Should Quebec separate from Canada?

[no color]

Well, In Montréal i french can live whitout speak english, like a english can live whitout learning french.
But i think its more complicated for the english, i think.

I agree with the first part of your post above. If you live on the east side of Montreal, then French is almost a requirement (unless you live in some English speaking pockets on the north east side). However if you live on the west side of Montreal (West End or the West Island), then English is almost a requirement.

 

[brock]

wow have any of you thought about new brunswick/labrador, p.i ,nova scotia or newfoundland if quebec seperates than they will be cut off from the rest of canada and then what what about the rcaf ppl in quebec? see if quebec seperates itl take the planes and the tanks(if there are any) and whatever else before we can and than thel probably cause a war by invading the cut off provinces and so on

 

[brock]

wow have any of you thought about new brunswick/labrador, p.i ,nova scotia or newfoundland if quebec seperates than they will be cut off from the rest of canada and then what what about the rcaf ppl in quebec? see if quebec seperates itl take the planes and the tanks(if there are any) and whatever else before we can and than thel probably cause a war by invading the cut off provinces and so on

and im a montrealer and i will be angry iff quebec seperates.... itl be the canadien version of getysburg.....(xept therl be planes and tanks) so bad idea!!! and NOBODY MESSES WITH OUR CF-18S OR ELSE OR I WILL really get ticked off im a pilot at cold lake alberta and by the time quebec tries seperating the f-35s will be in! and they wont know what hit them

 

[ironsides]

Real question should you all unite and become a real Canadian Nation?

 

[lone wolf]

and im a montrealer and i will be angry iff quebec seperates.... itl be the canadien version of getysburg.....(xept therl be planes and tanks) so bad idea!!! and NOBODY MESSES WITH OUR CF-18S OR ELSE OR I WILL really get ticked off im a pilot at cold lake alberta and by the time quebec tries seperating the f-35s will be in! and they wont know what hit them

Pilot?

 

[brock]

well alberta has cold lake so it wouldent leave

 

[brock]

unless it gives back all the planes

 

[brock]

yeah i am

 

[VanIsle]

Real question should you all unite and become a real Canadian Nation?

Ironsides - that is what most of us would prefer. I don't know why anyone would think that if Quebecers separate, they get the land! The land belongs to Canada - a little like pension money etc.

 

[Cliffy]

unless it gives back all the planes

Looks like you have an itchy trigger finger.

 

[Nuggler]

You're not accurate in your post above. Most of the long established immigrants that came to Quebec around the turn of the century had no or very little knowledge of English before arriving and have successfully integrated as as part of the English speaking citizens living in Montreal. Look at the Jews, Italians, Greeks, Polish, Ukranian ...etc). Most of these immigrants who are now second, third, forth, even fifth generation immigrants have fully assimilated into the English speaking community.

You also note above that you live in Montreal and don't need to speak English. You obviously don't work in the public service. My case is quite the opposite, I was born in Montreal and grew up here and my French isn't very good, so I use English in my day to day life. No problem as most French speaking Montrealers are bilingual.

So who cares and fukk you. I don't live in that shytehole. never would. Polish, Greek, awww .........................just too stupid.

 

[lone wolf]

yeah i am

What do you pilot?

 

[Cannuck]

Should Kweebeck separate from Canada?

Yes.

 

[Machjo]

Real question should you all unite and become a real Canadian Nation?

That's a little hard to do when most in English Canada can't speak French and most in French Canada can't speak English. I remember reading a story of a French-English bilingual US journalist in Montreal. He'd invited some local couples over for dinner. To his surprise, the dinner was very quiet, because he hadn't realised untl then that the English-speaking couple couldn't speak French, and the French-speaking couple couldn't speak English. It's hard to buid real unity when we can't even access our minds. It's like Espanol in the US.

 

[In Between Man]

Should Quebec separate from Canada?

My preference is that the country should stay together, obviously. But if their going to continue questioning there loyalty to Canada, then I think it would be best for the rest of the nation if they did leave. Griping and threatening a referendum every so often only makes Canada look weak and unattractive to foreign investors. Canada can be strong without Quebec.

 

[FiveParadox]

Re: Exodus of Québec

Québec is a key component of Canada.

Québec makes a big deal about the maintenance of Québécois culture—however, I would venture to suggest that Québécois culture would be more threatened should Québec ever become a sovereign state on its own. An integral part of Québec’s character is the French-English relationship, and were Québec to become sovereign, I would venture to guess that the rights of English Québeckers would be dangerously eroded (moreso than Québec has already done).

I think that with Québec, Canada is greater than the sum of its parts—we are an extremely unique and strong nation, and I hope that one day Québeckers can be proud of the nation that they have helped to shape. Canada is as much Québec’s home as it is the other provinces’, and I want to see the society of Québec accept this fact and move forward for a more prosperous Canadian future (inclusive of a strong, and Canadian, Québec).

And, of course, there is the constitutional question of how Québec might secede, even if there were a passed referendum—there is no constitutional mechanism whereby a referendum is law. My interpretation of the Constitution Act, 1982 is that the exodus of a province out of the Confederation would need the consent of seven out of ten of the Legislative Assemblies of the Provinces (out of which the Legislative Assembly of Ontario, the National Assembly of Québec, and the Legislative Assembly of British Columbia would each have an absolute veto), the House of Commons, the Honourable the Senate of Canada (subject to s. 47(1) of the Constitution Act, 1982) and the assent of the Governor General of Canada (subject to the veto of Her Majesty The Queen of Canada).

 

[Ron in Regina]

If Quebec really wanted to be sovereign, and voted itself in a referendum
into actually committing to more than just threatening to maybe separate,
I think it would have no problem getting at least seven provinces to endorse
that decision....whether Quebec really wanted them to or not.

If Quebec wants out of Canada, I'd say, "See ya'!!!" and then I'd laugh and laugh
and laugh....pausing only long enough to blow the occasional raspberry. :lol::lol::lol:

 

[FiveParadox]

Re: Québec Sovereignty

If Quebec really wanted to be sovereign, and voted itself in a referendum
into actually committing to more than just threatening to maybe separate,
I think it would have no problem getting at least seven provinces to endorse
that decision....whether Quebec really wanted them to or not.

I would hope not!

The passage of a provincial referendum on Québec separation wouldn’t be something that would suddenly change the sovereignty landscape, in my opinion; the Supreme Court of Canada has concluded that the passage of a referendum would only necessitate consultations on the issue of provincial separation. The Government would not be bound by any such referendum, or even any motion of the National Assembly, simply due to the paramountcy of the Constitution Acts, 1867–1982, and the Parliament of Canada.

The separation of a province would be a national event—one which would have consequences for the entire nation, and the entire nation’s people. I consider Québec to be just as much home to me as I do British Columbia; I would hope that there are many, many Canadians who share that sentiment. I would fervently combat any attempts to take Québec out of the Canadian landscape, unless the people of Canada were to come to that decision reasonably, and with the appropriate resolutions of the Legislative Assemblies, the Commons, and the Senate. (I would also love to engage in a debate on whether the Governor General or The Queen would have an active role, perhaps even a duty, to veto such a separation to respect treaties that exist between The Crown of Canada and First Nations peoples.

If Quebec wants out of Canada, I'd say, "See ya'!!!" and then I'd laugh and laugh
and laugh....pausing only long enough to blow the occasional raspberry. :lol::lol::lol:

As I’ve said, I would combat any attempt to partition Canada.

I have no doubt that Canada would lament such a separation for centuries.

 

[jambo101]

If a vote for separation ever did occur the ensuing legal chaos of what Quebec was allowed to leave with would be tied up in the courts for the next 20 years..

 

[turubawebmaster]

if the persecution of english quebecers would be stopped, we would all get along better