Socialists in a Panic

AnnaG

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Cool.
I forgot to mention that it sounded like someone fired off a small caliber rifle when the rocks shot out of that chimney.
 

lone wolf

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In the bush near Sudbury
Is that an old Hough? - clearing on the ice road, that is....

Thanks for the vid. You ought to see that up close and personal from the perspective of a workface collapse.
 
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Tonington

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There you have the answer to your question. They're tools for predicting.

If models are tools, what is the model output? A hammer is a tool, but the output is not.

It's evidence.

And there you have it again. They are based on evidence. They use data that is entered into them. They are not themselves evidence. And if the modler is corrupt, so will be the results of the model.

No, they use equations that are entered into them. The only data is the initialization of the model. Obviously you have to specify some starting point.

What tool do you suggest should be used for gathering experimental data?
 

Tonington

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Nah, we got under -40 quite often here. The winter of the first gulf war is memorable to me because that's the one where we reached -46C (50 below) right in downtown Prince George. Not at all pleasant.

Probably not for 6 weeks straight though, which is what I meant but wasn't clear on. Check out the monthly mean temperature data (download the text file) for Prince George. Nothing close to -40°C. My point is that there was never a time when 100% mortality was reached.
 

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If Obama and his fellow socialists don’t act now, they may miss their last chance to bring America under the heel of socialist government (at least under the excuse of global warming apocalypse).
But there’s one key truth that Obama and other socialists fail to properly appreciate: Americans aren’t compliant European sheep.
We’ll stand against this, and undo it if we have to.




Hateful prejudice as a closing argument!
 

Walter

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Viewers won’t remember but one thing about this interview: that a UAE scientist called a skeptic an “assh*le” on live television. It reveals just how rattled they are there at CRU.

Professor Andrew Watson (whose emails are in the Climategate emails) also adds a nice touch when he rolls his eyes, see if you can spot it.
Marc Morano explains:
A professor who is accusing global warming skeptics of engaging in “tabloid-style character assassination” of scientists, called an American climate skeptic “an assh*le” on the December 4, 2009 live broadcast of BBC’s Newsnight program.
“What an assh*le!” declared Professor Watson at the end of the contentious debate with Climate Depot’s executive editor Marc Morano. A clearly agitated Watson had earlier shouted to Morano “will you shut up.”

Video of BBC “Assh*le” clip here.
 

L Gilbert

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Yeah. It couldn't be that the person really is an a$$hole, could it?

"Excuse me, but you're an a$$hole. But it isn't because you're an a$$hole in character, it's because you disagree with me that you're an a$$hole." Yeah right. Get a grip.
Scientists are not in public relations. They do not speech-write for a living. They try to put things in terms that most people can understand. Impatient idiots that are used to shooting from the lip are bound to look better on tv in interviews.
 

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Viewers won’t remember but one thing about this interview: that a UAE scientist called a skeptic an “assh*le” on live television. It reveals just how rattled they are there at CRU.

All to the contrary! Insults are a perfect way to reveal that real science is not a question of image.
 

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lmao TV is a very good way to get messages out to a lot of people very quickly. If one cannot respect that idea, they aren't much of a thinker and have never read anything by people like Marshall McLuhan.

By the way, where is the Global Village!?
 

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Isn't that a shopping mall down near Kingston?
I am not sure, but I saw its mother on a painting one time. Ask her.