Parliament makes Canada unstable: PM
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So what he is saying is that when democracy kicks in the governemnet is unstable and has to answer to the people so prorogue so silly things like democracy don't get in the way of our dictatorship.
NICE!:roll:
Good grief, Liberalman, will you ever remove your noggin from your rearend? Immigrants fomenting civil war! I think not.
proroguing parliment seems like such a waste of time and money - but what else is new..It's to be expected..
Under Harper our Parliment has been turned into a zero sum game, one side or the other takes all. He's made no effort to make things work for the people he's supposed to be representing, ALL Canadians, he's just manipulating the system to try hold on long enough to achieve a majority government.
So the Ottawa press lobby was brought into line so we don't get any more of those embarassing sponataneous questions thrown at the PM and his ministers, the conservatives tried goto members in opposition ridings to try and circumvent the Parlimentary system from the base, protocols were established by the sitting government on how to disrupt OUR Parliment and when the government gets caught engaging in undemocratic behaviour...like lying about an ongoing military mission that has cost many Canadian lives... the PM dissolves the body we all count on to represent our national interests...for the third time in three years.
It's the actions of Steven Harper that are making a mockery of our democratic system.
So the Ottawa press lobby was brought into line so we don't get any more of those embarassing sponataneous questions thrown at the PM and his ministers, the conservatives tried goto members in opposition ridings to try and circumvent the Parlimentary system from the base, protocols were established by the sitting government on how to disrupt OUR Parliment and when the government gets caught engaging in undemocratic behaviour...like lying about an ongoing military mission that has cost many Canadian lives... the PM dissolves the body we all count on to represent our national interests...for the third time in three years.
It's the actions of Steven Harper that are making a mockery of our democratic system.
And he'll switch from rhetorician mode to astroboy, er man, something like that. The android will save us! :smile:
Harper does not see himself as a political leader, instead he thinks he is CEO of Canada and simply views everyone else as his lessors. If he could, he would fire the whole of parliament and this is the only way he can achieve a semblance of that desire.
Oh will you guys PLEASE take a fricking VALIUM!!!!!
Prorogation was a political move.....gee, I'm so shocked! That a politician, involved in politics, would make a political move!! My, the world turned upside down!
The HORROR!!!
Gimme a break.
Prorogation is a perfectly legitimate move, made for a number of very good reasons......
1. To kill the idiotic Afghan detainee debate......which serves only to hand our enemies a propaganda victory, and solves nothing. The gov't has badly mishandled this file by its lack of honesty....but it is time to STFU on the subject....no detainees are being tortured by Canadians, and our troops are not involved in torture, either directly or knowingly indirectly. Full stop.
2. We have a huge deficit and a recovering economy....time for a new economic plan.
3. The Senate is Liberal-packed, and needs to be Conservative-packed to even things up on many committees and votes....including the Afghan BS abd the killing of the gun registry....talk about anti-democratic! Just look at the Senate.......
Prorogation is historically simply not a questionable activity.....that is all there is to it. It is completely normal and constitutional.....
Personally, the less time these thieves (ALL of them) spend sitting, the happier I am.....
Prorogation was a political move.....gee, I'm so shocked! That a politician, involved in politics, would make a political move!! My, the world turned upside down!
The HORROR!!!
Gimme a break.
Prorogation is a perfectly legitimate move, made for a number of very good reasons......
1. To kill the idiotic Afghan detainee debate......which serves only to hand our enemies a propaganda victory, and solves nothing. The gov't has badly mishandled this file by its lack of honesty....but it is time to STFU on the subject....no detainees are being tortured by Canadians, and our troops are not involved in torture, either directly or knowingly indirectly. Full stop.
2. We have a huge deficit and a recovering economy....time for a new economic plan.
3. The Senate is Liberal-packed, and needs to be Conservative-packed to even things up on many committees and votes....including the Afghan BS abd the killing of the gun registry....talk about anti-democratic! Just look at the Senate.......
Prorogation is historically simply not a questionable activity.....that is all there is to it. It is completely normal and constitutional.....
Personally, the less time these thieves (ALL of them) spend sitting, the happier I am.....
Well YJ, they do make a spectacle of themselves, for sure. Makes a person wonder about their stability as a "team"...
It's not about you Colpy, at least it wouldn't be if you weren't a good party man.
Yup. But the multiple reasons given have not been good reasons.
And if the people won't shut up, then Harper will force them to. Aye comrade....:roll:
Colvin didn't say that Canadians were torturing, that our troops were invovled in torture. He did say that officials were warned of what was going on. Subsequent documents backed him up. And now the issue is dead, by Harper's knife. Full stop.
They didn't need to prorogue to develop the first economic recovery plan. Do they have Alzheimer's? It's Parliament's duty to debate plans.
Even constitutional activity can be questionable given the circumstance Colpy. Think back about a year or so...
You're happier with giving the thieves time to develop an economic plan, outside of the debate afforded by Parliament. Gotcha Colpy. So long as it's your brand of thieves? :roll:
It is true, Colpy, that prorogation is entirely constitutional.
And usually, prorogations are requested for entirely appropriate and routine reasons (for example, as prorogued on several occasions by The Right Honourable Jean Chrétien P.C., O.M., C.C., Q.C., the 20th Prime Minister of Canada, when the agenda of the previous throne speech has been accomplished so that a new agenda can be presented to our elected representatives in the House of Commons). This is the intention of prorogation — to be used for routine administration, to clear the legislative agenda when the Government’s objectives have been achieved so that a new throne speech can be presented and the House of Commons can receive the Government’s next agenda.
This is not the case with the current prorogation.
The prime minister has recommended (and received) the prorogation of the Parliament of Canada so that the questions into the allegations of torture in the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan can be silenced — this is neither routine, nor appropriate. Prorogation is, in this case (and unlike the previous two prime ministers), a political ploy and nothing else — there is no legitimate reason for it. Your suggestion is frightening, Colpy: “Listen guys, if the Conservatives say it’s true, then it must be true — a public inquery would be treason! How dare you question the Conservatives’ integrity!”
Her Majesty’s Government for Canada, since its first mandate some years ago, has made an enemy of almost all Canadian institutions — they have waged war on the Honourable the Senate of Canada, they have written a book and distributed it to members on how to disrupt the House of Commons, they have openly declared the Supreme Court of Canada to be an obstacle for the Conservative agenda — really, they have openly stated that all pillars of Canadian governance are contrary to the prime minister’s values.
So, was the request appropriate? No.
But should he have been able to request it anyway? Yes, because that’s how our system of Government functions — and this is what provides the Canadian take on Westminster governance with the ability to flex and adapt to the day-to-day needs of the Canadian people and Her Majesty’s Government in its service to us. Prorogation may seem like only a small part of the constitutional puzzle, but it must remain as a component of our constitutional arrangements for us to enjoy the tremendous advantages that our constitutional monarchy provides for.
And usually, prorogations are requested for entirely appropriate and routine reasons (for example, as prorogued on several occasions by The Right Honourable Jean Chrétien P.C., O.M., C.C., Q.C., the 20th Prime Minister of Canada, when the agenda of the previous throne speech has been accomplished so that a new agenda can be presented to our elected representatives in the House of Commons). This is the intention of prorogation — to be used for routine administration, to clear the legislative agenda when the Government’s objectives have been achieved so that a new throne speech can be presented and the House of Commons can receive the Government’s next agenda.
This is not the case with the current prorogation.
The prime minister has recommended (and received) the prorogation of the Parliament of Canada so that the questions into the allegations of torture in the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan can be silenced — this is neither routine, nor appropriate. Prorogation is, in this case (and unlike the previous two prime ministers), a political ploy and nothing else — there is no legitimate reason for it. Your suggestion is frightening, Colpy: “Listen guys, if the Conservatives say it’s true, then it must be true — a public inquery would be treason! How dare you question the Conservatives’ integrity!”
Her Majesty’s Government for Canada, since its first mandate some years ago, has made an enemy of almost all Canadian institutions — they have waged war on the Honourable the Senate of Canada, they have written a book and distributed it to members on how to disrupt the House of Commons, they have openly declared the Supreme Court of Canada to be an obstacle for the Conservative agenda — really, they have openly stated that all pillars of Canadian governance are contrary to the prime minister’s values.
So, was the request appropriate? No.
But should he have been able to request it anyway? Yes, because that’s how our system of Government functions — and this is what provides the Canadian take on Westminster governance with the ability to flex and adapt to the day-to-day needs of the Canadian people and Her Majesty’s Government in its service to us. Prorogation may seem like only a small part of the constitutional puzzle, but it must remain as a component of our constitutional arrangements for us to enjoy the tremendous advantages that our constitutional monarchy provides for.
Bloody rat finks.
If your ship is full of shaved tails the easiest thing to do is nail the ports and torch it with all onboard.
We need a real democracy free of personal or party agenda.
If they want to be introduced to an agenda well then it's high time they were introduced to reality.
****ing wankers.
If your ship is full of shaved tails the easiest thing to do is nail the ports and torch it with all onboard.
We need a real democracy free of personal or party agenda.
If they want to be introduced to an agenda well then it's high time they were introduced to reality.
****ing wankers.