Sixth Annual Israeli Apartheid Week

Are all human being entitled to fundamental human rights?

  • Yes, all people are entitled to food, clothing, shelter, medicine...

    Votes: 11 64.7%
  • No, only some people are entitled to human rights.

    Votes: 1 5.9%
  • Palestinians don't qualify as human beings.

    Votes: 5 29.4%

  • Total voters
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Goober

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That is because they are not globe-trotting assassins. Event take events from June of '08, ceasefire agreements in place, there is a marked difference in rockets coming out of Gaza yet Israel lived up to nothing it agreed to do. Then it blamed operation cast lead on incidents that happened after they made a night raid into Gaza that resulted in 5 deaths. A tunnel needs a place to come up , they could have destroyed it from that end (Israeli territory, if there even was one). No deaths to either side and very few rockets (same as unruly Israeli settlers) in Nov and Dec would have made that long planned operation a no-go.
The Hamas that opened fire on the Israeli troops that night in Nov 08 were not doing anything 'wrong' Israel was in the wrong spot. Agree to that and I might hold out hope for you being 'impartial'.


MHZ

Couple of questions

Israeli Military note Hamas setting up a mortar/rocket position - What should the Isreali Militray response be - consider that this position in not near any civilians or critical infrastructure

Hamas kidnaps 2 or 3 or more Israeli Soldiers - What would the reaction be within Israel public & govt- Please include those Israeli's that believe in a 2 state solution.

What action would be taken by the Israeli Military?
 

MHz

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Last but not least - Is he a Racist - Yes - Partly - But only Jews - Why they are his fixation I cannot explain without more information -

So Yes he qualifies as a racist but only against Jews - As was noted during WW2 many Jews went to extreme lengths to hide their religion - and for good reason -

He does somewhat like or tolerates Jews that agree with his positions - But he fits the criteria as a racist
Did your own Doc read the Goldstone report, a Jewish perspective on the current trend of Jewish activities in and around their 'new home'? Now submit that report to your shrink and come back when she/he/it replies.

You might want to include how many times you have posted just to EAO and even sometimes talk about him even in posts to other people. That is like complaining to your mate (he/she/it) about your mistress (he/she/it).

Questioning the Jewish pregnant hockey stick was theory only one part of why I support the Palestinian civilians. Thier land was stolen from them, doesn't matter how you try to disguise that fact it doesn't change that it is a fact. The motives for some of the 33 countries could have been 'influenced' by more powerful Nations. Haiti would never vote for a poor people to lose their freedom to the Nations with money.
 

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MHZ

Couple of questions

Israeli Military note Hamas setting up a mortar/rocket position - What should the Isreali Militray response be - consider that this position in not near any civilians or critical infrastructure

Hamas kidnaps 2 or 3 or more Israeli Soldiers - What would the reaction be within Israel public & govt- Please include those Israeli's that believe in a 2 state solution.

What action would be taken by the Israeli Military?

Call the cops and give them the address. Return question, why could the IDF have not requested that Hamas inspect that building (in the day-light)for tunnel activity while there was an IDF officer present and the whole affair is recorded rather than try a night raid that got blotched by the IDF, resulting in a dead member of their own forces. How about the IDF sneaking around Gaza in the middle of the night just so they would be shot at and that would give them the justification to call in the jets.

You didn't specify where they were when they got taken. If they are in a Foreign country (ie Lebanon) they should probably stay on their own side of the border.

Their action, complain to the UN and wait for Russia or China to veto any condemnation of Hamas no matter what they did.
How many resolutions did Israel get the UN to condem Palestine for sinve Nov of '47?
 

Just the Facts

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I can only suggest you read the report for balance and in order to judge this conflict based on all the facts, not just the ones which saturate our news media.
United Nations Fact Finding Mission on the Gaza conflict

?:?:

Also, what is not reported is that this report is now widely accepted internationally as the facts supported by evidence.

Probably true, but folly. Goldstone himself warned against treating his report as fact. I think I'll believe him over the OIC.

The Goldstone report is basically "Hamas says this is what happened". With some pictures and rubble added to the mix. Goldstone admits this.

Therefore, refer to the Goldstone report all you want, but please don't try to pass it off as fact. If even Goldstone won't, you shouldn't, nor should the "internationally".
 

Just the Facts

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That is the duty of the Courts to sort out the facts from the fiction, ... They have been screaming 'unfair' ever since the report came out. If they don't like 'reports' don't kill 1400 people.

lol who's "they"? Goldstone himself said his report wouldn't stand up in court. Therefore I agree with Ironsides, why should I waste my valuable time reading a report that means nothing.

Talk to me when they have some facts. I'm only interested in the facts. JUST the FACTS.

lol
 

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lol who's "they"? Goldstone himself said his report wouldn't stand up in court. Therefore I agree with Ironsides, why should I waste my valuable time reading a report that means nothing.

Talk to me when they have some facts. I'm only interested in the facts. JUST the FACTS.

lol
Since you and Ironsides have no say in the Court why even offer any comment?
Let the 'accusation' have it's day in court then the facts can be laying at your feet after they cut them down.
 

Just the Facts

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Since you and Ironsides have no say in the Court why even offer any comment?
Let the 'accusation' have it's day in court then the facts can be laying at your feet after they cut them down.

Whether or not I have say in any court is relevant to nothing. Why would you comment on that? lol

Goldstone said the Goldstone report would not hold up in court. I believe he is a judge by profession, is he not? Plus he authored the report. I'm gonna take that as a pretty darn good authoritative stance. lol
 

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Whether or not I have say in any court is relevant to nothing. Why would you comment on that? lol

Goldstone said the Goldstone report would not hold up in court. I believe he is a judge by profession, is he not? Plus he authored the report. I'm gonna take that as a pretty darn good authoritative stance. lol
It means that, even here, your voice is just another mouth that has no bite.
I sort of meant about any of it, not just the court preceding.

The Court can use that report to springboard their own investigation and it would be a lot more through than his summation of events.

What is important was there is a way around having the US protect Israel by vetoing every attempt to bring Israel into acting like good international citizens. Not much hope of that when the US enables them to conduct war-crimes. No set-up Americans will also find themselves also up on charges if their own countrymen don't do them in first.

The International Court of Justice acts as a world court. The Court has a dual jurisdiction : it decides, in accordance with international law, disputes of a legal nature that are submitted to it by States (jurisdiction in contentious cases); and it gives advisory opinions on legal questions at the request of the organs of the United Nations or specialized agencies authorized to make such a request (advisory jurisdiction).
 

darkbeaver

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Israel is crime central on this planet.

Israeli education ministry censors Universal Declaration of Human Rights



The office of the minister of education forbade distributing a booklet for kids about the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, because it didn’t like two articles in the declaration, as well as some of the illustration in the booklet.
These two articles are as follows:
"Everyone has the right to seek and to enjoy in other countries asylum from persecution." (Article 14)
"Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance." (Article 18)
 
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Goober

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Did your own Doc read the Goldstone report, a Jewish perspective on the current trend of Jewish activities in and around their 'new home'? Now submit that report to your shrink and come back when she/he/it replies.

You might want to include how many times you have posted just to EAO and even sometimes talk about him even in posts to other people. That is like complaining to your mate (he/she/it) about your mistress (he/she/it).

Questioning the Jewish pregnant hockey stick was theory only one part of why I support the Palestinian civilians. Thier land was stolen from them, doesn't matter how you try to disguise that fact it doesn't change that it is a fact. The motives for some of the 33 countries could have been 'influenced' by more powerful Nations. Haiti would never vote for a poor people to lose their freedom to the Nations with money.
MHZSo property is stolen - Belongs to a kingdom or state - It is repeatedly stolen by others - eventually it is returned to the rightful owners - Israel is then again a State - So how can they steal what was rightfully theirs -
 

ironsides

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That is the duty of the Courts to sort out the facts from the fiction, if you are so sure that Israel is faultless then a trial should cause you (and their other supports of operation cast lead) no concern. They have been screaming 'unfair' ever since the report came out. If they don't like 'reports' don't kill 1400 people.

"especially UN and NGOs, which have a documented hostility to Israel;"
For the number of UN troops that Israel has killed over the years how many IDF have been killed by UN troops? Perhaps Israel quit targeting everything painted as belonging to the UN. Why does that solution never make it to the top of thier list on how to get along with others. lol

If, and I say if Israel is the bully, why does the little guy keep starting fights with them? Shooting rockets at them no matter how unsophisticated they maybe will get anyone to retaliate. Now if Hamas were brave enough to fire upon Israel from a barren wasteland there would be no argument from anyone about how Israel retaliated. All that Hamas has to do is stop the firing of anything into Israel. Anytime they seem close to talking to each other a rocket or rockets are fired into Israel and of course Israel shoots back. Israel never could trust the UN to prevent anything.
 

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MHZSo property is stolen - Belongs to a kingdom or state - It is repeatedly stolen by others - eventually it is returned to the rightful owners - Israel is then again a State - So how can they steal what was rightfully theirs -
Salem was a Gentile city and it was right with God.

Ge:14:18:
And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine:
and he was the priest of the most high God.
Ge:14:19:
And he blessed him,
and said,
Blessed be Abram of the most high God,
possessor of heaven and earth:
Ge:14:20:
And blessed be the most high God,
which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand.
And he gave him tithes of all.


Psalms:76:1:
In Judah is God known:
his name is great in Israel.
Psalms:76:2:
In Salem also is his tabernacle,
and his dwelling place in Zion.
Psalms:76:3:
There brake he the arrows of the bow,
the shield,
and the sword,
and the battle.
Selah.
 

MHz

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No argument from me there, Lebanon is a sovereign state, and Israel took a chance flying recon over them, even though I understand why.
So you understand why Syria and Lebanon should have Russian air defensive systems. The S-330 (or 400) is supposed to be quite capable but then it would also cover all aircraft operating inside Israel. No doubt they would whine and shed some crocodile tears over that situation.
 

Goober

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Salem was a Gentile city and it was right with God.

Ge:14:18:
And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine:
and he was the priest of the most high God.
Ge:14:19:
And he blessed him,
and said,
Blessed be Abram of the most high God,
possessor of heaven and earth:
Ge:14:20:
And blessed be the most high God,
which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand.
And he gave him tithes of all.


Psalms:76:1:
In Judah is God known:
his name is great in Israel.
Psalms:76:2:
In Salem also is his tabernacle,
and his dwelling place in Zion.
Psalms:76:3:
There brake he the arrows of the bow,
the shield,
and the sword,
and the battle.
Selah.

MHZ

I appreciate these posting - I have not attended church in many years and have not read my bible in just as many - i hope to have time for that, the Bible and the Koran this summer. Though i am sure i will be as busy as ever.