Liberal phobia and the cause….

[CDNBear]

Ya, we've seen that toon before.

Have you got anything else? Preferably something I can't poke holes in using the very real fact that the Liberal opposition was going hijack Parliament with the help of Separatists, to topple the duly elected Gov't because they weren't throwing enough good money after bad.

 

[Socrates the Greek]

Ya, we've seen that toon before.

Have you got anything else? Preferably something I can't poke holes in using the very real fact that the Liberal opposition was going to topple the Gov't because they weren't throwing enough good money after bad.

$100 BILLION AND COUNTING ONTO THE FEDERAL DEBT, YOU CALL THAT CRAP????

I call it bad economics and when one doesn’t learn from the past and keeps on voting goofs to balance economics they are Glutens for punishment.

Bad for the pocket and bad for your rights.

 

[CDNBear]

$100 BILLION AND COUNTING ONTO THE FEDERAL DEBT, YOU CALL THAT CRAP????

I call it bad economics and when one doesn’t learn from the past and keeps on voting goofs to balance economics they are gelatines for punishment.

And you can equally thank your Liberal party, and the other asshats in Parliament. Your applying sole accountability to one single man/party, is insane and says volumes about your ability to communicate in a healthy manner.

Bad for the pocket and bad for your rights.

Yes I agree, which is why I will never vote Liberal.

 

[Socrates the Greek]

And you can equally thank your Liberal party, and the other asshats in Parliament. Your applying sole accountability to one single man/party, is insane and says volumes about your ability to communicate in a healthy manner.

Yes I agree, which is why I will never vote Liberal.

The Liberals gave you a Charter of Rights so you have freedom to speak.

 

[lone wolf]

The Liberals gave you a Charter of Rights so you have freedom to speak.

Bullshyte, Soc. My grandfather's walk through Italy did a lot more than some recycled Charter.

 

[bobnoorduyn]

The ones favouring extensive political reform was Preston Manning who attempted to resurrect the Cons from the grave after Mulroney’s dismal performance. He founded two political parties – the Reform Party and the Canadian Reform Conservative Alliance – both of which became the official Opposition in the Canadian Parliament.

No, Preston Manning and his followers split from The PC's, not to ressurect them but to defeat them, Brian Mulroney spews much vitriol explaining this. Manning only had one party, not two, that came later.

The reason for such drastic name change was, to fool the electorate by making them forget the Mulroney political tyranny inflicted on Canadians.

No, it was not to fool the electorate but to ride on the wave of the electorate's realisation that they were under a political tyranny.

Yes the Conservatives in Ottawa are a totalitarian regime, they are a minority Government and act as if they hold the key to indispensable power.

And of course the Liberals aren't, haven't been, and don't wish to be :roll:, wake up dude.

 

[Risus]

$100 BILLION AND COUNTING ONTO THE FEDERAL DEBT, YOU CALL THAT CRAP????

I call it bad economics and when one doesn’t learn from the past and keeps on voting goofs to balance economics they are Glutens for punishment.

Bad for the pocket and bad for your rights.

And you don't think the glibs would be throwing money around on their pet projects with the ndpers help??? Get a life.

Canada's economy is one of the best in the world right now thanks to Harper. Get used to it.

 

[Risus]

The Liberals gave you a Charter of Rights so you have freedom to speak.

LOL, wake up. We had the freedom of speech long before pet's charter of rights...

 

[bobnoorduyn]

The Liberals gave you a Charter of Rights so you have freedom to speak.

Yup, and they have been trying to curtail that ever since it was first allowed, along with many other Charter rights, (Why do you think they so heavily fund HRC's?).

 

[Socrates the Greek]

Bullshyte, Soc. My grandfather's walk through Italy did a lot more than some recycled Charter.

Charter of Rights in Italy?

ask Amanda Knox about justice in Italy,, nothing but a Total abomination of justice.

The mob runs Italy's justice system ............

 

[lone wolf]

Charter of Rights in Italy?

ask Amanda Knox about justice in Italy,, nothing but a Total abomination of justice.

The mob runs Italy's justice system ............

Try World War 2. Are you that focused on your target that you lost sight of reality?

 

[Socrates the Greek]

Try World War 2. Are you that focussed on your target that you lost sight of reality?

No I have not lost anything LW................... but we are talking about the deference between Liberals and Conservatives, IN CANADA not examples of a long distant past in Italy that has little to do with this discussion.

 

[lone wolf]

No I have not lost anything LW................... but we are talking about the deference between Liberals and Conservatives, IN CANADA not examples of a long distant past in Italy that has little to do with this discussion.

You're saying that some Charter gives me freedom of speech? I'm saying I had that before Trudeau decided to carve his name on history. Several thousand Canadians paid for that right with their blood - while your draft-dodger was giving Canada the finger. Hell, if he'd been serious about the Charter, there wouldn't be a notwithstanding clause in it.

 

[Socrates the Greek]

No, Preston Manning and his followers split from The PC's, not to ressurect them but to defeat them, Brian Mulroney spews much vitriol explaining this. Manning only had one party, not two, that came later.



No, it was not to fool the electorate but to ride on the wave of the electorate's realisation that they were under a political tyranny.



And of course the Liberals aren't, haven't been, and don't wish to be :roll:, wake up dude.

"No, it was not to fool the electorate but to ride on the wave of the electorate's realisation that they were under a political tyranny."

And oddly enough, the Canadian voter did not buy the crap Preston Manning was offering to them.
Never got elected to become the PM of the Country. Did he? Can you think a better reason why he did not become the PM?
Which he so badly wanted and subsequently had to step down because the Canadian people as soon as they realised the core they run the other way?

 

[JLM]

LOL, wake up. We had the freedom of speech long before pet's charter of rights...

Well, that's right- to be honest I personally haven't noticed one more freedom since this "eighth wonder of the universe" came into effect- I don't even have a clue what year that was- somewhere between 1970 and 1984 would be my best guess.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

Anna: don't you just love it when certain things are conveniently left out of statistics and just the ones that support you are brought to the forefront :smile:


And Toronto is safer than the west:lol:

Certainly Toronto is safer than the west. When a comparison is made, it is the rate, and not the absolute number that is important.

To take an extreme example, suppose a city with 100, 000 population has 1000 murders. Suppose a city with 1,000,000 population has 1001 murders. Then according to your absurd argument, the city with 1 million population is less safe (since it has more murders), which is nothing short of idiotic.

When two cities are compared it is the rate of crime, per 100,000 population that is important, not the absolute number.

So yes, Toronto is definitely safer than Vancouver or Winnipeg.

 

[lone wolf]

It's the bullet/knife/bat/boor operated by the human that's going to kill you - not the misinterpreted statistic. Go right ahead and stand in front of a discharging registered firearm. You'd be safe ... I promise. Statistically, registered guns have killed so few - with malice.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

What percentage of rifles and shotguns are involved in crimes? To be able to speak sensibly o the subject these figures are compulsory.

That is irrelevant, you are trying to go off on a tangent. The fact is, gun related crime rate is higher in the West than it is in the East, there is no way to get around it. There are more gun related crimes per 100,000 population in Vancouver and Winnipeg than there are in Toronto.

 

[Risus]

Certainly Toronto is safer than the west. When a comparison is made, it is the rate, and not the absolute number that is important.

To take an extreme example, suppose a city with 100, 000 population has 1000 murders. Suppose a city with 1,000,000 population has 1001 murders. Then according to your absurd argument, the city with 1 million population is less safe (since it has more murders), which is nothing short of idiotic.

When two cities are compared it is the rate of crime, per 100,000 population that is important, not the absolute number.

So yes, Toronto is definitely safer than Vancouver or Winnipeg.

Like I said earlier, it all depends where you live in Toronto.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

There's another cause of Liberalphobia. Two Percent? I wonder where the offending unregistered weapons reside in Canada? Could a few of them be in Toronto? 'Course, I have no statistical charts on that one...and neither does anyone else.

They could very well be in Toronto, countryboy. That may be one reason what Toronto has a high gun related crime rate, higher compared to rest of Ontario (but lower compared to the West).

More the number of guns available, more of them are going to be used to commit a crime, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out. It is also borne out by statistics.