Here in northern Ontario, years ago, we had to remove the human scent from the traps and even the gloves to handle the traps before using them for wolves or foxes, otherwise you wouldn't catch anything...I don't know about now?
Young woman killed by coyotes
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Maybe because humans can't outrun coyotes and deer can? Something about easier prey.
Around here, they are curious to see if we will leave them anything after we've bagged game. They don't go near any droppings until they're damned sure we are gone. Bears on the other hand, get too curious, so someone has to keep an eye out for them. Wolves and coyotes watch from a distance.
I canoe and backpack frequently. I've only seen wolves a few times. I've seen lots of signs of them. I've never had a problem with one. Moose on the other hand... My brother was treed by one while hunting grouse with his .22. A cow moose ran through past me and through my campsite one morning. If I hadn't gotten out of the way, I pretty sure she would have knocked me down. I even had a doe with a fawn stamp the ground defiantly. As soon as the fawn ran away, she followed.
But I have never a problem with a wolf or a coyote.
But I have never a problem with a wolf or a coyote.
Risus, we really do have diametrically opposed world views...
Why would competence in man's oldest past time (skill at arms) be "disgusting"?
Why would instilling fear in a species that would prey on us be "disgusting"?
Please explain.
I used to fish, trap and hunt. Now I just fish and take photographs. I can't kill wild animals anymore for philosophical reasons, but I recognize the beneficial effects of hunting and trapping as long as people obey the law.
Even though I don't possess firearms anymore, I support the right of Canadians like Colpy possess them for hunting and dealing with nuisance animals.
IMO, hunting and trapping is ecologically beneficial. The biggest threats to wildlife are human encroachment and pollution. Hunting and trapping organizations promote wildlife conservation and raise serious dollars to protect wild areas from development.
I have noticed that geese in cities aren't afraid of people. Geese in hunting areas fear and avoid humans. I noticed the same thing regarding moose in Algonquin park versus outside the park. Inside they have little to no fear of humans. Outside the park they run as soon as they sense humans.
This story indicates that some coyote populations have lost their fear of humans. I suspect that shooting a few coyotes would restore proper behavior. But I'm not in favor of over doing it. Coyotes, wolves and other predator species play an important part in the natural order. They also deserve protection. But those that don't run when they see humans should be thinned from the population. But if they run, I'm in favor of leaving them alone.
BTW, every wolf I've ever seen ran as soon as they sensed me.
Even though I don't possess firearms anymore, I support the right of Canadians like Colpy possess them for hunting and dealing with nuisance animals.
IMO, hunting and trapping is ecologically beneficial. The biggest threats to wildlife are human encroachment and pollution. Hunting and trapping organizations promote wildlife conservation and raise serious dollars to protect wild areas from development.
I have noticed that geese in cities aren't afraid of people. Geese in hunting areas fear and avoid humans. I noticed the same thing regarding moose in Algonquin park versus outside the park. Inside they have little to no fear of humans. Outside the park they run as soon as they sense humans.
This story indicates that some coyote populations have lost their fear of humans. I suspect that shooting a few coyotes would restore proper behavior. But I'm not in favor of over doing it. Coyotes, wolves and other predator species play an important part in the natural order. They also deserve protection. But those that don't run when they see humans should be thinned from the population. But if they run, I'm in favor of leaving them alone.
BTW, every wolf I've ever seen ran as soon as they sensed me.
Killing wildlife is what is disgusting when it is not for food. Don't forget it is humans who are encroaching on their territory.Risus, we really do have diametrically opposed world views...
Why would competence in man's oldest past time (skill at arms) be "disgusting"?
Why would instilling fear in a species that would prey on us be "disgusting"?
Please explain.
My parents used to own a small business on the shore of Tsinket Lake which is about twelve miles outside Burns Lake in Northern B.C.. We had a store, twelve cabins, a gas station. and fishing boats to rent. Tsinket Lake was twelve or fourteen miles long and three miles across. The lake used to freeze over in the winter and we had an old Jeep that we could drive out on the lake when the ice got thick enough, usually by the middle of December.
One winter we spotted a wolf out on the ice and we chased it with the jeep for a while until it was getting tired and it led us to the den where we shot it. I have to tell you here that there was a twenty five dollar bounty on wolves. At the den we also shot a female and seven of eight pups. The eighth pup was bigger than the rest and it was jet black with eyes the colour of lemons. We brought that one home because I wanted to keep it. My dad wouldn't hear of it and we had to shoot it as well. My share of the bounty bought me a new Cooey 22 repeating rifle out of the Eatons catalogue. A bunch of little mercenaries we were....:roll:
One winter we spotted a wolf out on the ice and we chased it with the jeep for a while until it was getting tired and it led us to the den where we shot it. I have to tell you here that there was a twenty five dollar bounty on wolves. At the den we also shot a female and seven of eight pups. The eighth pup was bigger than the rest and it was jet black with eyes the colour of lemons. We brought that one home because I wanted to keep it. My dad wouldn't hear of it and we had to shoot it as well. My share of the bounty bought me a new Cooey 22 repeating rifle out of the Eatons catalogue. A bunch of little mercenaries we were....:roll:
Risus opined:
"Killing wildlife is what is disgusting. It is humans who are encroaching on their territory."
Killing a totally viable, living bean, carrot, potato, mushroom, onion or any other plant or vegatable is just as "disgusting". They were here, after all, long before man.
Unless you develop and use photosynthesis, you MUST kill something to live.
"Killing wildlife is what is disgusting. It is humans who are encroaching on their territory."
Killing a totally viable, living bean, carrot, potato, mushroom, onion or any other plant or vegatable is just as "disgusting". They were here, after all, long before man.
Unless you develop and use photosynthesis, you MUST kill something to live.
thats not entirely true, some bacteria lives off the nutrients of black smokers in the ocean where the sun doesnt exist
What, are not humans animals too? What makes it "their" territory?
I'm top of the food chain...it is MY territory........and a coyote would understand that.
Risus chided me thus:
"You conveniently edited out "when it is not for food" from my comment...."
I did nothing of the sort. The quote you see in my post #212 is a direct, unchanged lift from Risus's post #209 BEFORE he edited it to cover his sorry a$$.
"You conveniently edited out "when it is not for food" from my comment...."
I did nothing of the sort. The quote you see in my post #212 is a direct, unchanged lift from Risus's post #209 BEFORE he edited it to cover his sorry a$$.