I don't believe any party has any obligation. But certainly individual candidates ought to be straightforward when asked, and once in power to be consistent. If they are going to oppose abortion abroad, then oppose it at home with equal vigour.
Tory G8 abortion stance
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I don't believe any party has any obligation. But certainly individual candidates ought to be straightforward when asked, and once in power to be consistent. If they are going to oppose abortion abroad, then oppose it at home with equal vigour.
I guess my position is this - even if we did support abortions in 3rd world countries, would the tyrants there actually allow such abortions?? Would Canadian support for abortion really change things in other countries, especially where religion rules much more so than here? I dunno - I am all for personal choice but just because WE wish it to be, won't necessarily make it so...
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You seem to be stereotyping 'tyrants'. China is among the most pro-abortion countries in the world.
Or maybe because the MAJORITY believe it is just. Ditto the rights of gays & lesbians. Ditto the gun registry. Ditto a number of law and order issues. Ditto Immigration (note the number of recent deportations and hopefully more to come) with tougher rules to come, but still large numbers welcomed.
Ideally that would be the case. Unfortunately it doesn't work that way. Political campaigns include both positive and negative advertising. And negative advertising many times works. People may claim that they are put off by negative advertising, but they pay attention to it, and it is effective many times (but not always).
You know what?
I kind of agree with that statment, not sure why I should pay for someone to have a life destroyed as a form of birth control.
Except for rape, incest, severe retardation and health concerns for the Mother I don't want to pay a dime.
The position of Canada was (and that of USA, Britian and most other nations is) that it will support abortion where it is legal. I don't think any money is provided to try to change the laws in the country. But family planning money is given with no strings attached and may be used to promote awareness fo abortion where it is legal.
But Canada's money will be given only to prolife organizations, those who pledge not to support abortion in any way whatever. Harper has adopted the Fundamentalist Christian position.
But I wonder how Canada is going to enforce its ban on abortion. Is it going to plant spies among the various organizations and keep tab on them to see if they may be using Canadian money for family planning and use some fo their own money for abortion? Even this will be clearly against Canada's Fundamentalist Christian policy.
Or are they going to rely on the police in the third world countries to enforce its policy? Is it going to get into bed with the likes of Robert Mugabe and the North Korean dictator?
Abortion is considered a medical service and as such is covered by the Canada Health act.
As to you not wanting government to pay for abortions, we don’t get to pick and choose where our tax money should be spent. I am sure pacifists would like to see zero spending on defense, at least they don’t want their tax money spent on defense. Or Jehovah’s Witnesses may not want their tax money spent on blood banks, blood transfusion etc. Vegetarians may not want their tax money spent to promote consumption of meat or fish.
But as I said, we don’t get to cherry pick where our tax money is spent.
Well, I don’t. As individuals we are permitted a great deal of latitude, we may do as we wish. Thus if I decide I don’t want to associate with blacks, I am going to associate only with whites, that is my business. Or say I get estimates for some job I want done in my house. The lowest estimate is from a woman. But I think a woman incapable of the job just because she is a woman, it is a man’s job. So I give the job to a man who charges me more. That is still my business.
In our private life, we may behave in discriminatory manner, racist, sexist manner etc. A government cannot do that. And it is quite possible that as a result of the funding cut, Toronto may not be able to launch a promotion effort abroad and may lose out on revenue by the foreigners.
Harper is cutting off his nose (potentially losing revenue from abroad) to spite the gays. He will end up hurting local businesses, though no doubt his intent is to hurt gays.
Well, this Thread really isn't about Gay people, but abortion & its funding in
other countries for that countries citizens by Canadians through their Canadian
Tax Dollars.
What I was try'n to get at is, just 'cuz Canada isn't paying for something in
another nation, doesn't mean that Canada is against it....it means that
they're not paying for it. Canada isn't stopping any other country from
funding abortions elsewhere (from what I've gathered here), are we?
I don't suppose you'd like to post the stats supporting your claim, would you?
Which means, of course, that they are not really Catholics, since they are completely contradicting one of the important parts of Church doctrine.
Yup. Consistency is a sign of holding to your beliefs. One stands less chance of being a hypocrite that way, too.
Yes, we do, actually. EG, DUI's doesn't take effect until a person is 0.08 ml/l so that is an instance where the gov't has put a restriction on a law.
They could very easily restrict gov't funded abortions to those medical reasons, or instances of pregnancies from rape. Your mirror is getting in the way of your though processes, I think.
And beyond our shores is considered abroad. CANADA Health Act is a HOME policy.
I do, but you are you and the Con gov't is the Con gov't. Different balls of carbon-based units. lol We are talking about politicians here, you know.
