Are we a more tolerant society today?
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So now you switch positions and say that people actually did eat veggies. Interesting.
Also,
I'm a rebel. I usually start with a couple bites of veggies first, then meat, then rice/pasta/spuds. Hubby usually starts with meat, veggies, then carbfood unless the veggie is green beans or asparagus in which case he downs the veggies completely before touching the other stuff.
That stuff's just for the unmanly men. lmao
"The current recommendation is to eat potatoes, vegetables and meat, in that order."- Sometimes I stick my fork in the meat first, sometimes in the spuds first and sometimes in the veggies first. Truthfully I've never noticed a difference whichever way I did it.
Most of the people around here had a steady diet including carrots and turnip as the main vegetables, as they could be easily kept over the winter. Peas and beans and beets were also a staple through the winter, as they could be preserved.
Perhaps so. In the old days vegetables were not as readily available all year around as they are today. But meat was the main staple in the old days, with vegetables only a side dish.
I think the current recommendation is to eat 7 or 8 servings of fruit and vegetables a day. There is no way they ate that much fruits and vegetables in old days, most people don't do that even today. But because of the official recommendations probably people eat more fruit and vegetables compared to old days.
I was able to find data for UK, showing how fruit and vegetable consumption has increased from 1942 to 2006. It shows that the consumption of fruits and vegetables has increased substantially over the past several decades (as can be reasonably expected). I see no reason why it would be different for USA or Canada.
http://www.heartstats.org/documents/download.asp?nodeid=5579&libraryversionid=2854
Apparently, back somewhere in the early years of the 20th century my Dad's family lived on carrots for a winter as everything else in the garden failed. There was boiled carrots, fried carrots, roasted carrots, poached carrots, steamed carrots, basted carrots, carrot pies, carrot puddings & a mulitude of other carrot preparations. There was no mention of meat, so I'm not sure they had no meat, but carrots were definitely the main fare. Things improved between then and '59. :smile:
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In the old days" people ate whatever stored through winter easily. Mostly root veggies, grains, honey and booze.
You forget dried meat (salt pork, beef jerky etc.). And while that may have been true say 100 years ago, I doubt that it was true 50 years ago. By then limited number of vegetables were available in winter (but as i said before, people didn't eat a whole lot of them).
aaaaand, I have no tolerance for people who are not tolerant of intolerant people.
Glad to see the thread is back on track, never did understand the connection with meat and spuds..............:lol:
Excuse me? My family lived in the Maritimes - they ate seasonally - they ate a lot of root vegetables in the winter and ate what was growing in the summer - much like the rest of rural Canada did. People at what was available - and what they could put by - by canning and preserving. To say that people didn't eat a lot of vegetables ? Maybe in the city? But in rural areas - they did.
For the record? I spent a lot of times with my relatives in Nova Scotia when I was a child. We ate a LOT of vegetables - just like all the other families - and in the winter? There were root vegetables and canned vegetables. It's what people did.
According to you. I'd suggest that people didn't eat as many veggies from stores as they do now. Gardens were more plentiful and preserving was more frequently done.
Amber Waves, March 2010, Feature - Guess Who's Turning 100? Tracking a Century of American Eating
And my point being - vegetables picked at the hight of their freshness and canned retain much of their nutrients. And no, I didn't go back to the beginning of the thread - sorry - it's very late...
Yup!According to you. I'd suggest that people didn't eat as many veggies from stores as they do now. Gardens were more plentiful and preserving was more frequently done.
Amber Waves, March 2010, Feature - Guess Who's Turning 100? Tracking a Century of American Eating
Don't get excited DHW- You'll find the odd poster here who doesn't know what he's talking about- just blowing smoke.
Definitely. People didn't eat steak and spuds, roast beef with yorkie pudding every day, and usually what was left over from roast or whatever was turned into a meat and veggie soups, stews, and pies. And the amounts of meat in those soups, stews, and pies was dwarfed by the amounts of veggies simply because, unless you were a hunter, meats were more expensive than veggies by a long shot (pun intended lol). What's more is there were a lot of countries where the majority of peoples couldn't afford to eat meat more than once a week or more.
Joey is babbling through his hat as usual.
yup, when I was a little girl, my mother did not have much money at all to spend on food, and she had to
carefully decide what meats she could buy, and then make them stretch. Lots of cheaper cuts that cooked
slowely with moisture and such, BUT the trick was the VEGETABLES she added to the meals and of course
potatoes, almost with every meal, to complete the nutrition, because meat was expensive, and certainly
not the main food in our house.
She canned peaches and pears every year, and we had those all winter, and she also bought some canned
fruits as well.
Carrots, turnips, parsnips, peas, cabbage, beans, ALWAYS veggies with our meals, and she always had lettuce
in the house too, which was part of most sandwitches, she did not make salads, unless it was potatoe salad.
We loved fresh lettuce and tomatoe sandwitches, and there was not any meat in those sandwitches, just a
little salad dressing.
carefully decide what meats she could buy, and then make them stretch. Lots of cheaper cuts that cooked
slowely with moisture and such, BUT the trick was the VEGETABLES she added to the meals and of course
potatoes, almost with every meal, to complete the nutrition, because meat was expensive, and certainly
not the main food in our house.
She canned peaches and pears every year, and we had those all winter, and she also bought some canned
fruits as well.
Carrots, turnips, parsnips, peas, cabbage, beans, ALWAYS veggies with our meals, and she always had lettuce
in the house too, which was part of most sandwitches, she did not make salads, unless it was potatoe salad.
We loved fresh lettuce and tomatoe sandwitches, and there was not any meat in those sandwitches, just a
little salad dressing.
Yep, I doubt if people during the Hungry thirties were buying very much meat if any. In fact they probably shot most of the meat they ate.
the thought of my dad having a gun in his hand is terrifying, as he was usually tipsy, and didn't have
a clue about hunting, so that would not have turned out too well.
The local butcher was very helpful to my mom, knew what she liked, and she would always have something
nice and fresh. She did amazing things with stewing beef, pot roast, and we had liver quite often.