Israel 'attacks' Gaza aid fleet

[ironsides]

And another rabid beaver attack, Any bite from a wild mammal, especially one acting different than normal, needs to be considered a possible rabies exposure, and I was impressed that the family pushed for rabies testing. The beaver was thought to have ben killed with a crowbar and "The skull was crushed to the point where there wasn't enough brain material" for testing. Guess it is still around.




http://www.wormsandgermsblog.com/uploads/image/Giant Beaver.jpg

 

[darkbeaver]

I see you can't answer the questions....

And thanx for proving me...

...right.

Of course, right out of the Hasbara manual CNDbear. For your information, you have used that exact phrase six-hundred and sixty six thousand times. You prove yourself unworthy to be Canadian, you should move to Israel where your black heart is.

 

[ironsides]

CDNBear is actually one who cares about something unlike others here.

 

[CDNBear]

Of course, right out of the Hasbara manual CNDbear. For your information, you have used that exact phrase six-hundred and sixty six thousand times. You prove yourself unworthy to be Canadian, you should move to Israel where your black heart is.

Still can't actually cite which article, and provide evidence of how it applies...

Awesome, what's it like being a parrot DB?

CDNBear is actually one who cares about something unlike others here.

Don't worry about it Iron, look at what its coming from. DB and JBeee have openly broken Canadian Law in calling for the genocide of Israeli's.

If I actually thought they were more then just internet scum, with nothing but the safety of the monitor as their pseudo scrotum, I would actually give a rats ass about their words.

Besides, I like watching them all change direction when you ask them direct questions. They just parrot what someone else tells them is fact, instead of actually doing any thinking of their own. Which is why they project that "hand book" crap at everyone that doesn't swallow the same koolaid.

 

[lone wolf]

One bomb = Easier set of problems

 

[MHz]

YouTube - Close-Up Footage of Mavi Marmara Passengers Attacking IDF Soldiers!

The person fell to the next lower deck, he was on the ship-side of the life-raft, a few seconds after he is tossed over the rail tha camera pans to the right and there you see people standing on a deck. GET SOME GLASSES

 

[captain morgan]

In the end they cut their throats just the same.

Like the Taliban/Al Queda?.. That kind of throat cutting?

 

[CDNBear]

The person fell to the next lower deck, he was on the ship-side of the life-raft, a few seconds after he is tossed over the rail tha camera pans to the right and there you see people standing on a deck. GET SOME GLASSES

The top deck over hangs the lower deck, which supports the Israeli's report that the man was thrown overboard. Way to miss the point, the beatings going on and the fact that no one was unarmed, no one was aspleep and the Israeli's dealt with the violent passengers with justifiable force.

Learn to read, get glasses and grow up.

 

[ironsides]

Flotilla activists 'tried to lynch Israeli soldiers'

[FONT=Palatino, Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]'They were fully prepared to provoke this deadly confrontation'

[SIZE=-1]Posted: May 31, 2010
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By Aaron Klein
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Aerial footage of protesters attacking Israeli forces during flotilla raid
Activists on a six-ship flotilla headed to the Gaza Strip had planned to lynch the Israeli commandos who stormed the ship, according to indications at the scene encountered by Israeli forces.
Officials in the Israel Defense Forces told WND that when IDF forces stormed the ship, some participants onboard attempted to grab the Israeli commandos to lynch the forces with rope.
"They were fully prepared to provoke this deadly confrontation," said an IDF official.
"Some of the participants tried to grab our forces while others were standing by with rope," the official said. "The indications are the participants were trying to lynch the Israeli forces."
Earlier today, Israeli navy commandos raided the flotilla, encountering heavy resistance and live fire from the activists. Several activists were killed and dozens were reportedly injured, as were several of the Israeli commandos.
The main flotilla ship was named the MV Rachel Corrie, taking on the namesake of a far-left activist from the International Solidarity Movement who died in 2003 while serving as a human shield to protect a terrorist.
An Al-Jazeera news report yesterday translated by Palestinian Media Watch documented men on the flotilla chanting, "[Remember] Khaibar, Khaibar, oh Jews! The army of Muhammad will return!"
That chant is often used at rallies for Hamas in the West Bank and Gaza Strip. Khaibar is the name of the last Jewish village defeated by Muhammad in 628. That battle marked the end of the Jewish presence in Arabia.
Al-Jazeera also interviewed a woman on the flotilla who said that the participants' goal was "one of two happy endings: either Martyrdom or reaching Gaza."
Al-Jazeera reported yesterday flotilla participants announced that they would use "resistance" against Israel.
One of the flotilla passengers is the former Melkite Greek archbishop of Jerusalem, father Hilarion Capucci, who was previously arrested for using his church car service to smuggle explosives, firearms and katyusha rockets into Israel for the PLO. Capucci freed after an appeal from the Vatican.
Israeli Naval Forces intercepted the flotilla and five other ships attempting to break the maritime closure of the Gaza Strip, a territory controlled by Hamas.
An Israel Defense Forces spokesperson told WND commandos boarded the ships after numerous warnings from Israel requesting the ships redirect toward the Israeli port of Ashdod where they would be able to unload their aid supplies, which could then be transferred to the Gaza Strip after undergoing security inspections.
During the boarding of one of the ships, the Marmara, activists onboard attacked IDF Naval personnel with live fire and light weaponry including knives and clubs, the IDF spokesperson said.

Israel Navy commandos: Gaza flotilla activists tried to lynch us - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News

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[MHz]

I await the barrage of insults and lack of facts, logic, critical thought, reason, intellect or maturity, from the morally bankrupt and ethically challenged.

Your're suck in a repeat mode for this line.

CDNBear is actually one who cares about something unlike others here.

Perhaps you can start an appreciation thread for him and a mod can move all these posts there.

 

[CDNBear]

Your're suck in a repeat mode for this line.

Well if you don't like it, and feel shame for being such, stop being a completely perfect example of it.

 

[eanassir]

Re: How About Keeping The Rest Of Us Safe From Israel?

You wanna be safe?!

You must recognize Israel's right to exist! Otherwise, your a simpleton stuck in dark ages! aka potential terrorist

You wanna? aka you are one of them or like them. aka.

Everything coverts in the end.

DB; Dub doob ... dubab dub : a song. :lol:

Every material body converts to dust.
And every ethereal returns to the ether.

I agree with you about this.

=======================================================
I tried to separate these three replies, but it was useless. Whatever I add it will be added to the same reply.

Would Muslims be considered to be Gentiles and as such they belong to Christ, similar to the Romans of the NT?

1- Muslims belong to God Almighty; as do all other peoples and nations created by God Most Gracious.

2- Some distorted books may lead to distorted doctrines of the enthusiasm for one who depends on such distorted and altered books.

3- Jesus, Mohammed and Moses are only apostles, not more.

4- Gentiles and the Chosen People of God and the progeny of Aaron the priests ...etc.
The Chosen People of God: at the time of Moses and the prophets after him: these were the pious among the Children of Israel who followed the prophets and the commandments of God and fought in the way of God against the idolatry and that God alone is the God without associate.

Then when Jesus came: the people chosen by God to be devoted to Him alone: these were the Christians who followed Jesus at his time.

Then when Mohammed came: the people chosen by God are the Islamic nation who followed Prophet Mohammed at his time.

But if these do associate, with their God, others like Jesus or Ezra or their prophets and patrons : their imams and sheikhs: they will not be anymore the chosen people by God.

The Chosen People of God are now the Muslims who devote themselves to God alone and believe in all God's apostles and prophets and in all His revealed books including the Quran and its interpretation.

4- Jesus is not different from Mohammed nor from Moses or Abraham in following and inviting people to glorify God alone and in fearing God alone.
As in the Quran 46: 9

قُلْ مَا كُنتُ بِدْعًا مِّنْ الرُّسُلِ وَمَا أَدْرِي مَا يُفْعَلُ بِي وَلَا بِكُمْ إِنْ أَتَّبِعُ إِلَّا مَا يُوحَى إِلَيَّ وَمَا أَنَا إِلَّا نَذِيرٌ مُّبِينٌ​

The explanation:
(Say [O Mohammed]: "I am not the first innovation of the messengers [but many apostles passed before me, so why do you surprise and deny me];

even I know not what shall be done with me or with you [in the future];

I only am following that which is revealed to me [from my Lord];

I am only an obvious warner.")​

While concerning Jesus: he is one apostle before whom many apostles had passed before him. So why do you glorify him exclusively apart from the rest of God's apostles? While Jesus together with his mother ate the food and relieved the nature, so how can they be any gods?

As in the Quran 5: 75

مَّا الْمَسِيحُ ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ إِلاَّ رَسُولٌ قَدْ خَلَتْ مِن قَبْلِهِ الرُّسُلُ وَأُمُّهُ صِدِّيقَةٌ كَانَا يَأْكُلاَنِ الطَّعَامَ انظُرْ كَيْفَ نُبَيِّنُ لَهُمُ الآيَاتِ ثُمَّ انظُرْ أَنَّى يُؤْفَكُونَ​

The explanation:
(The Messiah, son of Mary, was only a messenger, messengers before him passed away [so why do you glorify him alone, excluding others?] His mother was a true believer [in the Ten Commandments of her Lord]; [the Messiah and his mother] both ate food [and anyone eats food, has to relieve nature, therefore how could they be gods?] See [Mohammed] how We make clear the revelations to them; then see how perverted they are [away from the truth!]​

Say: "Do you serve, apart from God, [the Messiah] that [now] cannot hurt or profit you [because he died and his soul ascended to heaven, among angels]; while God is the All-Hearing [of any who cries to Him], the All-Knowing [of any who supplicates Him?]​

Say: "people of the Bible [lit. Scripture], do not go beyond the bounds, in your religion, other than the truth [that the Christ is the son of man, not the son of God], and follow not the vain desires of a people [: your monks and clergymen] who went astray before [away from the truth, seeking after wealth and position], and led astray much many [of people], and themselves erred from the plain way [of Paradise, so they reached the Fire in the afterlife.]​

 

[MHz]

Well if you don't like it, and feel shame for being such, stop being a completely perfect example of it.

And here I was hoping for a reply on the person you indicate was thrown into the water with the hopes of being sucked into the prop. Right at the 101 mark, is that the the paintball gun? If that is what they brought then what killed the people?

I'm going to trim down your long post.
"Why no mention of Egypt?"
That might be another Allie that bails on them.
Al-Jazzera: Egypt opening Rafah crossing for humanitarian aid to Gaza - Israel News, Ynetnews

 

[CDNBear]

And here I was hoping for a reply on the person you indicate was thrown into the water with the hopes of being sucked into the prop.

Learn to read, I already answered the asinine post.

Right at the 101 mark, is that the the paintball gun? If that is what they brought then what killed the people?

Guns, because they brought them too. But hey, you rewrite reality however you want. I like reality based on the facts. Those facts indicate that they hit the deck using non lethal force. They were forced to defend themselves with lethality because of your heroes. If you support or defend that kind of insanity, feel free to wear the monicker of morally bankrupt, or ethically challenged, forever.

I'm going to trim down your long post.

Of course, why would you want to face reality.

"Why no mention of Egypt?"
That might be another Allie that bails on them.
Al-Jazzera: Egypt opening Rafah crossing for humanitarian aid to Gaza - Israel News, Ynetnews

:lol: Miss the point much? What a shining example of your limited grasp on reality and the severe comprehension issue you suffer from.

 

[MHz]

The top deck over hangs the lower deck, which supports the Israeli's report that the man was thrown overboard. Way to miss the point, the beatings going on and the fact that no one was unarmed, no one was aspleep and the Israeli's dealt with the violent passengers with justifiable force.

Learn to read, get glasses and grow up.

Not according to the picture right below your post. BTW around here a Badger plays second fiddle to Wolverines and the only stick you better poke them with is a shark bang-stick.

Guns, because they brought them too. But hey, you rewrite reality however you want. I like reality based on the facts. Those facts indicate that they hit the deck using non lethal force. They were forced to defend themselves with lethality because of your heroes. If you support or defend that kind of insanity, feel free to wear the monicker of morally bankrupt, or ethically challenged, forever.

What are you babbling about, in the years I have been here I have mentioned Turkey only a very few time, that hardly makes them my hero. All they had to do at night was escort the vessels, but they have no legal right to detain anybody when they are exempt from inspections.

 

[CDNBear]

Not according to the picture right below your post.

I'm about to and something you and countless others here, are in capable of, concede.

I looked up the Mavi Marmara and found that you are indeed correct. There is a deck under that spot. 20 feet down and not the same deck you see people on. But a deck below, non the less.

At any rate, it's immaterial to the fact that the passengers incited the aggression.

BTW around here a Badger plays second fiddle to Wolverines and the only stick you better poke them with is a shark bang-stick.

It would be nice if you finished your posts before you post them so I can poke holes in your stupid posts more efficiently, please and thank you...

What are you babbling about, in the years I have been here I have mentioned Turkey only a very few time, that hardly makes them my hero.

I was referring to the neo Nazi supporters, the passengers you're defending. Again, revealing your severe comprehension issues.

All they had to do at night was escort the vessels, but they have no legal right to detain anybody when they are exempt from inspections.

When their destination is an established port, they most certainly do. For some that has touted Maritime Law many times, you certainly don't understand it very well.

Now if you wouldn't mind citing the laws that have been broken, and sticking to the topic at hand, it would be greatly appreciated, thanx.

 

[captain morgan]

but they have no legal right to detain anybody when they are exempt from inspections.

Arms smugglers have no legal right to ply their trade either.... And where do you get this idea that these vessels are exempt from inspections?

 

[CDNBear]

Arms smugglers have no legal right to ply their trade either.... And where do you get this idea that these vessels are exempt from inspections?

Like most of her posts, she parrots what she gleans from around the net, without ever actually vetting or establishing the facts of the matter for herself.

So in short, she pulls it out of her ass. Which is why she can never actually answer a single question without copying and pasting it from somewhere else. Of course, when pressed to explain she fails to be able to do so. Thus how I end up on her iggy list when I constantly insist she explains how her cut and pastes and babble actually applies.

DB and JBeee do the same thing, and when asked to cite laws, case law or examples, they go off topic in a hurry.

 

[MHz]

I'm about to and something you and countless others here, are in capable of, concede.

It isn't a contest. Were the people that were 'sleeping' huddled on the floor instead no way anybody could evre be so passed out as to sleep through the event.

At any rate, it's immaterial to the fact that the passengers incited the aggression.

Coming in from the sky is also an aggressive move and as you pointed out the firearms they brought with them were eventually used.

I was referring to the neo Nazi supporters, the passengers you're defending. Again, revealing your severe comprehension issues.

Which picture has that flag being flown or draped on any of the ships in that convoy.

When their destination is an established port, they most certainly do. For some that has touted Maritime Law many times, you certainly don't understand it very well.

We have already covered the paper-works that defines a naval blockade cannot include humanitarian aid as defined by those documents, if you need a refresher go back and re-read the documents.

Now if you wouldn't mind citing the laws that have been broken, and sticking to the topic at hand, it would be greatly appreciated, thanx.

Already been done.

 

[CDNBear]

It isn't a contest.

True, but I'm just far more ethical then you, is all.

Were the people that were 'sleeping' huddled on the floor instead no way anybody could evre be so passed out as to sleep through the event.

Not that that has anything to do with anything I've said, but I agree. Hence why Stretches post is pure BS. But thanx for helping me confirm the absurdity.

Coming in from the sky is also an aggressive move and as you pointed out the firearms they brought with them were eventually used.

Because the ship failed to heed hails to stop and prepare for boarding. Period.

You sew, so shall ye reap.

Which picture has that flag being flown or draped on any of the ships in that convoy.

If you support Hamas, you support neo Nazism. Period. It's been proven time and time again.

We have already covered the paper-works that defines a naval blockade cannot include humanitarian aid as defined by those documents, if you need a refresher go back and re-read the documents.

I don't need a refresher, you do. Israel has not stopped the aid from going on to it's final destination, they wish to inspect it for contraband.

I understand how this would be missed by someone. Which is further compounded by you complete lack of knowledge of law, maritime or otherwise.

Hence why you can only parrot it, cut and paste it or otherwise manipulate it to fit your own version of reality. Pathetic really.

Already been done.

No it hasn't. You've just babbled about it being illegal, without ever showing cause. And certainly while ignoring the fact that the aid will not be prevented from reaching its intended port.