How would the cops of know he wasn't armed or dangerous, or not a wacko? He just spent 17 minutes evading them and continued to. He could shoot from his vehicle. My gut feeling is this guy has something to hide, and it could be anything.
Police smashed elderly driver's windscreen for not wearing a seat belt:
- Thread starter Praxius
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You should really think before you speak. Your point 1: they must have called for backup because they had other cops putting out the spike mat. In the video, one can be seen heading toward the car. Point 2: for a normal traffic stop like a seat belt, there is normally no need for the officers to block the car in. (yes, they had no suspicion), However that obviously changed when he drove off, knocking down an officer.
Did not view the video - i have retrieved and watched vdeo of specific events at my work for years - To often people put the wrong slant on what the video shows. I have had at timese diferent people view the same video and on a number of ocassions they came up with different results/opinions.That is human nature. Reason I do this is training - Videos can fool you into a preconcieved decision. Ask any Police Officer
And I do think - It just may not be what you want me to think. - So they had a spike belt out - Good - He was contained -
I posted my earlier post.
He drove 8 miles in 17 minutes - never exceeding the speed limit - he pulled over when he saw they were going to use a device that punctures tires
Now you have him as an armed and dangerous wacko -
But that is a small possibility and you are reaching for a life line here:roll:
If he was suspected of being armed and dangerous -
1 - called for back up - which they did not - so guess what - Life line broke on that one -So they called for backup - Good -
2- Prevented him and his vehicle from leaving - They had the equipment - did they use it - No - Why - No reason or suspicion or gut feeling they had to.
So we see a Police Officer run up to the vehicle and go right to town on the windows
Lastly - Do you think that this qualifies as professional behavior by Police?
Just watched the video - So after the polcie had smashed the window - got yhe door open - Why - Why did the other Police Officer step in front of the one in yellow - the one who had smashed the window - as he tried to remove the man from the car.
The other Officer removed him from the vehicle
Did it have anything to do with:
1 - He knew the Officer had lost it? Yes or No - An opinion please
2 - A Civilian had arrived on scene and was a witness to the latter part of events. Yes or No - An opinion please
Guess you missed those little things - So I bring them to your attention as you should review the video again.
It says it doesn't have anything to do with him not wearing a seatbelt. It shows the cops trying to pull over someone who won't pull over.
They may have over-reacted, but seriously, you gotta know if you run from the cops they're not gonna treat you politely when they catch up with you. That's just the way it goes, the adrenaline flows.
So this falls into the category of Impolite. Really - The manners i learned as a child never covered this point.
I should write Miss Manners on this exact point 8O:roll:
To bad Dear Abby or Ann Landers is no longer around.
How old was the guy that shot the OPP officer in the head earlier this year? Age has nothing to do with whether or not a person can be dangerous or not.
And he was frightened? Confused? Who's fault is that? It's common sense that if you end up in a 17 minute chase with police that they are not necessarily going to be very happy. And usually people that run have a reason to run.
I'm not necessarily defending the smashing of the windows, but he certainly deserves some of the blame for his part in all this.
How much of the old guy's confusion was because he was still wonkey from a stroke and probably shouldn't have been out driving anyhow? Some of those old guys would rather die than surrender the steering wheel. Hell ... in a few years I'll be one of them....
...and I can well imagine those cops were stoked too....
...and I can well imagine those cops were stoked too....
You read and believe what those idiots say?? That explains some of your comments, lol.
You watched the video - Why did the other Police Officer step in and stop the one that was in a rage from removing the man from tha car - That in itself speaks volumes -
I think you need to watch the video again, assuming you can get your head out of the sand or the dark place it is, and actually understand what happened. The one officer broke the window, unlocked the door and opened it, allowing the old guy to climb out on his own. He wasn't dragged out.
Risus - Wrong again - had my colonoscopy yesterday and as the Doc informed me, my head is not up there.
Some points that you have yet to address. And so I have clarified them as I post from a dark place, in your opinion, I tried to make them clear and concise. And a few extra.
I have watched the video
Yes you have ignored one important facet that speaks volumes - You think that a so called car chase over 8 miles, taking 17 minutes is justification for the actions taken.Yes or No???
You watched the video - Why did the other Police Officer step in and stop the one that was in a rage from removing the man from the car - That in itself speaks volumes - What does that tell you?? Or do you conveniently overlook that. As I stated earlier many people watch a video and misinterpret the sequence and analysis of events. As you have.
Just watched the video - So after the police had smashed the window - got the door open - Why - Why did the other Police Officer step in front of the one in yellow - the one who had smashed the window - as he tried to remove the man from the car.
The other Officer removed him from the vehicle
Did it have anything to do with:
1 - He knew the Officer had lost it? Yes or No - An opinion please
2 - A Civilian had arrived on scene and was a witness to the latter part of events. Yes or No - An opinion please
3- Was the driver a danger? Yes or No - An opinion please
Guess you missed those little things - So I bring them to your attention as you should review the video again.
If he was a danger then we would have noted different actions taken by the Police Officers - If he had a gun - would a Police Officer stand in front of that car window slamming a baton against it?
I think not, but then again these 2 Officers appear to have demonstrated a clear ability to Not Think out their actions and / or plan accordingly.
Same with the 4 RCMP on Vancouver Airport. No Plan - No Thinking - Just over reaction
Police are trained to deescalate a situation when possible. How and where do you see them doing this. None of this was done - They were on that car like flies on a manure pile.
I just watch the video again- the two cops were definitely out of line. I think before they do anything (in a non violent, non threatening situation) they are supposed to introduce themselves and show their badge.
You must have watched a different video that I did. Regarding your first 'yes or no' no, it wasn't the low speed chase, it was th fact that hi hit and knocked over an officer when he left the scene of the original incident. What is it you don't understand aboput that???
regarding your questions. #1: no one knows what he knew
#2: that was an officer from the team that put down the nail belt, not a civilian
#3: No, but the officers might have been, considering the earlier 'assault'.
That's some police chase, when the cops keep to the speed limit for 17 minutes--- what were they planning? Why not go faster, pull up beside or in front of, to stop the offending driver? (who thought he was being escorted and it would appear that way