Wisconsin Republicans - "No Room For Compromise"
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They put up signs? Ones in English or ones at Fed places that are bi-lingual?
I know and they don't represent contracted asphalt rakers do they?
lol, pwned again. Anyway, last post as we've gone way off topic, and way off sanity.
Nova Scotia Highway Workers’ Union welcomes asphalt initiative < Highways, Nova Scotia | CUPE
Oh, I didn't realize that all asphalt rakers are contracted through private companies. I guess they must lend them trucks and equipment from our local DOT.
@irionsides: I am not sure it would lead to another civil war, but I can see that if the United States requires all our countries to stop outsourcing jobs to third world countries, they would starve. Then again by outsourcing, we have lost our electrical/mechanical assemblers or just assemblers who made up the majority of our lower income work force. If would be in our best interest to do that, there it used to be a bridge to higher paying jobs. Everyone cannot be a higher paid engineer, scientist etc. Most of these problems are our fault for not realizing the long term consequences that outsourcing would do to us. Now we have to adjust and hopefully unrest will be held to a minimum, the citizens have to learn that what ever they want they will have to work for, and that is all they are entitled to. We were spoiled."""
Name a worker who ever wanted their jobs outsourced. You seem to be saying the workers wanted this........"our fault, etc. etc."
The corporations knew full well what was going to happen when jobs got outsourced, and the govts. (US/Can.) allowed them to do it regardless..............free trade. Yup, great stuff.
Not entirely the fault of corporations, to be fair. I can think of at least two unions that were warned they were being paid as much as possible given economic conditions, and that if they went on strike, there would be layoffs, or, the plant would close. They went on strike, and the plant closed and moved to Mexico.
This is not to say that the plant wouldn't have closed anyway. We'll never know. It all happened kind of fast for there to have been no pre-planning, so I would bet a move was in the works at least a year previous.
One thing is for sure, and that is they ain't coming back..........Ningún señor; esto es todo que ella escribió.
Name a worker who ever wanted their jobs outsourced. You seem to be saying the workers wanted this........"our fault, etc. etc."
The corporations knew full well what was going to happen when jobs got outsourced, and the govts. (US/Can.) allowed them to do it regardless..............free trade. Yup, great stuff.
Not entirely the fault of corporations, to be fair. I can think of at least two unions that were warned they were being paid as much as possible given economic conditions, and that if they went on strike, there would be layoffs, or, the plant would close. They went on strike, and the plant closed and moved to Mexico.
This is not to say that the plant wouldn't have closed anyway. We'll never know. It all happened kind of fast for there to have been no pre-planning, so I would bet a move was in the works at least a year previous.
One thing is for sure, and that is they ain't coming back..........Ningún señor; esto es todo que ella escribió.
Feb 4, 2011 02:41 PM
HALIFAX – The Nova Scotia Highway Workers’ Union is welcoming the provincial government’s initiative to bring some of the province’s asphalt and chip seal work in house.
CUPE Local 1867 president Gareth Drinnan says, “Our union has been telling previous governments for years that our members can do quality work at a reasonable cost. We are glad to see the current government is interested in thinking outside of the box a little, especially if it will mean cost savings for taxpayers.
“Nova Scotia highway workers and the Department of Transportation are more than capable of getting this work done and saving money in the process. In fact, we have slowly been bringing many aspects of our work back in house with good success,” says Drinnan.
CUPE Nova Scotia president Danny Cavanagh, meanwhile, says, “We are a little disappointed, but not surprised, at the reaction from the Road Builders Association who don’t seem to be too interested in saving taxpayers money."
“Twenty years ago the province had its own asphalt plant, which produced a world class product. Previous governments chose to contract out that work and Nova Scotians should be asking themselves if the quality of our roads has gotten any better since that happened,” says Cavanagh.
In house? You mean not contracted to private? Yeah I guess they have been standing around doing nothing while it was all tendered out privately.
On their 17 days back on highways pothole partrol how many do you think they've filled this winter so far?
Why would CUPE workers be cheaper if unions are the root of all things expensive?
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I'm not sure but you seem to be confused. CUPE doesn't just represent federal workers. Any public employee (provincial or municipal) could be a member of CUPE.
Thank you.
Ideas spread. America is in tumult. The tumultuous ideas will spread north. They will be refined and Canadianized. But they will spread. You can't keep a good man down. Hip, hip hooray for Canadian Conservatism!
At least the peanut farmer is enjoying his retirement and running around the world thinking he is accomplishing something.
The Federal Reserve Awareness Project?????
If you're pressed for time, start watching at the 3-minute mark. Alan Grayson questions Elizabeth Coleman, Inspector General of the Federal Reserve about $9 TRILLION in secret Fed bailouts, and exactly who is accounting for all that cash.
http://dailybail.com:80/home/there-are-no-words-to-describe-the-following-part-ii.html
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I wonder what the wisconsin medical society will do to these doctors......
YouTube - Wis Doctor BUSTED Handing Out Fraudulent Excuses!!
YouTube - Wis Doctor BUSTED Handing Out Fraudulent Excuses!!
A poll commissioned by labor groups and conducted Feb. 13-14 found opposition to Gov. Scott Walker's proposal to strip most collective bargaining rights from public employees.
The poll, conducted by Forward Strategies, questioned 400 voters in each of seven state senate districts that covered the Fox Valley, central and western Wisconsin but not the metropolitan Milwaukee area.
The survey found:
-- On a question about "eliminating the rights of workers to bargain over health care, retirement and workplace rules," respondents opposed the idea by margins of nine to 24 percentage points over those who favored the idea.
-- Voters in all seven districts strongly preferred that Gov. Scott Walker and the Legislature "negotiate for a solution that is fair to both taxpayers and public employees."
-- By margins of three to 17 percentage points, respondents favored requiring public employees to pay "5% toward their pensions and 12% toward their health insurance."
Labor poll shows reservations about removing bargaining rights - JSOnline
The poll, conducted by Forward Strategies, questioned 400 voters in each of seven state senate districts that covered the Fox Valley, central and western Wisconsin but not the metropolitan Milwaukee area.
The survey found:
-- On a question about "eliminating the rights of workers to bargain over health care, retirement and workplace rules," respondents opposed the idea by margins of nine to 24 percentage points over those who favored the idea.
-- Voters in all seven districts strongly preferred that Gov. Scott Walker and the Legislature "negotiate for a solution that is fair to both taxpayers and public employees."
-- By margins of three to 17 percentage points, respondents favored requiring public employees to pay "5% toward their pensions and 12% toward their health insurance."
Labor poll shows reservations about removing bargaining rights - JSOnline
No one wanted to outsource jobs except corporations wanting to save money at our expense. They forgot that without jobs, we cannot buy their products. Third world countries have to learn to make it on their own. yes there will be problems, but it is their problem to solve. Every country almost has a commodity that can be traded on the world market, if not it might be time for migrations to places that have jobs. In the long run anti immigration people will get used to it. Yes it will change your country, but without change countries die.
Y la señora thefat ha cantado.
Those doctors/health care practitioners are going to be ripped limb from limb by trial attorneys. Quite literally, their careers will be destroyed in order to teach others a cautionary lesson. There's blood in the water and money to be made from doctors who stuck out their necks foolishly.
False Claims Act - Taxpayers Against Fraud - QUI TAM
qui tam attorneys - Tracy Steckling - Whistleblower Legal Center - qui tam attorney, medicaid fraud
The protests in Madison, Wisconsin and in other states by government-employee unions are going to represent the beginning of the end of labor unions in America. Because now that the people of Wisconsin are getting wind of what they really are paying some of these workers, they are going to say enough is enough.
If the unions had kept quiet and accepted some small cuts, their greed would not have been exposed. But now it is exposed. And when a hard-working citizen making $40,000 a year in the private sector in Wisconsin sees a unionized public school teacher in a failed system in Milwaukee making just over $100,000 a year average for pay, benefit and pension (according to recent figures from the MacIver Institute), that citizen is going to say enough is enough.
And when that citizen then realizes that that teacher’s pay is for about 1,300 hours of work per year (summers off, vacations throughout the year, 7-hour workdays, etc.) versus 2,000 hours for the private-sector worker, the citizen is going to rise up and turn on the unions. Never mind early retirement and lifetime tenure, two other union “benefits” that cannot be measured in direct dollar terms.
In Massachusetts, unionized toll collectors on the state Turnpike make $75,000 a year and up, plus full benefits, pension and early retirement, for what should be a $25,000-a-year cashier job. Today the three richest per-capita counties in America are right around Washington, DC. The people who live in those counties are largely unionized federal employees. See the picture? While millions across America struggle, are highly taxed and are losing their jobs and homes.
http://www.redstate.com/nikitas3/2011/02/22/labor-unions-are-on-the-way-out/
Paradoxical quote of the day from Ben Stein:
"Fathom the odd hypocrisy that the government wants every citizen to prove they are insured, but people don't have to prove they are citizens".
If the unions had kept quiet and accepted some small cuts, their greed would not have been exposed. But now it is exposed. And when a hard-working citizen making $40,000 a year in the private sector in Wisconsin sees a unionized public school teacher in a failed system in Milwaukee making just over $100,000 a year average for pay, benefit and pension (according to recent figures from the MacIver Institute), that citizen is going to say enough is enough.
And when that citizen then realizes that that teacher’s pay is for about 1,300 hours of work per year (summers off, vacations throughout the year, 7-hour workdays, etc.) versus 2,000 hours for the private-sector worker, the citizen is going to rise up and turn on the unions. Never mind early retirement and lifetime tenure, two other union “benefits” that cannot be measured in direct dollar terms.
In Massachusetts, unionized toll collectors on the state Turnpike make $75,000 a year and up, plus full benefits, pension and early retirement, for what should be a $25,000-a-year cashier job. Today the three richest per-capita counties in America are right around Washington, DC. The people who live in those counties are largely unionized federal employees. See the picture? While millions across America struggle, are highly taxed and are losing their jobs and homes.
http://www.redstate.com/nikitas3/2011/02/22/labor-unions-are-on-the-way-out/
Paradoxical quote of the day from Ben Stein:
"Fathom the odd hypocrisy that the government wants every citizen to prove they are insured, but people don't have to prove they are citizens".