And the Liberal HRC's are trying to take it away from me.The Liberals gave you a Charter of Rights so you have freedom to speak.
Canadian Conservatives are America's Democrats. Enjoy.
Liberal phobia and the cause….
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Call them what you want that makes you happy,
Conservativisem is what the final picture, the American political arena is divided between Republicans and Democrats, they are like day and night in ideology.
Pick fly sh!t from pepper all you want. The American people got rid off the Right and put in power the left.
Because the Right f them economically and now they asked the left to clean the mess. U enjoy..
Yep, and that is the very reason the US will never invade Canada. They have no need of 33,000,000 more Democrats.
That's awesome, Obama's far more rightwing then Harper. And I'm Canadian and we're discussing the Canadian political landscape. Stop trying to win the debate by moving the goal posts around.
They both messed up the economy.
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Quite so, and I think Obama has been fairly successful in cleaning up the Republican mess, all the signs point to a recovery. The last job report was particularly encouraging. Even with adverse weather influencing the economy negatively, job losses were much smaller than expected.
But people really won’t feel that we are in the recovery mode until the economy starts creating new jobs. Hopefully that day is not far into future now.
So yes, Obama has been fairly successful in cleaning up the gigantic Republican mess (or the mess created by Obama, Clinton and Carter, if one is to believe the conservatives here).
But he has paid high price for it, in the form of huge budget deficits. Now it remain to be seen if people give him time to get the deficits under control or if they elect conservatives, who will make the deficit problem even worse (as they have been doing for the past 30 years, whenever they have been in power in USA or in Canada).
I have to ask.
How is it Obama gets a pass on his deficit, while Harper gets a huge kick in the balls?
And I'll ask the same question of you, that I asked of Soc, how can you expect to be taken seriously when you are so extreme?
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So....let me see.......Obama sits while the economy slowly recovers......and he drives the country into a massive debt situation.......and he sits at the right hand of God........
Harper sits while an economy that is healthier than the American one slowly recovers.........and he drives the country into a massive debt situation......and he is spawn of the devil........
Consistency is simply too much to expect.
I'm still waiting for my buddies to show up. Not everyone keeps the hours I do, lol.
Hey Canadian bear , because Harper and his losers when campaigning in 2004 they told Canadians to let us in Ottawa to clean the mess the Liberals have created, while the stupid fcks were receiving a surplus of 12 Billion dollars , and now the country is in a huge f financial hole.
Their cleaning up consists of prorogation of Parliament running like a bunch of f pansy’s from responsibility, stopping the country’s business so they can tell Canadians we are doing what Canadians asked us to do, while behind close doors ( we are not here to clean up like we said we will, but rather to fk things up and punish the opposition. )
Blander after blander, they tried all the cheating angels to get into office, from over spending on election budgets which is against the Canadian rules, and while in the past 4 years these chicken little minority losers fly first class to tell Canada we will have deficits after we are gone for the next 7- 8 years.
Give it up Canadian bear, ether contribute or you look stupid going on comparing Elephants with f pelicans.
Don’t forget these f rs when the flue pandemic started they offered your people body bags instead of medicine remember? Not immediate medical help, body bags because Human rights meanes nothing to them.
They are bigots, liars and cheats…..Not snow whites as they claimed they were back in 2004
So keep on compeering Elephants with pelicans, it looks good on you, plus I thought NDP was your brand, what happened? you jump ship?, and now you are onto a ship that is about to sink? And trust the writing on the wall they will sink.
YouTube - Harper calls for Conservative majority
Say what? The Canadian economy is what it is because of Liberal fiscal prudence not because of anything the Conservatives have done. The Conservatives have done f all to better Canadians standard of living. $300.000 a year for the top job in Canada and end up with $100 Billion onto the federal debt is a bad deal for Canadians.
lol I see a few people still can't follow a topic.
Anyway, our Conservatives are no more conservative than our Liberals. Both are fairly liberal socially (Liberals being a smidgeon more so) and neither are fiscally conservative.
I'm still waiting for Bob to explain how people like GWB, Hitler, Thatcher, Chiang Kai-Shek, and other authoritarians are left-wing (drums fingers on the desk). lol
Anyway, our Conservatives are no more conservative than our Liberals. Both are fairly liberal socially (Liberals being a smidgeon more so) and neither are fiscally conservative.
I'm still waiting for Bob to explain how people like GWB, Hitler, Thatcher, Chiang Kai-Shek, and other authoritarians are left-wing (drums fingers on the desk). lol
Say what? The Canadian economy is what it is because of Liberal fiscal prudence not because of anything the Conservatives have done. The Conservatives have done f all to better Canadians standard of living. $300.000 a year for the top job in Canada and end up with $100 Billion onto the federal debt is a bad deal for Canadians.
Your dead wrong, Socrates- I'm neither Liberal or Conservative but I've done a lot better in 3 years under the Cons. than I did in 13 under the Liberals. They've literally saved me $thousands in income tax alone and unlike the Libs they have reduced the G.S.T. :smile:
Good day JLM , I am glad you are doing fine under the Harper Conservatives, realise one thing it would be very selfish of me to praise a Government who is giving me a carrot and puts my on bad math path.
7 - 8 years of deficits will make my carrots The Conservatives gave me look like a grain of sand on a dump truck full of sand.
So what are we talking about? Comparing your tax cuts with a 2 % reduction of the GST over 7 - 8 years bad RED INK IN THE TUNE OF $100B onto the federal dept where is the logic in that?.
JLM Sorry to you and many others on this thread, I want to apologize for my demeanour to opposite opinion, but I do see some bad things coming up that will affect all Canadians not just me.
I do apologize in the heat of the moment f this and f that but hay, I am not a violent guy nor do I wish hell on the Conservatives in Ottawa.
Conservative politicians are people with families too. THEY CROSS the floor and become Liberals or NDP or Independents’.
It is only the philosophy that I find hard to except. A famous saying is “ Politics make strange bed fellows” But please $100 Billion in 7-8 years a $500 tax cut and 2% on GST is something to WORRIED ABOUT.
I suppose I am Liberalphobic because of the Liberal habit of liberating public funds for Liberals' personal gain as well as the decidedly unliberal habit of Liberals to curtail the liberties of people without good reason.
But, I remain a moderate liberal.
But, I remain a moderate liberal.
I'd be cautious, it is a good thing we have that notwithstanding clause lest we end up with judicial law, which we have a lot of anyway. The clause still allows our elected members to nix laws the judiciary enact.
Well, yes, but I don't think anyone was laughing.
Sadly I think they had to adapt to get votes. I'm not sure of their colour either, or if they are less progressive. I'm certainly not particularly happy with them, but in my mind's view, they beat the hell out of the Liberals.
You may have a point, there is much legislation in the US that leans toward totalitarinaism, or anyother ism you want to imagine. On the other hand, the Liberals have made no such guarantee that they wouldn't do the same, they just try to make us feel better about it.
What was it spent on? I didn't see any extra infrastructure work other than what was has already been on the slate for 10 years. Who is filling the potholes?
Say what? The Canadian economy is what it is because of Liberal fiscal prudence not because of anything the Conservatives have done. The Conservatives have done f all to better Canadians standard of living. $300.000 a year for the top job in Canada and end up with $100 Billion onto the federal debt is a bad deal for Canadians.
Quite so. I don’t think Harper is fully to blame for the current deficit. However, he definitely gets some of the blame.
When he came to office, we had a surplus of 10 billion $ plus. One of the first things Harper did was to declare tax cuts mostly benefiting the rich, and thereby squandered away all the surplus. Just before the meltdown, he had negligible surplus. So when the tsunami hit is, he had nowhere to go but to rack up the biggest deficit in Canadian history.
The only thing that could be said in his favor is that he did not imitate his idol, Bush and rack up a huge deficit to give the rich the tax cuts. He squandered the surplus, but he did not go into deficit that came later.
If he had continued with the prudent economic management of Liberals, the deficit today would have been much lower. So Harper definitely gets part of the blame for the deficit.
The difference between Harper and Obama is that Obama inherited more than 500 billion $ deficit, while Harper inherited more than 10 billion $ surplus (which he promptly frittered away).