Israel 'attacks' Gaza aid fleet

petros

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In Occupied Territories
  • Palestinians: 3544
  • Israelis: 532
Gee. And I keep hearing there are no illegally occupied lands but there is a scorecard. How come?
 

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Gee. And I keep hearing there are no illegally occupied lands but there is a scorecard. How come?
Bias. People always want their preferred side to look better than the other.
IMO, both sides are nuts and it is irrelevant which side uses atrocities most. The point is the atrocities, not the amount.
 

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Bias. People always want their preferred side to look better than the other.
IMO, both sides are nuts and it is irrelevant which side uses atrocities most. The point is the atrocities, not the amount.
I'm disappointed that Christians that are Palestinian or Arab or Egyptian or Jordanian or Lebanese aren't taking any blame or getting any glory.
 

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I'm disappointed that Christians that are Palestinian or Arab or Egyptian or Jordanian or Lebanese aren't taking any blame or getting any glory.
Maybe they need a course in affirmation?
 

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You can READ, can't you??

Once again.....

Twentieth Century Atlas - Death Tolls

Look at the figures.....look at the totals....it is reasonably easy for anyone with an IQ higher than their shoe size to figure out that Israel has killed comparatively very few Arabs.......and a large portion of those were killed in defensive wars.


i've concluded your warped views on israel are a result of viewing and reading various propaganda/extremely bias sources. you told me in this thread to read a book written by the israeli ambassador to the united states, on the uss liberty. are you joking ? :lol:

"it's reasonably easy for anyone with an IQ higher than their shoe size to figure out" if you're really trying to understand the situation , you'll learn from a neutral source. because otherwise you're learning from someone who may be not totally honest and distort reality. you don't support your argument by constantly linking to pro-israeli sites on supposed "facts".

if you think most of the arabs killed by israeli's was in self-defence rather than an aggressive offensive, well this just further cements my belief that you're learning from nothing but bias sources.
 

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So Colpy.

Why is the US and Canada arming evil Lebanon, Saudi's, Turks, Egyptians, UAE, Yemen etc etc etc????

Is it right that a SNC Lavlin made artillery shell could potentially take out dozens of Israelis some day?

SNC Tech has a contract with the U.S. Military to manufacture 500,000,000 bullets per year, for 12 years.
So guaranteed war until at least 2014 or CPP takes a hit on SNC earnings.
 

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If Israel has no war Israel has no state. Israel is doomed either way, they can't beat their enemies and they can't refuse to engage in war. Peace will destroy them faster than war acctualy. Isn't that terrible?
 

darkbeaver

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Lucky for them they have so many enemies. A suspicious person would almost think they had arranged that just for the loot, dead bonified semites killed by pseudo semites, who declare themselves the worlds leading protectors of semites, to correct anti-semitism. How ****ed up is that?

500,000,000 bullets a year for 12 years is a lot of bullets for a peace loving country to produce. I wonder if we really are as peaceful as we think. We built a lot of bullets to save the world from the communist Viet Cong as well. I think it's time Canada stopped being such a tribe of hypocritical assholes.
 

petros

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If they keep infighting and having stonings between the Orthodox and atheists the entire nation is doomed even without the Palestine issues. Soon the Orthodox will wall themselves off in Jerusalem and the atheists in Tel Aviv.

darkbeaver said:
500,000,000 bullets a year for 12 years is a lot of bullets for a peace loving country to produce. I wonder if we really are as peaceful as we think. We built a lot of bullets to save the world from the communist Viet Cong as well. I think it's time Canada stopped being such a tribe of hypocritical assholes.
Check into what the Harper Govt has invested CPP and EI monies into. It's all war and oil.
 

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If they keep infighting and having stonings between the Orthodox and atheists the entire nation is doomed even without the Palestine issues. Soon the Orthodox will wall themselves off in Jerusalem and the atheists in Tel Aviv.
I guess there'll be a few less nutjobs in the ME then.
 

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If they keep infighting and having stonings between the Orthodox and atheists the entire nation is doomed even without the Palestine issues. Soon the Orthodox will wall themselves off in Jerusalem and the atheists in Tel Aviv.


Check into what the Harper Govt has invested CPP and EI monies into. It's all war and oil.

It shouldn't take much imagination to connect those dots and learn what rules the planet eh. But it just never seems to sink in even though that has been the case for a very very long time. We remain easy to fool. Could it be our education systems? I think it is. **** all teachers.
 

petros

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It's not the education system it's reliance on thinking the govt is doing what is best for you. You can raise the bar on education by being a good parent and participating or you can just let your kids be mediocre but appear educated by a lowered govt standards.

If the media uses words that Joe Blow doesn't understand then Joe is only getting a fraction of what is said and easily slips into reaction mode out of fear of not fully knowing what is happening.
 

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i've concluded your warped views on israel are a result of viewing and reading various propaganda/extremely bias sources. you told me in this thread to read a book written by the israeli ambassador to the united states, on the uss liberty. are you joking ? :lol:

"it's reasonably easy for anyone with an IQ higher than their shoe size to figure out" if you're really trying to understand the situation , you'll learn from a neutral source. because otherwise you're learning from someone who may be not totally honest and distort reality. you don't support your argument by constantly linking to pro-israeli sites on supposed "facts".

if you think most of the arabs killed by israeli's was in self-defence rather than an aggressive offensive, well this just further cements my belief that you're learning from nothing but bias sources.

No.

I actually read historians, people that were somewhere close.

I am actually capable of thinking for myself.

I don't get most of my info from the web. I read....you know, actual books. The ones with covers and pages you have to turn.

I've spent most of my life interested in history.........reading it, thinking about it, taking classes in it. One thing I do know, there ARE no neutral sources, everybody has an axe to grind, or an inherent bias.

You totally ignore anything offered to you as evidence.....you have obviously made up your mind, and don't wish to be confused with facts.

If you deny that, answer me this:

Where in the ME do Arabs get to vote in open free elections for a legislature that actually has some relevance?

Why do Israeli Bedouin fight in the Israeli army?

Why did Yasser Arafat spit in the face of Barak when he was offered a nation?

Why have the Arab nations abandoned the West Bank and Gaza?

And why do you refuse to answer the most relevant question of all: Would you rather be an Arab in Israel, or a Jew in ANY of the surrounding Arab nations....and why?

Why, in the debate we are currently in, do you refuse to produce casualty figures to support your contention that Israel has murdered many Arabs, and is involved in genocide? (Let me help: because you CAN'T)

When Israel unilaterally abandoned Gaza, forcibly removing their settlers.......with plans to do the same in the West Bank.....why did it become a launching point for attacks into Israel??

AND, most importantly of all, what is YOUR solution to the problem of war in the ME?
 

petros

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Still no comments on your trips to the mid east or CDN US arms sales to the evil surrounding nations?