If the entire middle east were nuked you'd still have 960 Million Muslims to deal with.
Good luck with that Israel thing.....
Good luck with that Israel thing.....
Enough farting around on Iran & Nukes
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Why use a screwdriver, when you have a sledgehammer? Both can take apart a wrist watch.
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Well it all depends on what you want done with that watch. You either try to fix it and after repeated trying and spending inordinate amounts of time you have to make that choice. Stop trying to fix something that refuses to be fixed, everything about the watch is out of sync with each working part. So then you get up from the chair, grab the hammer and Fuk the watch.
You can only try to fix something so often that eventually you realize it is time for that watch to get the old heave ho.
Let us review: Iran has a government that the US doesn't like so they get rid of it and replace it with a psychopathic tyrant, the Shah. People get get fed up with his tyranny, boot his ass out of the country and replace it with a bunch of religious fundamentalist who don't get along with the US. Now the US is spoiling for any excuse to take them out and replace them with another puppet government which will be, if history serves any purpose, in all probability, just as or more tyrannical as the present regime. And there are those on here who think that is a good idea.
IS THERE ANY HOPE FOR HUMANITY OR ARE WE DESTINED TO ANNIHILATE OURSELVES WITH OUR OWN STUPIDITY?
IS THERE ANY HOPE FOR HUMANITY OR ARE WE DESTINED TO ANNIHILATE OURSELVES WITH OUR OWN STUPIDITY?
If you don't want to be hassled by the American don't nationalize your oil, gas, electricity, minerals, water, and deny access for pipelines, trans Asian highways, or put satelites in space to make moolah from telecomm and internet across south Asia.
Other than that I think they'd get along just fine.
It is bad for the people of nations to control their own wealth. It's bad. Very bad and wrong. For shame.
Other than that I think they'd get along just fine.
It is bad for the people of nations to control their own wealth. It's bad. Very bad and wrong. For shame.
Cliffy - I always note your signature and how it relates to Spirituality - Would that 2000 years also apply to Philosophers as well?????? And I am referring to 2500 years ago to the present say 1500 time frame. Just the major ones.
Reading these posts from time to time, I think it is rather naive to say the least, to believe that a preemptive attack on Iran could be contained and not lead to a broader conflict. It is a dangerous delusion. Thankfully those on these forums doing the speculating are basement generals!
Hey! I'm the 3rd floor loft high above Moccasin Flats and no general no but I'm wearing my Berkut Ushanka. Warmest damn hat I've ever owned.
It's just like this one.
It's just like this one.
If I understood the question, I might be able to answer it. I also fail to see what it might have to do with the topic at hand.
I thought deer season was over.Hey! I'm the 3rd floor loft high above Moccasin Flats and no general no but I'm wearing my Berkut Ushanka. Warmest damn hat I've ever owned.
It's just like this one.
The little man in the canoe needs a paddle.
Old Soviet posters...
USA and allies milking blood and oil from Middle East. The continent is Middle East, and there is written “Here again blood and oil is being poured”.
“Is this a Freedom?”
''On December 18, a day before the truce officially expired, Hamas declared the end of the cease-fire.[85] More than 20 rockets were launched from Gaza into southern Israel on that day.[86]
On December 19, Hamas refused to enter talks to renew the six-month truce and Hamas spokesman announced that it would not extend the cease-fire.[87][88] Palestinian sources said that Hamas wanted to renew the truce, but only on improved terms – a complete opening of the border crossings with Israel''
and because,
''Gaza’s economy has been destroyed since then, under siege from Israel which only allows the bare minimum of humanitarian assistance to enter in a bid to force an end to rocket attacks. Latest UN figures showed that unemployment has risen to 49 per cent and that half of Gaza City’s residents receive water only once a week for a few hours. Homes are also without electricity for up to 16 hours a day.
“The factions’ duty after the calm expires is to protect the people, defend the Palestinian people and confront any aggression,” said Mr Barhoum. “The Zionist enemy bears the responsibility for the end of calm.”
From a Times article in your link/
On December 19, Hamas refused to enter talks to renew the six-month truce and Hamas spokesman announced that it would not extend the cease-fire.[87][88] Palestinian sources said that Hamas wanted to renew the truce, but only on improved terms – a complete opening of the border crossings with Israel''
and because,
''Gaza’s economy has been destroyed since then, under siege from Israel which only allows the bare minimum of humanitarian assistance to enter in a bid to force an end to rocket attacks. Latest UN figures showed that unemployment has risen to 49 per cent and that half of Gaza City’s residents receive water only once a week for a few hours. Homes are also without electricity for up to 16 hours a day.
“The factions’ duty after the calm expires is to protect the people, defend the Palestinian people and confront any aggression,” said Mr Barhoum. “The Zionist enemy bears the responsibility for the end of calm.”
From a Times article in your link/
Yes Cliffy, Lets review: The Shah was king of Iran, descendant of a great dynasty that stretched back one entire generation. His father had seized power in 1921 coup, booted out the British and Russian forces occupying the country and declared himself "the Shah of Iran" in 1925. Unfortunately for the senior Shah, the British and Russians came back in 1941, after accusations that the Shah was a Nazi sympathizer. The old Shah was replaced by his son, Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi. No mention of the U.S. up to this point, what happens after that is not important till around 1953 when the U.S. persuaded Iran to drop the idea of nationalizing their oil fields. England and Western Europe were ecstatically happy about this arrangement as was Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi. Point being if you Nationalize something, don't just do it for a specific class or group of people.
Under the leadership of the nationalist movement of Dr. Mohammed Mosaddeq, the Iranian parliament unanimously voted to nationalize the oil industry – thus shutting out the immensely profitable Anglo-Iranian Oil Company, which was a pillar of Britain's economy and provided it political clout in the region. Back then, you didn't want to get Great Briton and her children into a sissy fit. The U.S. only became involved at their request.
By the way, the Iranian people were never to share in the oil wealth.
I doubt 25% of the oil revenue would have went for social programs like it does since being increased in 2006 from 15% if BP were there today.