Court Enables Official Facist State of USA

[darkbeaver]

Jan 23 09:08

Our Supreme Court Has Lost Its Mind



Now the cat is truly out of the bag. In principle, corporations can now spend as much of the treasury as shareholders will allow on such political ads. This means that every decision maker in a corporation has contribution and voting rights equal to anyone on the street, while the firm may blast away with treasury funds to bolster management preferences.

 

[Kreskin]

This is great news and an important decision.

 

[YukonJack]

How is a donation to a Party or an individual - whatever amount - from a Corporation any different from a similar donation from a sick, twisted individual like George Soros?

 

[AnnaG]

lol What is facist? Is that like racist only pertinent to faces only?

"You're an idiot because your face is weird". roflmao

 

[darkbeaver]

stupid word is hard to spell

 

[darkbeaver]

How is a donation to a Party or an individual - whatever amount - from a Corporation any different from a similar donation from a sick, twisted individual like George Soros?

Exactly Jack, it isn't, but now there are way more of them that don't have to hide the contributions now. If there are any honest American politicians left, there days are numbered.

 

[clutch]

This article brings to light the corruption of America.

 

[Kreskin]

How is it corrupt?

 

[earth_as_one]

The decision contributes to the process of perverting a democracy into a plutocracy. The US ceased being a true democracy decades ago.

Wiki:
The term plutocracy is generally used to describe these two distinct concepts: one of a historical nature and one of a modern political nature....


(modern)
...Before the equal voting rights movement managed to end it in the early 20th century, many countries used a system where rich persons had more votes than poor. A factory owner may for instance have had 2000 votes while a worker had one, or if they were very poor no right to vote at all. Even artificial persons such as companies had voting rights.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plutocracy

 

[petros]

Politicians bought and sold....

Democracy is dead!!!

 

[Kreskin]

If it wasn't large corporations we'd all be scrounging for breadcrumbs like Haitians.

 

[petros]

Really? How so?

 

[Cliffy]

If it wasn't large corporations we'd all be scrounging for breadcrumbs like Haitians.

That is just silly. First, large corporations employ only about 30% of the working force and are operated mostly by automation. Like in the forest industry, since the seventies 300% more wood was cut (until the recent downturn) by 1/3rd the workforce. Most people work for small businesses or are self employed. Second, Canada is rich in food production and natural resources. Before corporations took over just about every aspect of our lives, we worked and interacted quite nicely through small commercial endeavors.

What we now have is a corporate dictatorship where high paid lobbyists garner favour in Ottawa and Provincial capitals so that law makers favour the corporate interests above those of the citizenry. Our politicians are bought and sold in the market place. Just look at food additives, as one small example. We are poisoned by law by chemicals that are known carcinogens.

No, democracy is dead but the corpse has not been notified.

 

[earth_as_one]

This court decsion is a step toward turning the US into an absolute plutocracy.

Inevitably power will become concentrated into the hands of ever fewer wealthy powerful people until the will of the people can only be expressed by revolution... Usually violent revolution.

 

[Kreskin]

They have small business cooperatives in Haiti. Lots of them. Almost 100%.

 

[taxslave]

That is just silly. First, large corporations employ only about 30% of the working force and are operated mostly by automation. Like in the forest industry, since the seventies 300% more wood was cut (until the recent downturn) by 1/3rd the workforce. Most people work for small businesses or are self employed. Second, Canada is rich in food production and natural resources. Before corporations took over just about every aspect of our lives, we worked and interacted quite nicely through small commercial endeavors.

What we now have is a corporate dictatorship where high paid lobbyists garner favour in Ottawa and Provincial capitals so that law makers favour the corporate interests above those of the citizenry. Our politicians are bought and sold in the market place. Just look at food additives, as one small example. We are poisoned by law by chemicals that are known carcinogens.

No, democracy is dead but the corpse has not been notified.

The stats are manipulated somewhat. True large companies no longer employ the numbers that they once did but many of their products are outsourced to small business all over Canada. Automation has been a fact of life for centuries now, but in many instances the jobs just got more technical. Instead of having 20 junior bean counters a company only needs a couple now but also requires the services of a bunch of computer experts to keep the tech toys up and running.

 

[Bar Sinister]

How is it corrupt?

Since Darkbeaver posted a thread identical to mine I will comment on some of the posts here.

The US system is already strongly controlled by monied interests. In a typical US election the incumbents outspend the challengers by an average of 12 to 1. This probably accounts for the fact that so few incumbents ever lose once they are elected. Generally the number of challengers who are successful is less than 3%. Compare this to countries like Canada where the turnover in most elections is often as high as 50% or more. In the 1993 election the governing Progressive Conservative Party went from 151 seats to 2. This sort of thing simply does not occur in the US. As a result American politicians are far less responsive to the electorate since they realize that no matter how badly they govern their chance of losing to any challenger is very close to zero. The recent Supreme Court decision will make this worse. It may not turn the US into a fascist state, but it will give the incumbents an even stronger hold on the government. At the very best it will make the US much less democratic that its founding fathers intended.

BTW in the US most jobs are created by small businesses, not large corporations.
Who Creates The Most New Jobs? | Small Business Trends

 

[Kreskin]

Yes, they talk about small business leading the charge right now and how that is 'far from encouraging'.

I frankly don't care what they plan to do in the US, but this was a Supreme Court decision which has nothing to do with money controlling anything.

 

[barney]

stupid word is hard to spell

It's "facist" with an "s." How hard is that? Now the title just sounds ridiculuos.

All this does is raise the cap on already rampant propaganda. Won't change voting patterns much. If that were the limit of their corruption of the democratic process, Americans would be sitting pretty. Unfortunately, it's not...not by a long shot.

This is great news and an important decision.

Just have to ask: where the hell did that come from?

 

[Kreskin]

Just have to ask: where the hell did that come from?

Just trolling.