On the evolution of The Origin of Species

[AnnaG]

The thing is though, there are as many suppositions about the precise origins, and the mechanism that set it in place, as there are people. While you might read an article and think 'wow, a meteorite did it', another person might read that article and think 'wow, the hand of god was a meteorite.' The same information, two different conclusions. Multiply by the number of readers. lol.

I don't think a meteorite did it. lol I think stuff might just have eventually occurred by chance over the 14 some odd billions of years of the universe and virtually infinite possibilities of the various elements, compounds, and mixtures and conditions (leaving open the possibility of gods n stuff) to form a life of sorts. I'm in between what you mentioned, I guess. IOW, I am open to all manners of ideas.

 

[AnnaG]

To this day, nobody has refuted the experiment performed by Stanley Miller and Harold Urey. In fact it's been strengthened upon replication, with more sophisticated analytical tools and techniques that we have today. Given the conditions of ancient earth, it is possible to form amino acids...from there, it's all chemistry requiring time.

Exactly. You explained it a little more concisely than I just did, though. I'm a gabby sort, I guess. lol

 

[AnnaG]

I'm beginning to think that consciousness is in short supply (like common sense) and values seem to be deteriorating.

That ties in with my postulation that there is still more than one species of homo.

 

[Tonington]

I'm beginning to think that consciousness is in short supply (like common sense) and values seem to be deteriorating.

Common sense is abundant. Good sense is in short supply.

 

[AnnaG]

Common sense is abundant. Good sense is in short supply.

You've been talking with Les again, haven't you? lol But, you are right on the nail. Common sense told people that washing with water was bad so everyone doused themselves in perfume to hide the stench. 8O

 

[Tonington]

You've been talking with Les again, haven't you? lol But, you are right on the nail. Common sense told people that washing with water was bad so everyone doused themselves in perfume to hide the stench. 8O

I haven't seen Les online in a while...I guess great minds just think alike, or weak ones seldom differ. Meh, whatever. :smile:

 

[AnnaG]

I haven't seen Les online in a while...I guess great minds just think alike, or weak ones seldom differ. Meh, whatever. :smile:

He's back to playing with greasy things. Logging equipment repairs has been falling, but people are still needing construction equipment fixed n stuff. And I have this list of "stuff to do around home" ......

 

[petros]

I presume you mean consciousness? That seems a pretty doubtful claim to me. The only place we know it exists is here on earth, it certainly hasn't always been here, and there'll be a time when it won't be here again. We know of about 2 dozen things that appear to be constant, like the speed of light (which is actually the product of two other constants), the fine structure constant, and so forth, though we have no idea why they're constant or why they have the values they do.

Yeah, I noticed the typos when I got back. It was a good one. So how do any of those things that you say are constant exist without consciousness? They are only constant within our limited scope of observation A higher more evolved consciousness may be able to tinker with the speed of light for ****s and giggles.

 

[petros]

To this day, nobody has refuted the experiment performed by Stanley Miller and Harold Urey. In fact it's been strengthened upon replication, with more sophisticated analytical tools and techniques that we have today. Given the conditions of ancient earth, it is possible to form amino acids...from there, it's all chemistry requiring time.

Two things that we know of emit photons. Stars and DNA. I the "spark" required may not have been electric or from plasma as suspected but a form of fusion. Puts the dark/light thing into perspective. Without light we have no observable universe.

 

[Dexter Sinister]

So how do any of those things that you say are constant exist without consciousness?

Existence doesn't require consciousness. Our awareness of them can't exist without consciousness, that's pretty much the definition of consciousness, but there *is* a reality out there that exists regardless of anyone's awareness of it. It was here long before we showed up to observe it, and it'll be here long after we're gone.

 

[Dexter Sinister]

Two things that we know of emit photons.

Every object above a temperature of absolute zero emits photons.

 

[Lou Garu]

Two things that we know of emit photons. Stars and DNA. I the "spark" required may not have been electric or from plasma as suspected but a form of fusion. Puts the dark/light thing into perspective. Without light we have no observable universe.

Light is not required for observation eg: sound , taste, touch .Or you are commenting on the radiative nature of the universe ?
addendum: I had to re-read the posts. I withdraw the question.