NorthAmerican SuperHighway

[bluedog]

I wanted to share my concerns about this north south superhighway. I wondered what the Canadiens feel would be the ratio of benefit to pain in the neck.

As I have said I lived in the Kansas City area for years. I-35 was just about outside my window. Personally I have watched local television reports and read police blotters about Mexican long haul drivers who have little respect for the driving laws and even common sense courtesy like following distance, weaving in tight traffic and the use of turn signals.

The border patrol has found examples of truckers packing illegals into the back of containers that exceed one hundred degrees. Drugs are often interdicted. I am sure the instances are not daily, at least I hope so. What worries me is that if this highway gets its eight lanes or whatever, numbers of incidences as well as easy access to east west highways would make our country even more criminally dangerous and I am sure broaden the opportunity and the reach of mexican gang activity, eventually this north south route will be exposing Canada to more of what we are experiencing today.

What is the Benefit of this commerce pipeline to your country? Was it too- passed- all too quickly through your political approvals and checks and balances? The route through the USa has been well known but I have wondered how far it would reach through your country? I would imagine it wants easy access to your rich woodlands, oil company exploitation, and mining, as well as the rich harvests of the midwest interior.

Is this a popular idea? Which political system proposed it? Which supports and opposes said access?

Please brothers, please, suggest for me internet links to your favorite newspapers, regional and national? Liberal and Conservative please. Generally speaking, would I be correct to assume the French Provinces to be the liberal left? Or does the Church have influence thus making it a more constrictive right wing? You can see I need the education... I would assume the latter, given the frontier mentality of the western reach here in this country and Alaska. The french poliical system overseas is the cradle of liberalism though... so... well... lol.

Thank you for your considerations and time. :fish:

 

[Ron in Regina]

A North American Super Highway(s) would still have Borders, Customs, etc...

 

[lone wolf]

From where I sit, they better build that road through to Brazil - where Inco is headquartered now.

 

[Machjo]

A North American Super Highway(s) would still have Borders, Customs, etc...

Eactly. So what's the point of a Superhighway to reduce traffic if customs will bring the traffic back anyway?

Besides, don't we have an adequate North American highway system already? If the problem is too much traffic at certain places, then raise the gas tax. It'll solve that problem.

 

[lone wolf]

Send some union organizers to Mexico and the use for that highway will be doubtful.

 

[darkbeaver]

The problem is that it's not rail, but the proponents of SPP and NAU don't care about efficiency they only care about financial profit.

 

[lone wolf]

The problem is that it's not rail, but the proponents of SPP and NAU don't care about efficiency they only care about financial profit.

Have you looked at a CN Rail system map?

It's not far off that now....

 

[darkbeaver]

 

[bluedog]

From where I sit, they better build that road through to Brazil - where Inco is headquartered now.

Whats Inco? I will google it but it would nice to hear from you. Links. :fish:

 

[bluedog]

Send some union organizers to Mexico and the use for that highway will be doubtful.

American Mobsters helped build Unions here to fight exploitation and yeah, get there kick backs from the workers instead of the companies. Mexican gangs? I wish they would, keep their brothers down there. I don't think that is the plan though.:fish:

 

[Cliffy]

This is all starting to sound like B grade SiFi movie - Escape from LA? The more I see what is going on, the more I see SiFi as prophetic. The world is suffering fro "crowded rat syndrome", not a breakdown in morals or family values. Pretty soon we will be eating our own children. (...and yes bluedog, this is not in god's plan.)

 

[lone wolf]

Whats Inco? I will google it but it would nice to hear from you. Links. :fish:

International Nickel Company - now Vale Inco. Recently taken over by a Brazillian company. Half their people are out of work due to the recession and facing bleak prospects now that Voiceys Bay open pit mine is producing lower sulphur-content ores - and as of Sunday are on strike to retain nickel bonuses and pension packages.

 

[lone wolf]

American Mobsters helped build Unions here to fight exploitation and yeah, get there kick backs from the workers instead of the companies. Mexican gangs? I wish they would, keep their brothers down there. I don't think that is the plan though.:fish:

I'm thinking more in line with organizing Mexican workers so the cost of labour makes it less profitable for industry to relocate ... because we all know Canadian/American employees are loathe to take cuts in wages and benefits.

 

[Goober]

Have you looked at a CN Rail system map?

It's not far off that now....

Does this map include the new lines that CN purchased around the Chicago area

 

[Ron in Regina]

Eactly. So what's the point of a Superhighway to reduce traffic if customs will bring the traffic back anyway?

Besides, don't we have an adequate North American highway system already? If the problem is too much traffic at certain places, then raise the gas tax. It'll solve that problem.

Ummm...this economic downturn has absolutely smacked the Trucking
Industry up side the head in a truly dirty way. We already pay through the
nose in road & fuel taxes & tolls & apportioned plating & commercial
Insurance (truck, trailer, cargo, liability, & compensation) and permits
and so on and so forth. Margins are skinnier than skinny at this point.

Here's your Fuel Tax, and it's already ugly enough (Trust me on this one).

Here's the simple version: International Fuel Tax Agreement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Here's a more detailed version with links if you're curious:
International Fuel Tax Agreement (IFTA) - Finance -

 

[lone wolf]

Does this map include the new lines that CN purchased around the Chicago area

Illinois Central/Gulf, Mobile & Ohio (ICG) is shown as CN. I don't know if EJ&E would show at that scale, but it sure makes moves around Chicago easier.

 

[Ron in Regina]

Ummm...this economic downturn has absolutely smacked the Trucking
Industry up side the head in a truly dirty way. We already pay through the
nose in road & fuel taxes & tolls & apportioned plating & commercial
Insurance (truck, trailer, cargo, liability, & compensation) and permits
and so on and so forth. Margins are skinnier than skinny at this point.

Here's your Fuel Tax, and it's already ugly enough (Trust me on this one).

Here's the simple version: International Fuel Tax Agreement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Here's a more detailed version with links if you're curious:
International Fuel Tax Agreement (IFTA) - Finance -

Normally, one quarter of my time (annually) is spent on tracking IFTA
to submit quarterly reports for a fleet of trucks. I kid you not.
These are not normal times though...

 

[bluedog]

I'm thinking more in line with organizing Mexican workers so the cost of labour makes it less profitable for industry to relocate ... because we all know Canadian/American employees are loathe to take cuts in wages and benefits.

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The bank of Mexico is the number one profit making corporation in Mexico by far. Second the nations Oil resources. That bank unashamedly makes it money from thousands and thousands of illegals, some not, who send american dollars home to provide for family and hopefully buy a home to return to and live in relative luxury.
These people do honestly stack 15-20 workers in a three bedroom USa apartment while each person works a different shift. They live in squalor here as they do at home. My wife was in property management in Kansas City and has dealt with these lease twisters and hired cleaning companies to try to refurbish the units when the illegals left, to go home in the winter months. They rarely occupied for the entire term of the lease, handing it over to more of the same.

The young gang members that I talk to were not shy about the mexican point of view. They seek to pillage the economic system while there is no enforcement of immigration laws, use the liberal welfare system to put on additional strain while birthing mexican american children which cannot be sent home. They all mention the war with Mexico, the land cessations to the USa and an undetailed plot to take over the USa in its attitudes by refining laws by majority and commiting to neighboring economic partnerships that will make Mexico a new strong figure on the world stage.

It seems someone in Washington likes the idea.:fish:

 

[taxslave]

The problem is that it's not rail, but the proponents of SPP and NAU don't care about efficiency they only care about financial profit.

That is the whole point. It is not rail. It is fast and economical. Ever try to ship some thing by rail? You will be old and grey long before you get your produce. We recently had a large machine trucked from Orlando Fa. to B.C. It cost $30000 and took a week. Rail was about $22000 and would have been two months. Ship was cheapest but would have been next century before we got it.

 

[lone wolf]

That is the whole point. It is not rail. It is fast and economical. Ever try to ship some thing by rail? You will be old and grey long before you get your produce. We recently had a large machine trucked from Orlando Fa. to B.C. It cost $30000 and took a week. Rail was about $22000 and would have been two months. Ship was cheapest but would have been next century before we got it.

Rail shines brightest in the shipment of bulk commodities - as in raw timber and ore. I expect processed Voiceys Bay ores will soon bypass Quebec City and stay on the boat to Brazil.