B.P.'s Gulf of Mexico Oil Spill Thread (it's all here).....

[TenPenny]

I'd like to know what the the drilling folk plan to do when the earth is sucked dry and we have created one environmental disaster after another.

Just curious.:-?

When the oil is all sucked out, the earth will stop spinning. The earth is essentially like a ball bearing, it rotates around a stationary core. The oil is what lubricates it and allows it to rotate.

As the oil is sucked out, the remaining oil will run hotter and hotter. Also, there will start to be more and more contact between the inner, stationary core, and the outer, rotating surface. As these two make contact, shock waves will result (ie, earthquakes).

If the motion stops gradually, we will experience signficant effects - one part of the earth will be permanent daylight, one part permanent night; this change will be a steady change, all of a sudden we'll find the days and nights becoming longer and longer, until we're stuck in one or the other. Only the areas that are permanently twilight or morning will be useful for growing crops, and even then, our ecology will be completely disrupted.

 

[EagleSmack]

I agree with moving against a welfare state, but let's be realistic. Very few people have the brains/willpower/starting capital to become really rich. Sure some can, but the majority can't.

Nobody ever said that each person should be rich and a business owner.

Even if they worked, they will only be making around minimum wage, and living like that is horrible.

My teenage son works in a donut shop and makes above minimum wage. That is a fallacy. Very few places even hire at minimum wage.

It is like living in squalor.

They live in squalor now for the most part. Inner cities are rife with crime. The welfare mentality perpetuates it. These programs give them just enough to exist and makes them dependent on government programs.

Government programs that help the poor out are fine, but I agree that just making them live on welfare and not work is no good.

Well that is what they do. They collect and watch TV all day.

True. But Republicans and Democrats neither seem to really help out the common man.

I agree with that.

 

[ironsides]

When the oil is all sucked out, the earth will stop spinning. The earth is essentially like a ball bearing, it rotates around a stationary core. The oil is what lubricates it and allows it to rotate.

As the oil is sucked out, the remaining oil will run hotter and hotter. Also, there will start to be more and more contact between the inner, stationary core, and the outer, rotating surface. As these two make contact, shock waves will result (ie, earthquakes).

If the motion stops gradually, we will experience signficant effects - one part of the earth will be permanent daylight, one part permanent night; this change will be a steady change, all of a sudden we'll find the days and nights becoming longer and longer, until we're stuck in one or the other. Only the areas that are permanently twilight or morning will be useful for growing crops, and even then, our ecology will be completely disrupted.

You have to write a book. :lol::lol::lol::lol:

 

[EagleSmack]

Obama may have opened up more areas for drilling (and I assume he will have second thoughts in view of the latest disaster). However, Republicans wanted to open up Alaskan wilderness for drilling, which was a contentious issue in the last election.

I doubt it.

Yes they did and there was an uproar. Now Obama has opened up more Alaskan coastal areas and...

<Insert Cricket Sounds Here>

There was a big uproar when Bush and Republicans wanted to open up Alaskan wilderness for drilling. If Republicans had their choice, Alaska would resemble Mordor today.

Move them goal posts joey!

So I guess the Democrats want the Virginian and Alaskan Coastal areas to look like Mordor.

 

[JLM]

When the oil is all sucked out, the earth will stop spinning. The earth is essentially like a ball bearing, it rotates around a stationary core. The oil is what lubricates it and allows it to rotate.

As the oil is sucked out, the remaining oil will run hotter and hotter. Also, there will start to be more and more contact between the inner, stationary core, and the outer, rotating surface. As these two make contact, shock waves will result (ie, earthquakes).

If the motion stops gradually, we will experience signficant effects - one part of the earth will be permanent daylight, one part permanent night; this change will be a steady change, all of a sudden we'll find the days and nights becoming longer and longer, until we're stuck in one or the other. Only the areas that are permanently twilight or morning will be useful for growing crops, and even then, our ecology will be completely disrupted.

I think someone has been bullsh*tting you.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

SirJosephPorter, according to you, anything that happened under the Bush Administration is Bush's fault.

Therefore, anything that happened, happens or will happen under the Obama Administration was, is and will be Obama's fault.

Unless, of course, it is Bush's fault.

Sure people will blame Obama for anything that happens under his watch. However, it is hardly his fault that BP caused the accident and shot a lot of oil in the ocean. Obama will be judged by how he handles the aftermath. Nobody will blame him for causing the accident (although there are Republican conspiracy nuts, who claim that Obama purposely caused the leak and that he wants it to cause as much damage as possible, so that he could then argue against offshore drilling).

Nobody blamed Bush for causing Katrina. Bush was blamed for his inept, bungling handling of the aftermath. so far Obama seems to be doing a good job of handling the aftermath.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

Move them goal posts joey!

So I guess the Democrats want the Virginian and Alaskan Coastal areas to look like Mordor.

How can you make a coastal area to look like Mordor by offshore drilling? That is nonsense.

What Bush and Republicans wanted to do was drill all over Alaska, put up oil rigs all over the state, which would have resembled Mordor. And all for six months oil supply. They were willing to destroy the natural beauty of the state for such a small amount of oil supply.

Offshore drilling is a different proposition, from what Republicans wanted to do to Alaska.

 

[TenPenny]

Offshore drilling is a different proposition, from what Republicans wanted to do to Alaska.

Indeed it is, as the Gulf of Mexico shows.

 

[YukonJack]

SirJosephPorter parroted the same old tired line:

"Nobody blamed Bush for causing Katrina. Bush was blamed for his inept, bungling handling of the aftermath. so far Obama seems to be doing a good job of handling the aftermath"

Of course, they blamed Bush. They do to this very day, while giving total free pass to the local governments, whose job it was to ask for Federal help.

They and you, SirJosephPorter are in the habit of forgetting that the Federal Government is not required to do a damn thing, unless the governor of the state asks for assistance. The silly bitch of a Democratic Governor (forgot her name) and the Democratic "chocolate city" mayor get absolutely no blame from you and your ilk.

You also give a total free pass to the racist mayor of New Orleans, who let hundreds of school busses sit idle, rather than use them for evacuation, while people died.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

SirJosephPorter parroted the same old tired line:

"Nobody blamed Bush for causing Katrina. Bush was blamed for his inept, bungling handling of the aftermath. so far Obama seems to be doing a good job of handling the aftermath"

Of course, they blamed Bush. They do to this very day, while giving total free pass to the local governments, whose job it was to ask for Federal help..

You are talking rubbish, YJ. Nobody blamed Bush for causing Katrina. Show me even one web reference where anybody blamed Bush for causing Katrina.

In this respect, ti is interesting to note that the former chief of FEMA (evidently he was fired by Bush for his inept handling of Katrina) made just such an accusation on FOX. He claimed that Obama caused the oil spill and Obama wants it to spread as widely as possible, cause as much damage as possible, so that he could then ban offshore drilling.

CNN held his feet to the fire, asked him what evidence he had that Obama has caused the oil spill, and that he wants it to spread as widely as possible. The poor fellow of course, could not produce any evidence.

But while some Republicans have blamed Obama for causing the oil spill, nobody blamed Bush for Katrina.

They and you, SirJosephPorter are in the habit of forgetting that the Federal Government is not required to do a damn thing, unless the governor of the state asks for assistance. The silly bitch of a Democratic Governor (forgot her name) and the Democratic "chocolate city" mayor get absolutely no blame from you and your ilk.

You also give a total free pass to the racist mayor of New Orleans, who let hundreds of school busses sit idle, rather than use them for evacuation, while people died.

Again, it is not only the liberals or the Democrats who blamed Bush for his inept handling of the aftermath of Katrina. Opinion polls show that a great majority of Americans blamed him. Only Bush acolytes thought that he had done a superb job.

 

[petros]

Drilling is not a political issue, it's a greed issue a problem equally as repugnant among all political parties.

It very much is a political issue considering the govt is basically an oil company.

 

[EagleSmack]

How can you make a coastal area to look like Mordor by offshore drilling? That is nonsense.

Fish in a barrell.

Too easy as always.

 

[Cliffy]

I thought "Drill Baby Drill" was the title of a porn movie.

 

[karrie]

I thought "Drill Baby Drill" was the title of a porn movie.

lol.

I assumed it was in reference to Obama's decision to open up new coastal areas to expand American offshore drilling.

Drill baby drill!

 

[Cliffy]

lol.

I assumed it was in reference to Obama's decision to open up new coastal areas to expand American offshore drilling.

Drill baby drill!

It's the new Battle Cry of the Republic.

 

[karrie]

It's the new Battle Cry of the Republic.

Of course it is. Because even those who scoff at the oil companies won't give up their plastic, won't give up their quads, won't give up their pickup trucks. They come up with stupid schemes like 'environmental offsetting' to try to justify continuing to burn petroleum at exorbitant rates, and then expect someone else to solve the supply and environmental issues associated with it. No one sitting on a computer right now has a right to turn their noses up at the industry, because I've never in my life heard of a computer that doesn't rely on petroleum. We create the supply, and would topple any government that doesn't meet demand, all the while pretending it has nothing to do with us, that we share no blame.

We yell the battle cry. No government can avoid rallying behind it.

 

[JLM]

" because I've never in my life heard of a computer that doesn't rely on petroleum."

Mine relies more on electricity..................LOL

 

[karrie]

" because I've never in my life heard of a computer that doesn't rely on petroleum."

Mine relies more on electricity..................LOL

and is made of wood? :lol:

 

[darkbeaver]

Of course it is. Because even those who scoff at the oil companies won't give up their plastic, won't give up their quads, won't give up their pickup trucks. They come up with stupid schemes like 'environmental offsetting' to try to justify continuing to burn petroleum at exorbitant rates, and then expect someone else to solve the supply and environmental issues associated with it. No one sitting on a computer right now has a right to turn their noses up at the industry, because I've never in my life heard of a computer that doesn't rely on petroleum. We create the supply, and would topple any government that doesn't meet demand, all the while pretending it has nothing to do with us, that we share no blame.

We yell the battle cry. No government can avoid rallying behind it.

I disagree, sure the money power comes from the consumer, but that power is atomized by numbers, like it always is with any commodity,it's at the cumulative end of the cash flow where gusher initiating valves are cranked open or closed by the energy demons where we get to the important humans who condense the gaseous consumer pennies into gold bricks. Controlling supply controls demand. Ninty-two percent or so of all traded products are connected to hydro-carbons and thereby its avilability. Cheap energy has never been the object of the bankers in fact they've done every despicable deed imaginable to make sure free energy never became reality. The business has always been about controlling power and who gets it. Governments do what they're purchased to do. If that were not the case the consumer would long ago have become the government. I can recall almost forty years of the rule of the oily bankers complete with a hundred different environmental charades and no deviation whatever on that stranglehold on power or its cost to humanity. We can't buy our way out of the power struggle with worthless paper money and seal hugging air heads. Celebrities don't save starving children, they make them. The power barons will never give up your labour, they will extract from the environment till it's is completely stripped, you and I are their environment, oil is just the most important transformer of labour into wealth. It's on tap for **** sake, how efficient is that? Tesla nuts know stuff like that. Thank you for the opportunity to rant and rave over lunch Karrie.:lol:

 

[Avro]

Fish in a barrell.

Too easy as always.

Who cares?

Only tree hugging left wing enviro-nazis.