Sixth Annual Israeli Apartheid Week

Are all human being entitled to fundamental human rights?

  • Yes, all people are entitled to food, clothing, shelter, medicine...

    Votes: 11 64.7%
  • No, only some people are entitled to human rights.

    Votes: 1 5.9%
  • Palestinians don't qualify as human beings.

    Votes: 5 29.4%

  • Total voters
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Colpy

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This website is fair and objective. It's main purpose is to focus on accurately reporting information regarding this conflict not commonly reported by Western Media.

So it is all true......6348 Palestinians killed, 1072 Israelis.

I guess the Palestinians shouldn't have launched the Second Intifada, huh????

Or elected Hamas.

Is it Israel's fault the Palestinians chose the path of war?????? Against the Israeli military????

In other words, is it Israel's fault Palestinians have behaved stupidly?
 

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Other than showing Stalin what we are capable of doing to a city full of civilians the purpose of Dresden was what?

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Then I reckon Stalin and the Soviets were showing the Western Allies what they could do as they raped (literally) their way across the cities in Eastern Europe and Germany.
 

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The report is balanced and objective. Justice Goldstone's team reported what they saw:

I recommend people get objective verifiable evidence regarding this conflict rather than relying on FoxNews for an opinion. This website is fair and objective. It's main purpose is to focus on accurately reporting information regarding this conflict not commonly reported by Western Media.

So Hammas punches Israel in the nose and whine about them retaliating by giving them a thorough butt kicking.
 

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Then I reckon Stalin and the Soviets were showing the Western Allies what they could do as they raped (literally) their way across the cities in Eastern Europe and Germany.
That was probably more for local consumption being as it almost gained speed after the official end of the war.
 

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That was probably more for local consumption being as it almost gained speed after the official end of the war.

Raping women by the tens of thousands by the Soviets should be considered "local consumption"?
 

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It certainly wasn't done to intimidate the West. He was getting rid of the 'opposition' the ones he just didn't want, take your pick, nobody from the rest of the world did anything meaningful to stop it.

Dresden was a refugee camp more or less.
 

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The Goldstone report was a report that was preordain with the result it came up with. Israel never had a chance getting a fair shake from. Its conclusions offered no workable solutions. What must be done is put a battalion of Canadian soldiers on the Gaza border and stay there regulating what gets in or out. Sort of a human barrier to protect the antagonists from each other.
 

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The report is balanced and objective. Justice Goldstone's team reported what they saw:

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...Israel

*1. Impact on civilians of rocket and mortar attacks by Palestinian
armed groups on southern Israel*
103. Palestinian armed groups have launched about *8000 rockets* and mortars into southern
Israel since 2001 (chap. XXIV). While communities such as* Sderot *and *Nir Am kibbutz* have
been within the range of rocket and mortar fire since the beginning,* the range of rocket fire
increased to nearly 40 kilometres from the Gaza border*, encompassing towns as far north as
Ashdod, during the Israeli military operations in Gaza.


#103 alone is reason enough for what Israel is doing. Palestinian civilians are supplying and supporting the various terrorist groups, therefore are active combatants in this war. Logic just says it is true, there are enough weapons in the area that the so called innocent civilians could take up arms and drive the terrorist out of their neighborhoods, even enlisting Israeli support if they were so inclined, but they do nothing or support organizations like Hamas.

104. Between 18 June 2008 and 18 January 2009, rockets fired by Palestinian armed groups in
Gaza have killed three civilians inside Israel and two civilians in Gaza when a rocket landed
short of the border on 26 December 2008. Reportedly, over 1000 civilians inside Israel were
physically injured as a result of rocket and mortar attacks, 918 of whom were injured during the
time of the Israeli military operations in Gaza.




105. The Mission has taken particular note of the high level of psychological trauma suffered
by the civilian population inside Israel. Data gathered by an Israeli organization in October 2007
found that 28.4 per cent of adults and 72–94 per cent of children in Sderot suffered from posttraumatic
stress disorder. During the military operations in Gaza 1596 people were reportedly
treated for stress-related injuries while afterwards over 500 people were treated.


106. Rockets and mortars have damaged houses, schools and cars in southern Israel. On 5
March 2009, a rocket struck a synagogue in Netivot. The rocket and mortar fire has adversely
affected the right to education of children and adults living in southern Israel....
...
eao: Both sides have committed war crimes

...
43. The Mission investigated 11 incidents in which the Israeli armed forces launched direct
attacks against civilians with lethal outcome (chap. XI). The facts in all bar one of the attacks
indicate no justifiable military objective. The first two are attacks on houses in the al-Samouni
neighbourhood south of Gaza City, including the shelling of a house in which Palestinian
civilians had been forced to assemble by the Israeli armed forces. The following group of seven
incidents concern the shooting of civilians while they were trying to leave their homes to walk to
a safer place, waving white flags and, in some of the cases, following an injunction from the
Israeli forces to do so. The facts gathered by the Mission indicate that all the attacks occurred
under circumstances in which the Israeli armed forces were in control of the area and had
previously entered into contact with or had at least observed the persons they subsequently
attacked, so that they must have been aware of their civilian status. In the majority of these
incidents, the consequences of the Israeli attacks against civilians were aggravated by their
subsequent refusal to allow the evacuation of the wounded or to permit access to ambulances...

...
48. Based on its investigation of incidents involving the use of certain weapons such as white
phosphorous and flechette missiles, the Mission, while accepting that white phosphorous is not at
this stage proscribed under international law, finds that the Israeli armed forces were
systematically reckless in determining its use in built-up areas. Moreover, doctors who treated
patients with white phosphorous wounds spoke about the severity and sometimes untreatable
nature of the burns caused by the substance. The Mission believes that serious consideration
should be given to banning the use of white phosphorous in built-up areas. As to flechettes, the
Mission notes that they are an area weapon incapable of discriminating between objectives after
detonation. They are, therefore, particularly unsuitable for use in urban settings where there is
reason to believe civilians may be present...
Napalm was acceptable at one time, then it was banned, white phosphorous is/was a very effective way to clear a area populated or not when you are being shot at. I am pretty sure that the Israeli soldiers didn't just randomly use it at a building because because it was there.
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520. On 15 January the UNRWA compound in Tal el-Hawa (Gaza City) was seriously
damaged when it was struck by white phosphorous. Between 600 and 700 civilians were
sheltering there at the time and were put in grave danger. The same day the nearby al-Quds
hospital was struck directly by a number of missiles, including white phosphorous shells, again
putting staff and patients in great danger (see sect. C below).


521. The day after the UNRWA compound was hit, John Ging repeated that what had
happened there had happened throughout Gaza. He said that the United Nations and the civilian
population were “all in the same boat” and that nobody could be said to be safe in Gaza.360
(c) The inference that those who did not go to the city centres must be combatants.

Everybody in Gaza especially the UN, knew Israel was coming, this was not a sneak attack, there was plenty of warning. I would therefore have come to the same conclusion Israel did. "(c) The inference that those who did not go to the city centres must be combatants.."


522. The warning to go to city centres came at the start of the ground invasion. In the Mission’s
view it was unreasonable to assume, (“Never assume, you’ll make an ass out of you and me”) in the circumstances, that civilians would indeed leave their
homes. As a consequence, the conclusion that allegedly formed part of the logic of soldiers on
the ground that those who had stayed put had to be combatants was wholly unwarranted.361
There are many reasons why people may not have responded. In several cases the Mission heard
from witnesses about people who were physically disabled, too frail or deaf so that it was
difficult or impossible to respond to the warning. In other cases, as outlined above, civilians who
could have responded may have had legitimate reasons not to do so...

http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/hrcouncil/docs/12session/A-HRC-12-48.pdf
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I recommend people get objective verifiable evidence regarding this conflict rather than relying on FoxNews for an opinion. This website is fair and objective. It's main purpose is to focus on accurately reporting information regarding this conflict not commonly reported by Western Media.



recommend people get objective verifiable evidence regarding this conflict rather than relying on FoxNews for an opinion. This website is fair and objective. It's main purpose is to focus on accurately reporting information regarding this conflict not commonly reported by Western Media. You think that by mentioning FOX news because of what people think about it changes anything. I have never quoted or used FOX news to make a point, only as a starting point for further investigation. What is this website you are referring to?

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*At least 6,348 Palestinians (http://www.ifamericansknew.org/stats/deaths.html#source) and 1,072 Israelis (http://www.ifamericansknew.org/stats/deaths.html#source)
have been killed since September 29, 2000.* By that statement you only proved that the Israelis shoots better, and does not use its people as human weapon delivery systems.

Image: http://www.ifamericansknew.org/images/deaths.gif American news reports repeatedly describe Israeli military attacks against the Palestinian population as “retaliation.” However, when one looks into the chronology of death in this conflict, the reality turns out to be quite different. Just an other statement by those who know nothing, the Mission and Palestinian groups to try and make Israel look like the bad guys.

If Americans Knew - what every American needs to know about Israel/Palestine (http://www.ifamericansknew.org/) Yes a real unbiased site for Israel to go get help.

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The Goldstone reporters did phone polls with the Palestinians?? Just how gullable to you think we are. That statement alone is enough to invalidate the report.
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164. The Mission gathered first-hand information with regard to the situation in Israel and in
the West Bank by conducting telephone interviewees with victims, community representatives,
local authorities, members of NGOs and experts; by hearing testimonies from victims, witnesses
and experts from Israel and from the West Bank at the public hearings in Geneva; and by holding
meetings and private interviews both in Amman and in Geneva.

So Israel didn't cooperate with the commission, why should they have? Not once since their independence did the U.N. ever treat them fair in their so called courts. This report you posted is very bias. They couldn't Deny that the Palestinians never shot rockets into populated areas, and yes Israel retaliated as any country having it sovereignty threatened would.
 

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So Israel didn't cooperate with the commission, why should they have? Not once since their independence did the U.N. ever treat them fair in their so called courts. This report you posted is very bias. They couldn't Deny that the Palestinians never shot rockets into populated areas, and yes Israel retaliated as any country having it sovereignty threatened would.
Israel did cooperate, and they still are. So far they have submitted two papers and that only addresses some of the complaints. The follow-up paper the UN commissioned reported back on some of the complaints standing after reviewing Israel's two reports rules on some things. The ones not dismissed are going to be investigated further, I would assume Hamas will be submitting similar papers since Israel made some complaints against their actions in their reports.
They should have been before the courts for deeds done in the 5 months prior to that date in May'48. There are no Court cases, The one the Gov lost in their own courts has yet to be enforced by the courts some 5 years later. How much fairer do you want a Court to treat them. Below is a list that never made it as far as 'Court', perhaps you can give me the list for the ones that did make it into 'Court'.

UN resolutions Israel has not complied with
Peace Proposals
While Bush ibn Bush uses the fact that Saddam Hussein has not complied with UN resolutions as an excuse to launch his ``pre-emptive" war, here is a list of dozens of UN resolutions that Israel has not complied with. These should be included when you send emails and faxes to your congressional representatives to oppose Bush's war on Iraq. Now's the time to act. The vote is coming soon.
UN Resolutions Against Israel, 1955-1992

1. Resolution 106: "... 'Condemns' Israel for Gaza raid"

2. Resolution 111: "...'condemns' Israel for raid on Syria that killed fifty-six people"
3. Resolution 127: "...'recommends' Israel suspend its 'no-man's zone' in Jerusalem"
4. Resolution 162: "...'urges' Israel to comply with UN decisions"
5. Resolution 171: "...determines flagrant violations' by Israel in its attack on Syria"
6. Resolution 228: "...'censures' Israel for its attack on Samu in the West Bank, then under Jordanian control"
7. Resolution 237: "...'urges' Israel to allow return of new 1967 Palestinian refugees"
8. Resolution 248: "...'condemns' Israel for its massive attack on Karameh in Jordan"
9. Resolution 250: "... 'Calls' on Israel to refrain from holding military parade in Jerusalem"
10. Resolution 251: "... 'Deeply deplores' Israeli military parade in Jerusalem in defiance of Resolution 250"
11. Resolution 252: "...'declares invalid' Israel's acts to unify Jerusalem as Jewish capital"
12. Resolution 256: "... 'Condemns' Israeli raids on Jordan as 'flagrant violation"
13. Resolution 259: "...'deplores' Israel's refusal to accept UN mission to probe occupation"
14. Resolution 262: "...'condemns' Israel for attack on Beirut airport"
15. Resolution 265: "... 'Condemns' Israel for air attacks for Salt in Jordan"
16. Resolution 267: "...'censures' Israel for administrative acts to change the status of Jerusalem"
17. Resolution 270: "...'condemns' Israel for air attacks on villages in southern Lebanon"
18. Resolution 271: "...'condemns' Israel's failure to obey UN resolutions on Jerusalem"
19. Resolution 279: "...'demands' withdrawal of Israeli forces from Lebanon"
20. Resolution 280: "....'condemns' Israeli's attacks against Lebanon"
21. Resolution 285: "...'demands' immediate Israeli withdrawal form Lebanon"
22. Resolution 298: "...'deplores' Israel's changing of the status of Jerusalem"
23. Resolution 313: "...'demands' that Israel stop attacks against Lebanon"
24. Resolution 316: "...'condemns' Israel for repeated attacks on Lebanon"
25. Resolution 317: "...'deplores' Israel's refusal to release Arabs abducted in Lebanon"
26. Resolution 332: "...'condemns' Israel's repeated attacks against Lebanon"
27. Resolution 337: "...'condemns' Israel for violating Lebanon's sovereignty"
28. Resolution 347: "...'condemns' Israeli attacks on Lebanon"

29. Resolution 425: "...'calls' on Israel to withdraw its forces from Lebanon"
30. Resolution 427: "...'calls' on Israel to complete its withdrawal from Lebanon'
31. Resolution 444: "...'deplores' Israel's lack of cooperation with UN peacekeeping forces"
32. Resolution 446: "...'determines' that Israeli settlements are a 'serious obstruction' to peace and calls on Israel to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention"
33. Resolution 450: "...'calls' on Israel to stop attacking Lebanon"
34. Resolution 452: "...'calls' on Israel to cease building settlements in occupied territories"
35. Resolution 465: "...'deplores' Israel's settlements and asks all member states not to assist Israel's settlements program"
36. Resolution 467: "...'strongly deplores' Israel's military intervention in Lebanon"
37. Resolution 468: "...'calls' on Israel to rescind illegal expulsions of two Palestinian mayors and a judge and to facilitate their return"
38. Resolution 469: "...'strongly deplores' Israel's failure to observe the council's order not to deport Palestinians" 39. Resolution 471: "... 'Expresses deep concern' at Israel's failure to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention"
40. Resolution 476: "... 'Reiterates' that Israel's claims to Jerusalem are 'null and void'
41. Resolution 478: "...'censures (Israel) in the strongest terms' for its claim to Jerusalem in its 'Basic Law'
42. Resolution 484: "...'declares it imperative' that Israel re-admit two deported Palestinian mayors"
43. Resolution 487: "...'strongly condemns' Israel for its attack on Iraq's nuclear facility"
44. Resolution 497: "...'decides' that Israel's annexation of Syria's Golan Heights is 'null and void' and demands that Israel rescind its decision forthwith"
45. Resolution 498: "...'calls' on Israel to withdraw from Lebanon"
46. Resolution 501: "...'calls' on Israel to stop attacks against Lebanon and withdraw its troops"
47. Resolution 509: "...'demands' that Israel withdraw its forces forthwith and unconditionally from Lebanon"
48. Resolution 515: "...'demands' that Israel lift its siege of Beirut and allow food supplies to be brought in"
49. Resolution 517: "...'censures' Israel for failing to obey UN resolutions and demands that Israel withdraw its forces from Lebanon"
50. Resolution 518: "...'demands' that Israel cooperate fully with UN forces in Lebanon"
51. Resolution 520: "...'condemns' Israel's attack into West Beirut"
52. Resolution 573: "...'condemns' Israel 'vigorously' for bombing Tunisia in attack on PLO headquarters
53. Resolution 587: "...'takes note' of previous calls on Israel to withdraw its forces from Lebanon and urges all parties to withdraw"
54. Resolution 592: "...'strongly deplores' the killing of Palestinian students at Bir Zeit University by Israeli troops" 55. Resolution 605: "...'strongly deplores' Israel's policies and practices denying the human rights of Palestinians
56. Resolution 607: "...'calls' on Israel not to deport Palestinians and strongly requests it to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention
57. Resolution 608: "...'deeply regrets' that Israel has defied the United Nations and deported Palestinian civilians"
58. Resolution 636: "...'deeply regrets' Israeli deportation of Palestinian civilians
59. Resolution 641: "...'deplores' Israel's continuing deportation of Palestinians
60. Resolution 672: "...'condemns' Israel for violence against Palestinians at the Haram al-Sharif/Temple Mount
61. Resolution 673: "...'deplores' Israel's refusal to cooperate with the United Nations
62. Resolution 681: "...'deplores' Israel's resumption of the deportation of Palestinians
63. Resolution 694: "...'deplores' Israel's deportation of Palestinians and calls on it to ensure their safe and immediate return
64. Resolution 726: "...'strongly condemns' Israel's deportation of Palestinians
65. Resolution 799: "...'strongly condemns' Israel's deportation of 413 Palestinians and calls for their immediate return.
 

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Searched for: "UN resolutions palestine has not complied with"


All I got back was:
  1. UN resolutions Israel has not complied with



    While Bush ibn Bush uses the fact that Saddam Hussein has not complied with UN resolutions as an excuse to launch his ``pre-emptive" war, here is ...
    www.jerusalemites.org/facts_documents/un/22.htm - Cached
  2. Jeusalemites, UN Resolutions and Palestine



    Resolution adopted by the General Assembly on Safety of the elected President of ... UN resolutions Israel has not complied with. UN exposes Israel's strangulation of ...
    www.jerusalemites.org/facts_documents/un/index.htm - Cached
  3. Is it true that Israel is in violation of UN resolutions?



    Palestine Facts is a review of the historical, political and military facts behind the State of Israel and the Israeli-Arab Palestinian conflict.
    www.palestinefacts.org/pf_faq_palestine_un_resolutions.php - Cached
  4. UN Resolutions Supporting these Positions



    Resolution 162: urges Israel to comply with UN decisions. Resolution 171: determines ... Resolution 608: deeply regrets that Israel has defied the United ...
    www.jatonyc.org/UNresolutions.html - Cached
  5. A list of UN Resolutions against "Israel"



    Here is a list of UN resolutions that Israel has not complied with, far more than Iraq. Note that she has also illegally developed nuclear weapons. ...
    www.uscrusade.com/forum/config.pl/noframes/read/1372 - Cached
  6. United Nations Resolutions



    Since the first resolution adopted by the United Nations in 1947, Israel has consistently sought to live in peace with its Arab neighbors. ...
    www.mythsandfacts.com/Conflict/10/UN_resolutions.htm - Cached
There are more, just like this, all accusing Israel of one thing or another. As I have said, Israel CANNOT receive a fair and unbiased judgment of their actions. The lack of does not mean there were none.
 

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Then perhaps she should stop doing things like the ones listed.
BTW all those things listed resulted in no action taken against them at all, of any kind, if anything their donations of war equipment increased.
 

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Then perhaps she should stop doing things like the ones listed.
BTW all those things listed resulted in no action taken against them at all, of any kind, if anything their donations of war equipment increased.

Absolutely!!

Why?

Because relatively, in the area of democracy and human rights, Israel stands head and shoulders above any of the surrounding Arab neighbours that seek to destroy her.

And THAT is what the Israel-haters simply can't deal with.
 

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Colpy I meant Israel should stop doing things that get them mentioned at the UN. It would seem that the more resolutions against you there are, the more inhumane you are.
Go ahead supply a list for all the 'bad' countries.
 

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I have nothing against Israelis. I am against apartheid, war crimes and crimes against humanity.

As soon as Israel grants all people under their control (including the occupied territories) the same rights and freedoms, stops using food and medicine as a weapon, stops murdering innocent people, stops using chemical weapons and weapons which kill people indiscriminately against civilians, releases thousands of civilian hostages and political prisoners, stops ethnic cleansing... and basically starts respecting international laws, treaties and conventions, then they'll have my full support.

Until then, I'll continue to criticize Canada's unshakable support for Israeli war crimes and crimes against humanity.

In the meantime, the long-term looks bad for Israel. The US continues its downward spiral and is on the brink of economic collapse. Israel is surrounded by enemies which grow in strength and numbers. Current trends are unsustainable, and will inevitably lead to Israel's destruction. Their only chance at survival is finding an immediate fair and just peace with Palestinians as desired by a majority of Israelis and Palestinians. Unfortunately Israel's leaders are motivated by greed and lust for power and are too short sighted to realize the inevitable. They have no interest in peace and will continue their ethnic cleansing in order to achieve a pure Jewish state. They may as well paint a Bull's eye on Tel Aviv.

I wish Israelis no harm, but I can't see how these people will not suffer as a result of the coming apocalypse. I support opening up Canada to both Israeli and Palestinian immigration. Anyone living within Israel and the occupied territories with no criminal record and a means to contribute to Canada's economy should be welcomed as immigrants provided they promise to leave their animosity behind. Israel's collapse will be sudden and unanticipated. Therefore Canada should put policies in place now to deal with the coming crisis. When Israelis decide to flee to Canada enmasse, they should not be impeded by Canadian bureaucracy.

B. Detention and abuse of AD/02
1123. AD/02 was interviewed by the Mission on 1 July 2009. He is a resident of Beit Lahia and
a businessman. He was detained on 4 January 2009 for around 85 days. In that period he was
held in Beersheba and Negev prisons, after being detained in locations identified as military
posts. He was mentally and physically abused. He appeared before what appeared to be a
criminal court, but the precise nature of the proceedings and their results were never made clear
to him. He was released without explanation and returned to the Erez border and told to re-enter
Gaza.
1124. By 3 January AD/02 and his extended family, numbering over 200, had gathered together
in Beit Lahia as a result of the attacks that were taking place in the area. At around 4 a.m. on 4
January Israeli troops entered the area shooting. They ordered everyone out of the house and
separated the men from the women and children. They selected 15 of the men, without asking for
names. The women and children were ordered to go south. AD/02 recounted that the 15 men,
including him, were separated from the other men and were blindfolded and handcuffed with
plastic strips.554 They were taken on foot to an open space half a kilometre away. An hour later,
they were taken to a house where they were joined by an estimated 54 or 55 people, who
apparently also wore blindfolds.
1125. AD/02 described how they were interrogated in a separate room, individually and at
times in groups of two or three. He stated that some of the men, though not him, were beaten
during the interrogation and were made to clamber down into trenches or pits, dug in the ground
outside the house, big enough to accommodate one person. They were kept in the pits for several
hours at a time, handcuffed and blindfolded, with no access to toilets.
1126. Later that night, 15 people – four women and at least 11 children – were brought to the
house. They were detained overnight in the corridor outside the room where the men were
detained. The next morning, on 4 January, the men, women and children were taken out of the
house to an open space. The men remained blindfolded and handcuffed. AD/02 stated that the
open space was a military post with many tanks and soldiers. They were all told to sit in the
middle of the empty space. A fence of barbed wire was then erected around them. They sat
within the barbed enclosure all day and all night in close proximity to the movement and sound
of military tanks.
1127. AD/02 stated that 18 to 20 other men were held overnight in an open truck, exposed to
the cold and rain. AD/02 knew this from talking to some of the men the following morning.555
1128. On 5 January, 18 to 20 men, not including AD/02, were taken from the military post to an
unknown location.556 AD/02 and 35 others were taken to an area described by him as located
north of Gaza City and in Israel. They remained handcuffed and blindfolded for an hour and a
half. Then a roll-call was taken, their blindfolds removed and they were interrogated by a person
who identified himself as an intelligence officer. Shortly afterwards, AD/02 and a few others
(exact number not known) were interviewed by a group of people identifying themselves as part
of a television crew. AD/02 does not know the name and/or details of the television channel.
They were then led to an open space, where they stayed all evening exposed to the rain and cold.
Later that night (5–6 January) they were blindfolded and shackled with chains and taken to a
location which AD/02 subsequently learned was the Beersheba prison facility. A few hours later,
at dawn, their blindfolds and handcuffs were removed.
1129. AD/02 recounted that he was in extreme pain as the handcuffs were very tight, adding to
the pain caused by pre-existing injuries to his hands and wrist. Earlier in his life, he had suffered
serious burns and the scarring on his hands and arms is evident. There is continued nerve damage
to the skin tissue which causes significant pain in cold weather. His gloves were taken away by
soldiers during an interrogation, exposing his hands to the extreme cold. His requests for medical
assistance were ignored several times before his arrival in Beersheba, where he was given access
to a doctor. He was, however, given only a non-medicated lotion.
1130. AD/02 stated that he was detained in Beersheba for approximately a week. He was
intermittently kept in isolation and then in a courtyard with several other detainees. In one
instance, he was blindfolded, handcuffed and shackled, and interrogated for approximately two
hours by three people. He was verbally abused and beaten during the interrogation, his hair was
pulled and he was kicked with one of the interrogators attempting to push his boots through the
loop of the handcuffs tied around his wrists.
1131. On or around 13 January, pursuant to an interrogation by a person dressed in civilian
clothes, AD/02 was blindfolded and handcuffed and taken to the Negev prison. He remained
there until the end of March. During this time he was transferred at least 10 times from one cell
to another.
1132. On arrival his handcuffs were removed and he was taken to a ward, which consisted of
small one-man cells with iron doors and no windows. The cells each contained an iron bench.
Two hours later, he was blindfolded and taken to an interrogation room, where he was stripped
and made to stand alone, naked, for almost an hour before his clothes were returned and he was
handcuffed and shackled. He was taken by four people to another room, where he was beaten
with the butt of a rifle while also being kicked and punched several times. The beating lasted for
about 30 minutes. He was then left alone in the room for about 2 hours. He was then taken to a
large communal space referred by the soldiers as the “tents.” There were seven or eight such
spaces or tents spread across the prison.
1133. AD/02 said that he was unable to stand owing to the severe injuries sustained during the
beatings and had to be carried to the tents. He was taken to a doctor, given some medicines and
allowed to take a shower. AD/02 stated that he stayed in the tent area for about a week before
being transferred to a cell occupied by four people. The cell had an iron bed and a bunk bed.
Two people including AD/02 slept on the floor. The cell was dark and filthy. There was no clean
water and no toilet. During the entire week the men had to relieve themselves in the cell, which
was never cleaned.
1134. AD/02 remained in the cell for about one week. At some time during this period he was
taken, blindfolded, handcuffed and shackled, by bus to what appeared to be a court. On arrival,
his handcuffs and blindfold were removed. He remained shackled when he was taken inside the
courtroom. The courtroom had a standard layout with the judge seated behind a table in the
centre of the room. The prosecution was on one side and the defence on the other. They were all
dressed in civilian clothes. Once inside the courtroom, AD/02 was made to sign a consent form,
accepting the lawyer reportedly appointed to defend him. Although the lawyer identified himself
as belonging to a human rights organization, he gave no name. As the proceedings began, the
judge addressed AD/02 and read out the charge against him. The judge announced that he was
being charged with being an illegal combatant but did not explain specific charges. AD/02 was
asked no questions. When the defence lawyer asked for the charge to be elaborated, the judge
replied that the charges were part of a secret dossier and could not be elaborated upon or
revealed. The proceeding lasted about 30 minutes and AD/02 was taken back to Negev.
1135. A week later, around or on 28 January, AD/02 was transferred to another section of the
prison, where roll-calls and strip searches were carried out regularly. Some 8 to 10 days later,
around 7 February, he and 14 others, were moved to a larger ward with prisoners from the West
Bank. The ICRC was given access to them.
1136. On 8 February, AD/02 was transferred, twice, to another section of the prison and shortly
afterwards to the cell where he had first been detained on arrival at Negev. On 9 February, at
around noon, he and several others were transferred, for the ninth time, to another section of the
prison occupied by a large number of prisoners, including those from the West Bank. AD/02
indicated that several of them were parliamentarians. He remained in this section for
approximately 20 days. During this time he three times met a person who identified himself as a
lawyer. He was informed of the charges against him, which included membership and
involvement with the resistance.
1137. On 2 March, he was transferred with 10 others to yet another section of the prison. They
were put in two rooms, five in each room. The rooms had graffiti on the wall that read illegal
combatants in English and in Hebrew. They had limited access to toilets and were given
uncooked food to eat.
1138. Around 29–30 March, AD/02 was finally released. He and his brother, a cousin and two
other residents of Izbat Abd Rabbo were blindfolded and handcuffed and taken to the Erez
border, where they were interrogated for approximately four hours. They were then told to cross
the border and not look back. They were given no explanation about either their detention or
their release.
C. AD/03
1139. AD/03 is a resident of al-Salam neighbourhood, east of Jabaliyah and close to the eastern
border with Israel. His arrest and detention were preceded by aerial attacks and a ground
invasion in his neighbourhood. His house was struck several times, over a period of five days, by
projectiles fired from F-16 aircraft. The attacks continued throughout the night when most
people were asleep.557 As a result of the continued attacks, he sought refuge in a relative’s house
nearby.

1140. AD/03 stated that, although the area could be considered as a frontline where armed
groups had been present, the neighbourhood could not reasonably have been perceived as a
military threat by the time the Israeli armed forces arrived on the ground. There was no
resistance going on in the neighbourhood when it was targeted. If the intent of the attacks was to
destroy alleged command centres, positions or weapons caches of Hamas, he felt that those
positions would have been destroyed in the first few attacks on the neighbourhood given the
intensity of the shelling.
1141. On 8 January, at around 11.30 a.m., the house where AD/03 was seeking refuge was
struck by a missile so he decided to return to his own house. He described how Israeli soldiers
fired at them, including women and children carrying white flags, when they tried to leave his
cousin’s house. His father’s wife sustained a bullet injury to her leg. Thirty minutes later, around
noon, the Israeli armed forces ordered all residents to evacuate their homes and come out in the
street. The men were separated from the women and children, and told to line up against a wall,
lift their shirts and strip to their underwear. They remained stripped and lined up against the wall
for approximately 15 minutes. The men, women and children were then told to walk down the
street.
1142. AD/03 recounted that the street was blocked with large piles of heavy rubble and debris
of bulldozed buildings, which provided a difficult obstacle for several people, including children
and elderly people. They walked 200-250 metres before arriving at a house. Two hours later the
women and children were told to go to Jabaliyah. Shortly afterwards, AD/03, his brother, cousin
and an unknown man were taken to another room, where they were forced to lie on the ground.
They were then blindfolded and their hands were tied behind their backs with plastic strips. They
were interrogated individually for several hours. Later that evening, they were made to walk
about 100 metres eastward to another house. They were detained overnight in a room, together
with three others, who identified themselves as residents of Abd Rabbo. They had no access to
food, water or toilets. The next morning, on 9 January, their blindfolds were removed and all
seven were interrogated, individually, by one soldier.

1143. AD/03 stated that the house was being used as a military base and sniper position. On the
second day of detention the Israeli soldiers began to use some detainees as human shields. By
then the detainees had been without food and sleep for a day. They had been subjected to what
AD/03 described as psychological torture. There were constant death threats and insults. To
carry out house searches as human shields the Israeli soldiers took off AD/03’s blindfold but he
remained handcuffed. He was forced to walk in front of the soldiers and told that, if he saw
someone in the house but failed to tell them, he would be killed. He was instructed to search
each room in each house cupboard by cupboard. After one house was completed he was taken to
another house with a gun pressed against his head and told to carry out the same procedure there.
He was punched, slapped and insulted throughout the process.
1144. AD/03 indicated that he was forced to do this twice while the group was being held in
this house for eight days. Others were also required to do the same thing. On the first occasion he
was forced to carry out searches in three houses and on the second in four. AD/03 estimates that
these searches took between one hour and one hour and a half. At no point did he come across
any explosive devices or armed group members.
1145. AD/03 stated that, at the end of every search, the houses were vandalized by the Israeli
soldiers, who broke doors, windows, kitchenware and furniture, for instance.558
1146. At the end of the day he was taken back to the house, where he and six others continued
to be detained for 8 days, until 16 January. They had limited access to food and water and were
often denied access to toilets. They were told that their ordeal would continue indefinitely. One
soldier reportedly told them that the soldiers were “following instructions issued by the chain of
command.”
1147. For the first time the detainees were asked for proof of identity. AD/03 said that their
identification documents were thoroughly inspected. Had they revealed anything in relation to
militant activities, he believed they would have been killed.

1148. On 16 January they were handcuffed, with plastic strips tied very tightly around their
wrists, made to stand in a single file, blindfolded and told to hold on to the shirt of the person
standing in front of them. They were made to walk towards a military tank positioned very close
to the house where they had been detained and told to sit on top of each other inside the tank.
The tank drove on a bumpy track and over big boulders causing them to frequently slam against
the sides of the tank. About three hours later it stopped in an unknown location. On arrival, they
were asked to clamber down into holes or pits about three to four metres deep. AD/03 stated that
they were in a military post, as they heard the voices of several soldiers laughing and joking
noisily. They remained blindfolded and handcuffed and exposed to the continued sound of tank
movement overhead. They remained in the pit for about one hour and were then made to sit
inside a tank that moved in circles.
1149. Shortly afterwards, their handcuffs were removed and they were shackled with chains
inside a bus. They were accompanied by soldiers who spoke Hebrew. On arrival, they were
searched and then interrogated for eight hours before being taken to the military barracks in
Beersheba. Then they were made to line against the wall before being asked to strip naked. They
were made to stand, blindfolded, naked and exposed to the cold winds, for about three or four
hours.
1150. On 19 January, eight people, including AD/03, his brother and one other man from the
group of seven who were taken to Beersheba on 16 January, were shackled inside the bus, made
to bend forward and keep their heads down, between their knees, and were taken to Negev
prison, a journey that lasted approximately four hours. During this journey they were
continuously beaten, kicked and punched by four or five soldiers on board. According to AD/03,
the detainees sustained serious injuries and were bleeding, two bleeding more profusely than the
others. Two detainees reportedly even fainted. He stated that soldiers on board made constant
reference to shackling practices in the Russian Federation, leading AD/03 to believe that the
soldiers were from there.
1151. On arrival at Negev, they were severely beaten by the prison security for approximately
one and a half hours before being put into cells and told that they were caught during battle and
were illegal combatants. Later that night, 10 more people joined the group of detainees.

1152. AD/03 described how on the second day of their incarceration, 20 January, the detainees
(at this point 18 in number) were told that they would be interrogated in accordance with their
alleged political affiliations. Several of them pointed out that they had none. They were grouped
apart. AD/03 said that they talked among themselves and he found out that nine of them were
livestock farmers and three or four were merchants and traders.
1153. AD/03 described how the detainees were divided into two groups of nine each and put in
a section of the prison referred to as the mardaban, which was divided into two wards containing
10 iron beds each and guarded by Israeli Arab soldiers. They remained incarcerated for eight
days, until 27 January, with limited access to food, water, toilets and physical exercise.
1154. On 24 January, AD/03 was given access to a lawyer, affiliated with Addameer, Prisoners
Support and Human Rights Association,559 for the first and only time. The Mission interviewed
him560 and he confirmed that he had visited AD/03 and his brother on 25 January 2009. The
lawyer’s evidence provided corroboration of the detention of AD/03 and his brother (who was
also assisted by the lawyer), and the conditions under which he was subjected to criminal
proceedings in Israel. The lawyer was informed by the Israeli authorities that AD/03 was
detained under the illegal combatant law but he was not given the dossier to review. His brother
was never formally charged.
1155. On 25 January, the detainees were told that they would be taken to Beersheba for their
trial. On 26 January, all 18 detainees were shackled with iron chains to iron benches in a bus,
handcuffed with iron handcuffs and taken to Beersheba. They were not blindfolded. The journey
lasted five hours during which the bus drove on bumpy roads causing the detainees to slam
against the sides of the bus. They were detained in Beersheba overnight in overcrowded cells
together with people convicted of serious offences, according to AD/03. They were mostly
Israeli Jews.
559

1162. The Mission found the witnesses credible and reliable taking into account their
demeanour and the consistency of their statements. At least one of them was still suffering
considerable anguish because of the treatment he had endured at the hands of the Israeli soldiers
and other officials. The Mission notes that there are several common features to these incidents
that disclose a pattern of behaviour on the part of the Israeli soldiers, indicating that the treatment
meted out to the persons deposing before the Mission were not isolated incidents. The facts
available to the Mission indicate that:
• All three locations were near the border with Israel;
• Before the arrival of ground troops, all three had been under aerial or ground attack. The
soldiers on the ground were in complete control of the area at the time of their encounter
with the civilians;
• There was no combat activity by the persons reporting, nor any likelihood of such
activity being under way in the area or nearby at the time that the soldiers started the
operation against civilians in the three locations. None of the civilians was armed or
posed any apparent threat to the soldiers. In two of the incidents they were holding white
flags as a sign of their non-combatant status;
• It is clear in two of the incidents that none of those detained had been asked for their
names by the soldiers for several days. This establishes that there was no definite
suspicion against them that they were combatants or otherwise engaged in hostile
activities;
• In all cases a number of persons were herded together and detained in open spaces for
several hours at a time and exposed to extreme weather conditions;
• The soldiers deliberately subjected civilians, including women and children, to cruel,
inhuman and degrading treatment throughout their ordeal in order to terrorize, intimidate
and humiliate them. The men were made to strip, sometimes naked, at different stages of
their detention. All the men were handcuffed in a most painful manner and blindfolded,
increasing their sense of fear and helplessness;
• Men, women and children were held close to artillery and tank positions, where constant
shelling and firing was taking place, thus not only exposing them to danger, but
increasing their fear and terror. This was deliberate, as is apparent from the fact that the
sandpits to which they were taken were specially prepared and surrounded by barbed
wire;
• During their detention in the Gaza Strip, whether in the open or in houses, the detainees
were subjected to beatings and other physical abuse that amounts to torture. This
continued systematically throughout their detention;
• Civilians were used as human shields by the Israeli armed forces on more than one
occasion in one of the three incidents. Taking account of other incidents in which the
Mission has found this to have happened, it would not be difficult to conclude that this
was a practice repeatedly adopted by the Israeli armed forces during the military
operation in Gaza;
• Many civilians were transferred across the border to Israel and detained in open spaces as
well as in prisons;
• The methods of interrogation amounted not only to torture in some of the cases, but also
to physical and moral coercion of civilians to obtain information;
• These persons were subjected to torture, maltreatment and foul conditions in the prisons.
They were deprived of food and water for several hours at a time and any food they did
receive was inadequate and inedible;
• While in detention in Israel they were denied due process.

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