My take on the powerful forces which threaten to topple Obama.
- Thread starter commonsense
- Start date
Hated is the flip side of love. In order to hate something you must love it. Hate requires the same sort of passion. To say one hates something that one does not know is just plain silly. Behind all anger is fear and most people fear what they don't know. That is basic human psychology. Sometimes I think people get all worked up into a rage because their lives are so boring.
Mob mentality, though, is another story.
Mob mentality, though, is another story.
Got a link? You sure you're not thinking of the Bamster.
Your post is psychobabble.
Nope, it's why I continually get rejection slips from publishers.:-( No seamy sex and gratuitous violence.
there ya go.:sad8:
Interesting observation. But a bit short sighted.
As I have written numerous times on this forum, in politics victory is a matter of choice. All the hate and lies directed at him by the far right will mean nothing unless and until it is countered by Obama's political party and other supporters.
So far we have seen many anti-Obama rallies and it is only too clear that this hate is manufactured by right wing financial interests.
But where are the pro Obama rallies? When will the Democrats have rallies thanking him for creating over 4 million jobs, for ending the recession, for reducing the military role in Iraq, for rebuilding the infrastructure, and for at least trying to fix the mess created by Bush??? I don't know about anyone else, but I haven't seen any at all.
Why the silence and passivity yet again? As with the Clinton years, as successful as they were, the right wing spewed the same amount of hate. Yet, the Dimmocrats stupidly remained in silence and allowed the hate to carry over into a 'win' in 2000. Silence in the face of hate does not bring about wins. Why hasn't this party of passive nitwits learned its lesson?
As I have written numerous times on this forum, in politics victory is a matter of choice. All the hate and lies directed at him by the far right will mean nothing unless and until it is countered by Obama's political party and other supporters.
So far we have seen many anti-Obama rallies and it is only too clear that this hate is manufactured by right wing financial interests.
But where are the pro Obama rallies? When will the Democrats have rallies thanking him for creating over 4 million jobs, for ending the recession, for reducing the military role in Iraq, for rebuilding the infrastructure, and for at least trying to fix the mess created by Bush??? I don't know about anyone else, but I haven't seen any at all.
Why the silence and passivity yet again? As with the Clinton years, as successful as they were, the right wing spewed the same amount of hate. Yet, the Dimmocrats stupidly remained in silence and allowed the hate to carry over into a 'win' in 2000. Silence in the face of hate does not bring about wins. Why hasn't this party of passive nitwits learned its lesson?
Now here is confirmation of President Obama's real background. And it is all true, true and proven by a major journalistic source.
:lol::lol::lol::lol:
The Globe Has “Proof” Obama Is A Muslim
The Globe Has “Proof” Obama Is A Muslim coverawards.com
:lol::lol::lol::lol:
The Globe Has “Proof” Obama Is A Muslim
The Globe Has “Proof” Obama Is A Muslim coverawards.com
Sounds like a little HCP.
It sounds that way CDN
People have lost hope in Obama. It is clear. That is why nobody supports him.
Sucks being on the other side of the yellow tape eh?
Or they will be so wrapped up in their little gadgets to relly give a shzt about anything but themselves, that combined with being as dumb as a bag of hammers will bring on the end of freedon.
Obama and his crew are sideways with the Council on Foreign Relations as well as now appearing to have a huge disconnect with the common American. If he does get unseated it will be on part due to the CFR launching a effort to get him out. I do agree with Gopher. They are all just sitting on their hands watching. Why?
Have you considered that the Stimulus created jobs - cost 195 K per job
Have you considered that Obama care was not supported by the majority of the US population
Have you considered that Obama and advisers thought they had a mandate to change everything - when in reality the public was fed up with bush.
Obama stopped listening and his Obama care was filled with pork, same with the stimulus.
''People have lost hope in Obama. It is clear. That is why nobody supports him.''
Nobody but the 4.5 million who got jobs thanks to his agenda. But again, if the Dumbocrats fail to point that out while remaining silent about the millions of jobs lost under Bush, then a Republican win is to be expected.
Bush lost jobs - the cost to society is far worse.
Obama care was mandated in the 2008 Democratic party platform as I have previously reported on this forum several times before. Recall that it was specifically identified as Priority One by those attendees.
The public was indeed fed up with Bush.
True, there is pork in the Obama agenda. But not to the same degree as existed under Bush which went unchallenged by critics from both sides of the political aisle.
Nobody but the 4.5 million who got jobs thanks to his agenda. But again, if the Dumbocrats fail to point that out while remaining silent about the millions of jobs lost under Bush, then a Republican win is to be expected.
Goober; said:
Bush lost jobs - the cost to society is far worse.
Obama care was mandated in the 2008 Democratic party platform as I have previously reported on this forum several times before. Recall that it was specifically identified as Priority One by those attendees.
The public was indeed fed up with Bush.
True, there is pork in the Obama agenda. But not to the same degree as existed under Bush which went unchallenged by critics from both sides of the political aisle.
Then dig deeper - Obamacare - Gold plated pensions - uniun entitlements removed from any penalties - No caps for lawyers - Nancy Pelosi - No Diff between her and Newt G - Both hateful
Stmulus - Filled with more pork for Dem areas.
Lastly - Obama won because he promised change in Wash - it has not happened - more of the same old crap - and he mistakenly thought his win was an endorsement for change
As to election Platforms and promises - Reality did not set in - Look to Mass - Lost the kennedy seat - why -
Don't be such an ideologue
''26 months is an eternity in politics- hell 26 days is a long time''
True. But 26 months of unemployment is infinitely worse. The 4.5 million now employed thanks to Obama should provide the margin necessary for victory in the November elections. But it won't happen if the Dems fail to use this success as an issue.
"'pork''
No worse than under Reagan-Bush-Bush. This is something we discussed previously.
''promised change - this had not happened''
I'm with you there to some extent. He has not gone far enough in bringing about the changes promised in the 2008 Dem platform, especially with his watered down version of HCR.
''Mass lost Kennedy seat''
That was the stupidity -- and I mean utter STUPIDITY -- of local Democrats, not of Obama. Why the idiotic primadonna candidate they chose decided to go on vacation rather than campaign is the fault of Nancy Pelosi who is charge of the party. Obama had no role in that regard.
''ideologue''
That term is more suitable for you.
True. But 26 months of unemployment is infinitely worse. The 4.5 million now employed thanks to Obama should provide the margin necessary for victory in the November elections. But it won't happen if the Dems fail to use this success as an issue.
"'pork''
No worse than under Reagan-Bush-Bush. This is something we discussed previously.
''promised change - this had not happened''
I'm with you there to some extent. He has not gone far enough in bringing about the changes promised in the 2008 Dem platform, especially with his watered down version of HCR.
''Mass lost Kennedy seat''
That was the stupidity -- and I mean utter STUPIDITY -- of local Democrats, not of Obama. Why the idiotic primadonna candidate they chose decided to go on vacation rather than campaign is the fault of Nancy Pelosi who is charge of the party. Obama had no role in that regard.
''ideologue''
That term is more suitable for you.
And how would I be classed as an Ideologue. What type, what beliefs, what poitical bent????
The vast majority of the media in the USA has actively supported Mr. Obama and the Democrat party. They have made excuse after excuse for the failure of his policies, for the fact that he has indebted the USA for far more than his predecessors, that his policies have made unemployment worse, have led to massive corruption and that he is an abject failure as a leader.
Finally, even the ultra leftist liberal newspapers, such as the NY Times and the Washington Post are coming out and saying that this man is a disaster. He has done absolutely nothing except to blame G.W. Bush for everything.
He said that he would take a "bi-partisan approach" to governing. But, instead he has done nothing but attack the Republicans, denigrated them at every turn, refused to compromise on anything, and then to blame them for his failure to get most of his proposals through the US Senate.
The Democrats enjoy a 60-40 advantage in the U.S. Senate. They can vote down any filibuster, they can pass any legislation that they choose to pass, without a single Republican vote. So, why is it that bill after bill get bottled up in the Senate? It is because Democrats can not, and will not, come together and vote those bills through.
A leader actually works with both sides. Mr. Obama has refused adamantly to work with the Republicans at all. He has taken the approach that it is "My way or no way". That is NOT leadership, that is partisan politics of the worst sort.
The American people, as shown in poll after poll (from every source) are rejecting the policies of the Democrats. They are sick and tired of the totally ham fisted way that Mr. Obama and the Democrat leadership of the House and Senate have rammed through bills that have fundamentally changed how the US works, without even reading the bills in question.
The American people do not want Obama care. They do not want the US Government as the ONLY source for student loans. The do NOT want a totally and completely socialized government and society. Mr. Obama, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid have totally and completely misunderstood what the American people will accept.
The result will be a massive repudiation of the Democrats come the November election. I would not be at all surprised to see the Republicans take control of both the House and the Senate. They will then confront Mr. Obama with a stark choice.
He will either sign bills eliminating the "Health Care Reform", the "Financial Reform" and several other major bills, or he will have zero funding for most of the administrative agencies of government. They will simply cut off all funding for things such as the Department of Education, the Department of Health and Human Services, the White House, etc., until Mr. Obama agrees to sign the bills that eliminate all of the ultra socialistic programs that the American people simply do not want.
Keep in mind that the administration can not spend one cent, unless Congress authorizes that expenditure. So, Mr. Obama will be faces with a stark choice. Either he agrees to eliminate those hated programs, or he shuts down all non-essential aspects of the US Government. He will not be able to move funding from one agency to another, he will just have to furlough the employees, and shut down the offices.
You do not have a bi-partisan government by constantly belittling the other party, or by constantly blaming it for everything that is going wrong. You have bi-partisanship by compromising, working with the other party to get bills through that both sides can live with.
Mr. Obama and his leaders in the Congress chose to be a one party band. They rammed through proposal after proposal, without any Republican input at all. Now, they can reap the consequences of what they deliberately chose to do.
The American people do not like dictators. It is time that Mr. Obama learned that simple fact.
Finally, even the ultra leftist liberal newspapers, such as the NY Times and the Washington Post are coming out and saying that this man is a disaster. He has done absolutely nothing except to blame G.W. Bush for everything.
He said that he would take a "bi-partisan approach" to governing. But, instead he has done nothing but attack the Republicans, denigrated them at every turn, refused to compromise on anything, and then to blame them for his failure to get most of his proposals through the US Senate.
The Democrats enjoy a 60-40 advantage in the U.S. Senate. They can vote down any filibuster, they can pass any legislation that they choose to pass, without a single Republican vote. So, why is it that bill after bill get bottled up in the Senate? It is because Democrats can not, and will not, come together and vote those bills through.
A leader actually works with both sides. Mr. Obama has refused adamantly to work with the Republicans at all. He has taken the approach that it is "My way or no way". That is NOT leadership, that is partisan politics of the worst sort.
The American people, as shown in poll after poll (from every source) are rejecting the policies of the Democrats. They are sick and tired of the totally ham fisted way that Mr. Obama and the Democrat leadership of the House and Senate have rammed through bills that have fundamentally changed how the US works, without even reading the bills in question.
The American people do not want Obama care. They do not want the US Government as the ONLY source for student loans. The do NOT want a totally and completely socialized government and society. Mr. Obama, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid have totally and completely misunderstood what the American people will accept.
The result will be a massive repudiation of the Democrats come the November election. I would not be at all surprised to see the Republicans take control of both the House and the Senate. They will then confront Mr. Obama with a stark choice.
He will either sign bills eliminating the "Health Care Reform", the "Financial Reform" and several other major bills, or he will have zero funding for most of the administrative agencies of government. They will simply cut off all funding for things such as the Department of Education, the Department of Health and Human Services, the White House, etc., until Mr. Obama agrees to sign the bills that eliminate all of the ultra socialistic programs that the American people simply do not want.
Keep in mind that the administration can not spend one cent, unless Congress authorizes that expenditure. So, Mr. Obama will be faces with a stark choice. Either he agrees to eliminate those hated programs, or he shuts down all non-essential aspects of the US Government. He will not be able to move funding from one agency to another, he will just have to furlough the employees, and shut down the offices.
You do not have a bi-partisan government by constantly belittling the other party, or by constantly blaming it for everything that is going wrong. You have bi-partisanship by compromising, working with the other party to get bills through that both sides can live with.
Mr. Obama and his leaders in the Congress chose to be a one party band. They rammed through proposal after proposal, without any Republican input at all. Now, they can reap the consequences of what they deliberately chose to do.
The American people do not like dictators. It is time that Mr. Obama learned that simple fact.
''his policies have made unemployment worse''
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
Get with the progam buddy - Obama created 4.5 million jobs.
''how would I be classed as an Ideologue. What type, what beliefs, what poitical bent????''
Same question I have for you.
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
Get with the progam buddy - Obama created 4.5 million jobs.
''how would I be classed as an Ideologue. What type, what beliefs, what poitical bent????''
Same question I have for you.
You appear, and i say appear to defend all of obama's policies. if i am in error fine - let me know. And yes i am aware of what the stimulus did - but it could have been done in a better way. Pork Politics got in the way - Nancy pelosi - got in the way.