more than $60,000 a year; if you are even so lucky to have a job.
How did you vote in the last provincial/federal election?
Looks like Canadians haven't been screwed enough. We want more!
Today's News:
Stephen Harper’s Conservatives are 16 points ahead of Michael Ignatieff’s Liberals, according to a new poll – a huge lead that puts the Tories close to winning majority government and leaves some Grits reeling.
With Harper 16 points up in poll, do Liberals need ‘a head transplant’? - The Globe and Mail
I think that was the norm before the housing bust. Trying to sell a house for 800K today would be a near impossibility IMO. At least in Massachusetts where I live. Housing prices were so over inflated because banks made loans so easy to get. So people were buying these 600K and 800K houses when the REAL worth was 300K or 500K.
Now when they lose these houses they are stripping them bare of copper and fixtures to pay for their first month rent.
Our housing bubble is not the same and ours hasn't been popped yet. I remember in the 1990s; if you drove a half hour away, you could get a brand new home for $70,000 and now the same homes are being sold for a million plus.
Especially in the Greater Vancouver Region; if the bubble popped tommorrow, than most lots and homes would return to their real value between $60,000 and $150,000... we are talking about a five bedroom 1500-2500 SQF homes; not a McMansion or anything.
Not that a bubble bust would benefit everyone. There are people out there financing an education or a business through the inflated value of their homes.
I was at a conference and I met a fellow from Canada. He said the only difference between the US and Canada is that their housing bubble hasn't popped yet. He said it was bound to pop... it just hasn't... but it will.
I hope it does not. It isn't fun.
It will be bad here. As stated; much like in the states, people had financed things through the value of their homes and the economy would implode (much like the subprime mortage crisis) as a result. The accountants and lawyers wouldn't be affected; just the people working for small businesses (under 100 employees) whose owners have the thing financed the thing through their home.
The people voted, the will of the majority carried the day, democracy in action. Or is it? Essentially all that's changed is Mubarac.
What does all this Arab talk have to do with Wisconsin? Has the left hijacked us again.
This is all something that should have been brought under control years ago, we or most of us were blind to what was happening. All the members of Congress and Senate have a vested interest in any industry/profession that has a union that financially supported them. The unions will eventually win in Wisconsin as well as the nation.
This is all something that should have been brought under control years ago, we or most of us were blind to what was happening. All the members of Congress and Senate have a vested interest in any industry/profession that has a union that financially supported them. The unions will eventually win in Wisconsin as well as the nation.
Private sector unions in America are in their death throes. Public sector unions are trying to save themselves. If they succeed, taxes will go up. If taxes go up jobs will be lost and capital will flee. Capital can go anywhere in the world it wants now. That's the result of globalization.
Here in Massachusetts that is exactly what goes on. Our Public Sector Unions are so deeply entrenched and organized that the only way to feather their nest is to raise taxes. So that is what our Democrat controled state government does... they raise taxes over and over. We have but a handful of Republican State Legislators that matter not when it comes to a vote.
We had a state worker walk away with $450K last week in unpaid sick and vacation time. Four Hundred and Fifty Thousand Dollars... a State Worker! There was an uproar and he simply shrugged and said...
"It is owed to me... I deserve it."
Yet somehow Public Union Employees are sacrificing?
Cut from that article....
This week it's Massachusetts Port Authority chief Thomas Kinton, who has announced his plans to retire in June after 35 years with the state agency. The 59-year-old's $295,000 salary makes him eligible for a $200,000 pension. Yet the real kicker is that he will also walk away with nearly a half million dollars in pay for unused sick days.
No question about it, American labor has to learn to live on less it we hope to be competitive again in this world. Private sector unions will soon feel the effect of what they helped cause, in fact they have already.(auto companies, appliance manufactures etc.) Jobs went south. Unions have outlived there usefulness and are destroying states economies.
This thread has been some of the funniest stuff I have seen in a long time here.
So you have to live on less to compete eh?
In southern China they make 75 cents an hour.....have fun trying to compete.:lol:
It's no coincidence that as unions have vanished so to has the equality among workers income....the gap between rich and poor rises and the middle class shrinks as it becomes less organised.
A class war began in the 80's and the mega rich sat and watched with glee.
Divide and yee shall conquer.
Do exceptions prove rules? How many civil servants walk away with that sort of package?
If you want to talk about outrageous severance packages, what standard for CEO's of large corporations.
McCain Economic Adviser Carly Fiorina's Golden Parachute - Political Radar
Has that happened yet? Or do CEO's still get multi-million dollar payouts???
Is your rage against everyone who gets outrageous packages or just civil servants...
Just civil servants. That is our money that is taken for the good? of the country or city. If a civil servant gets 45000 payout for vacation and sick time obviously some other civil servant is not protecting the taxpayers interests, only his own. What companies do with their own money is between them and their shareholders. It has zero effect on anyone else. If you don't like how a company operates you do not have to deal with them. Not so with governments.
Nonsense! Canada has higher taxes than the US but we still have jobs here. In fact, our economy is stronger than the American's. It is a ridiculous oversimplification to draw a straight line between taxes and job loss.
Wow, what a stupid comment that is.
A comapany that shuts down a factory in a small town and moves the jobs to china has no effect on anyone?
The CEO will get a huge bonus and the ones fortunate enough to have shares will get dividens, but the town is ruined.
But hell, damn those overpaid firefighters who get a pension.:roll:
What reason would there be to move a company to China....taxes? regulations? unions? naaah:roll:;-)