Conservative Government Attempts To Muzzle The Courts

[AnnaG]

fascism definition
fas·cism (fas̸h′iz′əm)
noun
1. the doctrines, methods, or movement of the Fascisti
2. a system of government characterized by rigid one-party dictatorship, forcible suppression of opposition, private economic enterprise under centralized governmental control, belligerent nationalism, racism, and militarism, etc.
3.
a. a political movement based on such policies
b. fascist behavior
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Sounds exactly the same as the definition of socialism.

It does?

Merriam-Webster says

Main Entry: so·cial·ism
Pronunciation: \ˈsō-shə-ˌli-zəm\
Function: noun
Date: 1837
1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2 a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
3 : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done

As much as I can see, socialism state can have a hundred parties, it does not necessarily use force against opposition, and there is NO private economic enterprise to control.

 

[JLM]

It does?

Merriam-Webster saysAs much as I can see, socialism state can have a hundred parties, it does not necessarily use force against opposition, and there is NO private economic enterprise to control.

Socialism can be good where everyone wants to pull his/her weight and contribute his/her share, but sadly I've seen aspects of "socialism" where some factions are adamant in having things their way and others' opinions don't count- in that aspect it's more like a dictatorship.

 

[AnnaG]

Socialism can be good where everyone wants to pull his/her weight and contribute his/her share, but sadly I've seen aspects of "socialism" where some factions are adamant in having things their way and others' opinions don't count- in that aspect it's more like a dictatorship.

Oh, I know socialism has its glitches, just as democracy does. That's usually a result of how it's interpreted by it's practitioners, though, not the philosophy itself. Fascism is socialistic but there is a difference.

 

[taxslave]

Oh, I know socialism has its glitches, just as democracy does. That's usually a result of how it's interpreted by it's practitioners, though, not the philosophy itself. Fascism is socialistic but there is a difference.

I was thinking of the B.C. NDP who are basically communists in Armani suits. They think democracy is a bunch of bureaucrats controlling every aspect of everyones lives.

 

[AnnaG]

I was thinking of the B.C. NDP who are basically communists in Armani suits. They think democracy is a bunch of bureaucrats controlling every aspect of everyones lives.

Aaahhh, the Dipper branch of the Mafia. Yes, good point.

 

[JLM]

Oh, I know socialism has its glitches, just as democracy does. That's usually a result of how it's interpreted by it's practitioners, though, not the philosophy itself. Fascism is socialistic but there is a difference.

You're probably right, I know very little about politics except that the vast majority are a bunch of rotten bastards with their snouts in the trough and their hands in our pockets. It doesn't matter much how they label themselves, "you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear"

 

[AnnaG]

You're probably right, I know very little about politics except that the vast majority are a bunch of rotten bastards with their snouts in the trough and their hands in our pockets. It doesn't matter much how they label themselves, "you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear"

Pretty much. Galbraith said, "Capitalism is man exploiting man. Communism is the reverse". Regardless of political brand, the public is the screwee and the pols are the screwers.

 

[Liberalman]

when a government decides not to obey Rule of Law like the Conservatives are constantly doing what type of government does it become?

 

[AnnaG]

Probably the same sort that allows scams and supports terrorists.

 

[Cliffy]

And under which classification does the present BC government fall?

 

[AnnaG]

And under which classification does the present BC government fall?

Scary.

 

[L Gilbert]

Scary.

lol Truth in humor.

 

[Avro]

And, in a desperate attempt to get back on target............the government has NOT defied the courts, they are appealing a court decision.

I believe we have passed the point where we can justify leaving Khadr in the USA.....unfortunately he hasn't croaked........the Americans have demonstrated an unsavoury determination to ignore their own constitution and the rules of a fair trial in his prosecution.....I have NO idea why they didn't just shoot him on the spot.

All that said.......the Court has NO BUSINESS interfering in the government's conduct of foreign affairs. Obviously, the court is way out of its jurisdiction.......

How do you know Khadr is even guilty?

Perhaps a fair trial would determine guilt or innocence.

 

[Colpy]

How do you know Khadr is even guilty?

Perhaps a fair trial would determine guilt or innocence.

Reading comprehension problems????

I didn't say he was guilty......in fact, I said he couldn't get a fair trial in the USA....as in "I believe we have passed the point where we can justify leaving Khadr in the USA.........the Americans have demonstrated an unsavoury determination to ignore their own constitution and the rules of a fair trial in his prosecution....."

Nor do I understand a trial for throwing a grenade at the US military.....after they dropped a 2000 kg bomb on you. Doesn't make sense.

At the same time, the Littlest Terrorist was a foreigner out of uniform fighting in Afghanistan......he could (and should) have been handed over to the tender mercies of Afghan justice...POW POW.

But he wasn't.

 

[Spade]

He was a child soldier. I believe Canada and the USA signed the UN protocols...

 

[Colpy]

He was a child soldier. I believe Canada and the USA signed the UN protocols...

Yeah....I have some sympathy with that view as well.....

 

[Realitychecque]

One feels constrained to remind you all that the "Conservative" party is no more save in name. What is now wearing winding cloth of the PCs is the Reform Party, with all it's warts, wens, boils, pustulences and white hooded party members. It is completely like Harper The Horrible to try to run rough-shod over the courts, remember, this is a small-minded, petty little tyrant who does not play well with others...ask Preston Manning.

 

[Cliffy]

One feels constrained to remind you all that the "Conservative" party is no more save in name. What is now wearing winding cloth of the PCs is the Reform Party, with all it's warts, wens, boils, pustulences and white hooded party members. It is completely like Harper The Horrible to try to run rough-shod over the courts, remember, this is a small-minded, petty little tyrant who does not play well with others...ask Preston Manning.

Hi Realitychecque. Welcome to CC. I like your style already.

 

[mabudon]

I have been sort of ticked off at our government appealing this decision repeatedly, and I wonder- if I were accused and convicted of say theft over 5000$ or whatever and ordered by the court to serve jail time, how long could I refuse the sentence and appeal it??
I am NOT trying to be a goofball here, but the Government seems to be proving that the ruling of a court is just like an opinion which only holds weight if the accused agrees
I am sure there are differences in the current Khadr situation and the hypothetical I posed, but I can't for the life of me properly understand them

 

[Avro]

Reading comprehension problems????

I didn't say he was guilty......in fact, I said he couldn't get a fair trial in the USA....as in "I believe we have passed the point where we can justify leaving Khadr in the USA.........the Americans have demonstrated an unsavoury determination to ignore their own constitution and the rules of a fair trial in his prosecution....."

Nor do I understand a trial for throwing a grenade at the US military.....after they dropped a 2000 kg bomb on you. Doesn't make sense.

At the same time, the Littlest Terrorist was a foreigner out of uniform fighting in Afghanistan......he could (and should) have been handed over to the tender mercies of Afghan justice...POW POW.

But he wasn't.

Silly....

He may have commited no crime yet you ponder why he wasn't shot for doing something he may not have done?