Kanehsatake, 270 year of resistance.
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According to history, Brebeuf and some assistants were killed when a raiding war party attacked their Huron village near Midland Ontario. See the Martyrs Shrine and Ste Marie among the Hurons.
So it was just a coincidence that a Jesuit and his assistants were killed? Well, shyte happens.
So the point is that it was a land claim issue? Was that land claim resistance between natives or natives and Europeans?
Iroquois claimed Hurons (Wendat) were on their turf. There weren't a lot of native/bad guy land claims in the 1600's
I agree. Pretty much as soon as the Europeans got here there was one though. They claimed everything, much like the US claimed the moon. lol
...so overlapping territory only started when Europeans came to these shores? I don't think so.
I get it!.... It's a tradition
I don't think so either. And that isn't what I said to begin with. Before they got here there were land disputes (and I said that right from the beginning, as well as other disputes), but things were relatively harmonious.
It does seem that way alright. Sort of like what's mine is mine and what's yours is also mine unless I say otherwise.
You know what? You make a treaty you abide by it. You do it in Europe, you should do it in the Americas. pretty much all these dispute, Yukon Jack, have to do with treaties that had not been abided by, you seem to be a person who is all about doing right, now I understand that when you were a kid some Aboriginals beat you up when you first arrived to Canada,. I'll say again what i said then -0 they looked at you like you looked at them after that moment. You felt that they had attacked you unfairly. them> they saw you as another white guy who didn't abide by the treaties.
Here's another thing Jack, you're Hungarian. How would you have felt if those august members of The Austrian Empire decided that you'd be much better off if you were separated from your 'uncivilized' family and brought to a school to learn the more civilized Austrian lifestyle rather than that more uncivilized Magyar lifestyle?
think you'd be an understand boy, a happy boy?
I read a book a long time ago that included letters written by Brebeuf and his fellow "martyrs" to their monastery back in France. They complained that the indians were ignoring their presence, that they pretended they didn't exist, like they were ghosts in the village. Over a period of time they became more and more despondent and then started talking about how martyrdom was the ultimate act of faith.
The Jesuits began to get in the people's way, trying to get them to acknowledge their presence. They became a constant source of annoyance to the indians, purposely trying to get them to kill them. Well, they got their wish. I think that the idea that they were martyrs should be revisited, because in fact it looks like they committed "suicide by indians".
Your post was a shining example of the complete farce your' and the bulk of Canadians grasp of Canadian History is.
Like the whole of Canada, they did get expelled from the country and banned from practice here, lol.
You guess wrong.
The more I delve into native spirituality and the more I learn from the elders the more respect I have for Natives and their beliefs,the 4 colors of humanity are an excellent way to explain how we are not all the same,the natives being the stewards of the land is very true,it is the mixing of whites with natives where things go unbalanced as the white man represents a sort of progress it is because the natives beliefs in the earth were not respected that the balance became unbalanced.
when and if the 4 colors all respect the gifts of each one,then we will have true progress.
when and if the 4 colors all respect the gifts of each one,then we will have true progress.
Although I do not embrace the neo pagaism that permeates our spiritual culture these days, "Black" seems to be the colour of choice if you ask me.
BTW: My the clours of my war paint and I do have an assigned mask, given to me by my Grandfather, is Black and Red.
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Thats war colors though and different then the 4 I mentioned. You are ready for blood and war with those by my understanding,the 4 colors I mean are the 4 colors of the races.
Yellow-intelligence
Black-strength and rythem
White-progress,exploration
red-at one with the earth and it's delicate balance.
I'm probably not the best one to explain it the way it is being taught to me as i'm still learning and it's all taught without books but orally.
From my community, the Haudenosanee, Onondaga to be specific, East is Red, and means Triumph, Black is west and means death, Blue id North, and means defeat, White is south and means peace.