Khadr - Pleads Guilty to Terror Charges

earth_as_one

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He was a child soldier.

Too bad so many people have difficulty in understanding such a simple concept. :-(

People have trouble thinking for themselves. If the MSM told them Khadr was a child soldier and should have been rehabilitated, they'd compliantly change their opinion. If they were then told he is evil and should be burned at the stake, they'd change their opinion back. Their outrage is highly malleable.

What this story is really about IMO is how we should deal with child soldiers, including those who have committed heinous crimes which include rape, murder, killing their own parents and siblings....
http://www.childsoldiersglobalreport.org/files/country_pdfs/FINAL_2008_Global_Report.pdf.
 

JLM

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I wonder how Afghan society views a 15 year old? Seeing how the events occurred in Afghanistan, care to let that society make the determination?

I think Afghanistan should make the decision about the status of 15 year old children - those born and raised in Afghanistan- those born and raised in Canada no bloody way. :roll:
 

captain morgan

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Afghanistan is governed by the rule of law? I thought because it isn't is the reason why we're there.



I take it that your personal approval is necessary prior to a nation's laws being legitimate?

Does Canada allow 15 year olds into the military? If it did, do you think other countries would say that that is recruiting child soldiers? There is a reason why we don't.


Certain militant groups allow 12 year olds to contribute to their efforts... Does that make Canada's policy wrong?
 

Retired_Can_Soldier

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Does Canada allow 15 year olds into the military? If it did, do you think other countries would say that that is recruiting child soldiers? There is a reason why we don't.

Technically you're wrong. I believe you can join Army/Air Force/Naval Cadets at the age of 12 or 13 and at 16 you can become a reservist soldier. You might even be able to join cadets at a younger age, but I'm not positive. As for the reserves you can see action by 18. Training for a cadet includes small arms training, and reserves is far more in depth (including heavy weapons).
 

wulfie68

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Technically you're wrong. I believe you can join Army/Air Force/Naval Cadets at the age of 12 or 13 and at 16 you can become a reservist soldier. You might even be able to join cadets at a younger age, but I'm not positive. As for the reserves you can see action by 18. Training for a cadet includes small arms training, and reserves is far more in depth (including heavy weapons).

Actually you're wrong. Although the cadet programs do allow 12& 13 yr olds (13 to go to summer camp courses), and they have strong ties to the military, they are a civilian organization, like the Royal Canadian Legion. This impression can be encouraged by the facts that cadet officers do hold commissions from the Queen (after they attend their Basic Officers Course), cadet instructors at summer camps (who have to be at least 16 yrs old) become reservists, and one of the stated aims of the movement is to promote interest in the Canadian Forces (as well as providing citizenship & leadership training and promoting physical fitness, among other things)... but that doesn't change the fact that these kids are civilians, not soldiers.
 

Retired_Can_Soldier

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Actually you're wrong. Although the cadet programs do allow 12& 13 yr olds (13 to go to summer camp courses), and they have strong ties to the military, they are a civilian organization, like the Royal Canadian Legion. This impression can be encouraged by the facts that cadet officers do hold commissions from the Queen (after they attend their Basic Officers Course), cadet instructors at summer camps (who have to be at least 16 yrs old) become reservists, and one of the stated aims of the movement is to promote interest in the Canadian Forces (as well as providing citizenship & leadership training and promoting physical fitness, among other things)... but that doesn't change the fact that these kids are civilians, not soldiers.

Funny, when I instructed at the recruit school I sat beside some of these civilians and addressed them by rank. The may have oversight by civilians, but they bear the code of arms and rank structure of the Canadian Military. Quite frankly you're splitting hairs.