The US is a piker. The Christian god's killed zillions. The US has a long way to go before it's a god. Canadeh even farther.
More than 1,000,000 people have died result of the US led Iraq invasion!
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You are all still only guessing at how many may or may nor have ben killed if junior had not invaded. Perhaps there would have been one million Israilis killed. We don't know. How about some of the minorities that were in Iraq? Maybe there would be nothing left of them by now? But I guess you would be OK with that.
That's some of the stupiest reasoning I'v ever read. So you murder a million Iraqis to save a non existant potential million Israeli deaths. Well I hope they're feeling safer now.
War must be justified by facts. Unsupported speculation about the future could be used to justify nearly every war crime and crime against humanity ever committed.
My position is that war would be justified if Iraq actually had attacked another country. It might even be justified if Iraq was threatening to attack another country and diplomacy had failed. But at the time of the US invasion, Iraq wasn't attacking anyone or threatening to attack anyone. Iraq wasn't even a credible threat to anyone including Israel. UN weapon inspectors were about to officially declare that Iraq no longer possessed a WMD capability and was in compliance conditions for lifting economic sanctions. Two years before the invasion, both Powell and Rice claimed Iraq was no threat:
Both Colin Powell, US Secretary of State, and Condoleezza Rice, President Bush's closest adviser, made clear before September 11 2001 that Saddam Hussein was no threat - to America, Europe or the Middle East.
Humanitarian intervention might be warranted if the Iraq government was actually committing atrocities or about to commit atrocities. But at the time of the US invasion, Iraq was peaceful. The government wasn't even executing people convicted of capital crimes or treason, let alone crushing insurrections. No evidence exists to support your belief that Iraq was about to start committing atrocities.
Human Rights Watch
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Well as I said... "I'd say about 50% think like you here in America". Just a guess.
You just made it. Bush is just as guilty of war crimes and crimes against humanity as the people you listed.
If your point is that Bush isn't the greatest war criminal of all time, I would agree. He's probably in the top 20. However, he probably is the world's greatest living war criminal. Can you name someone living who is responsible for more innocent deaths as a result of starting an unprovoked war? I can't think of anyone off hand.
Some additional observations:
Americans never elected and re-elected any of the people you mention.
Many Americans still haven't recognized that Bush is in the same category as the people you listed.
Its unlikely Bush will ever be held accountable for his crimes, just like the people you list.
No he is not.
That's not his point.
He's not even a war criminal
You're right.
He's not
What crimes?
More than 10 million died as a direct result of the Christian god according to the holey (no, that isn't a spelling error) Bible. And then there's a lot since people quit adding chapters to the Bible.
Are you and Yukon Jack the same person or are you a mind reader? I believe Yukon Jack's point was that killing a million people is no big deal as other world leaders are responsible for far more deaths. Its just a few hundred thousand more than were killed in Rwanda.
Starting an unprovoked and unjustified war is a war crime. When pressed even the UN Secretary General had to admit it:
An illegal war is a war crime.
Consider this definition:
War of Aggression:
The case against George W. Bush is pretty overwhelming. But if you'd like to defend his actions.... feel free. I'd welcome the debate.
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Now, how can Dubbya be guilty when he was only following orders from his god? Let's get serious here! ;-)
lol EA1, as much as people generally like to plunk GWB squarely at the top of the heap concerning the Iraq war issue, he was just a puppet. Cheney, Bremer, etc.'s puppet to be exact. Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeh
GWB doesn't have the wherewithall for that scale of craptitude.
GWB doesn't have the wherewithall for that scale of craptitude.
I agree, the entire gang should be rounded up and brought before the Hague. George the Texacutioner Bush has it coming as much as anyone. But that will never happen unless the American people suddenly get a conscience. ES is typical.
But should any members of the Bush regime ever travel to Spain, they could be arrested:
Nobody Expects the Spanish Prosecution | Mother Jones
Canada also has similar laws as Spain regarding war crimes, crimes against humanity and universal jurisdiction. In theory Bush and Co. could also be arrested in Canada. Someone would have to make the case before a Canadian court.
With the speed our various bureaucracies work, I'd be surprised if that procedure lasted any less than generations. And the culprits would laugh anyway.
Not to my knowledge.
Are you and Logic the same person? Quandry?
I usually bring up Rwanda to turn tables on self righteous Canadians like yourself. Not ALL Canadians mind you. The ones that just make up figures (like 1 Million) and blame every death on the US.
So I just say "What about the 1 Million Rwandans that Canada killed"
Of course someone will say... "That's proposterous!"
I'll say "Why? You were there and in charge...so the deaths are your responsibility...just like it is ours in Iraq."
BaddaBING!
Not overwhelming at all. Because George is in Texas on the ranch and no charges have been brought up.
He doesn't have it coming. He's kicking back having a beer on the ranch!
Spain dropped that silly arrest warrant. They aren't going to arrest ANYONE!
Bush was just up in Canada and collected 150K of Loonies for speaking.
Lotsa talk...ZERO ACTION.
Bush and Co. at the Hague! :lol::lol::lol: