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Great pic Durka!
The NWO ROCKS!
should the police at G8/G20 have more ability?
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Great pic Durka!
The NWO ROCKS!
No, people in general. I misread his question.
"Officers made more than 900 arrests linked to the summit in the past 10 days, Jillian Van Acker, a representative of the G20 Integrated Security Unit, said Monday. However, early on Saturday morning, police said they had arrested a total of 32 people, meaning that close to 900 were arrested during the weekend alone."
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...s-arrests-in-canadian-history/article1621198/
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Police beat journalist covering G20: report"
Freelance journalist Jesse Rosenfeld says police beat him Saturday night in Toronto as he covered a G20 demonstration.
A second journalist who witnessed the incident said it was "not a great night for democracy."
Steve Paikin, host of TVO's The Agenda public affairs show, was watching protesters on a downtown Toronto street, the Esplanade, on Saturday night.
In a message posted on Twitter, Paikin wrote that the demonstration was peaceful. "It was like an old sit-in. No one was aggressive, and yet riot squad officers moved in."
Police told him to leave, and "as I was escorted away from the demonstration, I saw two officers hold a journalist."
"The journalist identified himself as working for the Guardian," Paikin tweeted. "He talked too much and pissed the police off. Two officers held him. A third punched him in the stomach. Totally unnecessary. The man collapsed. Then the third officer drove his elbow into the man's back."
They were kinda smiling in that pic, not so much when the tear gas started flying. That's when I got the f out. :smile:
Absolutely! Five is complete off-base on this one. I'm not exactly your radical lefty, but I might have emptied my pockets of ID and gone down to lean on the fence.........
I got searched a couple times yesterday, not exactly cool but I put up with it so I could take photos of the protest. The police seemed to mostly be looking for anyone wearing black clothing and being in their early 20's though. All in all, it was a sad affair and waste of money.
There were thousands of non-violent protesters and maybe a few hundred violent thugs. Police arrested some thugs, but they also arrested non-violent protesters, people mouthing off, news people, pedestrians...
What a stupid decision to have the summit in downtown Toronto. A billion dollar cocktail party. I had to work there all last week. The area felt like living in a police state.
Business owners are on the hook for loss of business and property damage. They should sue Harper.
What a stupid decision to have the summit in downtown Toronto. A billion dollar cocktail party. I had to work there all last week. The area felt like living in a police state.
Business owners are on the hook for loss of business and property damage. They should sue Harper.
.... and the cops for not doing a good enough job, and the thugs for being malicious, etc.
(No-one thought my riverdance comment was funny? Buncha Eeyores you guys are)
Whether the cops should have more ability is only a secondary consideration. The people planning the charade should have a functioning brain. Toronto is just about the worst possible site. Churchill Mb. would make much more sense.
.... and the cops for not doing a good enough job, and the thugs for being malicious, etc.
(No-one thought my riverdance comment was funny? Buncha Eeyores you guys are)
Actually, I lmao......
I've heard of a couple earlier today on the radio. Wrong place at the wrong time it seems.
Toronto was the perfect place for them to display what they are capable of. The billion dollars was not to protect the delegates but to do maneuvers. This was a practice session and an opportunity to see how much "good citizens" are willing to give up their freedoms. And if anybody cares to look closely you will see that this Black Bloc (who came out of nowhere) were all wearing police issue boots. Can anybody aswer why that police car was abandoned in the middle of the street? These bozos were exposed in Quebec city and in the courts as being RCMP provocateurs. The RCMP admitted it back then. Now they are running amok in Toronto and everybody is buying the BS that these are anarchists. Gi' yur heads a shake!
Law is enforced by violence so it is fair to oppose it with violence IMO. It makes no sense whatever to claim that one side is justified while the other is not; that is just a deceleration of preference. Any governance relies on violence and requires the accent of the people (willing or not), it follows then that he who wields the violence also rules, which is, as it turns out, always the case. It is, in fact, a requirement of government to have a monopoly on violence, only they can use it, anyone else who tries is a "criminal." Anyway, sure, the dirty scoundrels are rotten criminals, lock 'em up and throw away the key - hell, just shoot them all. Ah, I do love the smell of napalm in the morning.
On the other hand maybe they'll win - eventually. There are more than a few politicians I would come out to see swinging by their necks.
The trick is to make the herd as comfortable as possible or give them some imagining that life will get better; that's how you get their accent - blow smoke up their asses.
So until the herd has reason to support the protests, that is to say some self interested need motivates them, the protesters will be doomed to ridicule and acts of state violence. Oh well, so long as most of us are fat and happy who cares? Let them eat cake.
On the other hand maybe they'll win - eventually. There are more than a few politicians I would come out to see swinging by their necks.
The trick is to make the herd as comfortable as possible or give them some imagining that life will get better; that's how you get their accent - blow smoke up their asses.
So until the herd has reason to support the protests, that is to say some self interested need motivates them, the protesters will be doomed to ridicule and acts of state violence. Oh well, so long as most of us are fat and happy who cares? Let them eat cake.
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Cliff- Are you saying that the majority of these thugs AREN'T just run of the mill low mentality trouble makers and looters? :iconbiggrin:
I agree that the law passed by the Ontario cabinet just before the summit was a violation of the basic rights of Canadian citizens and needed to be violated. I wish 10,000 people had of collected the nerve to go down and stand beside the fence without ID, and refuse to identify themselves........to be arrested and clog the system...
At the same time, it was ridiculous to have the police stand by and watch (on the premise that they didn't want anyone hurt) as the masked Black Bloc smashed windows, burned cars, destroyed property ......those arseholes need a baton to the side of the head......might knock whatever is loose in their heads back into place.
At the same time, it was ridiculous to have the police stand by and watch (on the premise that they didn't want anyone hurt) as the masked Black Bloc smashed windows, burned cars, destroyed property ......those arseholes need a baton to the side of the head......might knock whatever is loose in their heads back into place.
Just as an example - the police car was abandoned in the middle of the street. It got torched according to plan - the reason it was left there, by police provocateurs, just as planned. Why, so the police could arrest peaceful demonstrators and to discredit any protester as a mindless thug. Look close enough and you see that it is the police who are the mindless thugs intimating that they are responding to violence when it is they who instigated it in the first place. I have been to enough demonstrations to have been an eye witness to that fact and came within inches of having become a victim of their violence on several occasions. I have seen 16 year old girls arrested for standing on a road to peacefully express their opposition to having people's water supply destroyed.
As far as I'm concerned, Toronto is part of an ever increasing escalation of police crack down on descent headed toward a police state that would make Hitler proud. It is becoming more evident that Hitler did win the war. If you look closely, you will see the steady progression since the 50s toward fascism.
Putting aside the delusional conspiracy theories.. here are a few real facts to consider.
900 people were arrested, but only 400 are actually being held accountable. That means more than half of the people arrested were arrested wrongfully. I can understand if they need to quickly sanction an area, but that's terribly inefficent and a very poor display.
There is also to be a public inquiry and an inquiry from Amnesty to review the G20 police tactics.
CBC News - Toronto - Toronto police to review G20 tactics
Now, evidently, the Ontario government is wiping their hands clean of this mess. Apparantly, there was no bill actually passed last week or at least there was no bill passed as we understood it. Now, all police arrests that were made.. were made under the Criminal Code of Canada. So now, according to the them it is now perfectly fine to illegitimately arrest people under the criminal code - nice.
http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/...t-law-police-powers-granted-ontario-says?bn=1
And lastly, Mayors are patting themselves for their insight into the fact that: "summits should be held on the outskirts of cities, rather than their downtown cores." Gee, I guess the entire population of Toronto (including legitimate protestors and educated civilians alike) spelling this out to our leaders before the G20, just wasn't convincing enough.
Mayors pull welcome mat for summits - Yahoo! Canada News
900 people were arrested, but only 400 are actually being held accountable. That means more than half of the people arrested were arrested wrongfully. I can understand if they need to quickly sanction an area, but that's terribly inefficent and a very poor display.
There is also to be a public inquiry and an inquiry from Amnesty to review the G20 police tactics.
CBC News - Toronto - Toronto police to review G20 tactics
Now, evidently, the Ontario government is wiping their hands clean of this mess. Apparantly, there was no bill actually passed last week or at least there was no bill passed as we understood it. Now, all police arrests that were made.. were made under the Criminal Code of Canada. So now, according to the them it is now perfectly fine to illegitimately arrest people under the criminal code - nice.
http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/...t-law-police-powers-granted-ontario-says?bn=1
And lastly, Mayors are patting themselves for their insight into the fact that: "summits should be held on the outskirts of cities, rather than their downtown cores." Gee, I guess the entire population of Toronto (including legitimate protestors and educated civilians alike) spelling this out to our leaders before the G20, just wasn't convincing enough.
Mayors pull welcome mat for summits - Yahoo! Canada News
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Heard on the radio today that a reporter was manhandled, called a myriad of nasty names like "douchebag", told she should be gangbanged, and then her job threatened ............ by the cops.
That's going a bit overboard, IMO. But the police chief backs his men. :roll:
That's going a bit overboard, IMO. But the police chief backs his men. :roll: