Michael Jackson dead at 50
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Yeah, what's the point of the 'crotch' grabbing, can someone finally tell me
that. I do understand it when a 4 year old does it, and we quickly escort them
to the bathroom, watching someone perform on stage, and they grab their
crotch, is one of the most classless moves I have ever seen. I guess all of us
over 50 have to finally die, and leave the enjoyment of that 'sight' to the ones
who are left.
Wrong choice of words, but the sentiment is the same... Personally, I am of the same mind as you on this issue - I just think that all of this hoopla is ridiculous in light of the guys despicable actions.
PS - For those that suggest that he was never convicted of the assumptions of child molestation, I'll say this.... Where there's smoke, there's fire.
It's not a suggestion, it's a fact, he was never convicted. Neither is it true that where there's smoke there's fire, that's tantamount to presuming anyone accused must be guilty. Read any of the supermarket tabloids lately? Often there's just smoke. People do make stuff up you know, and over-react, and if they think it'll get them something from a wealthy and famously eccentric and reclusive man... Well, I'm sure you can figure that one out.
Assuming he was what he appeared to be is no different that assuming he wasn't
what he appeared to be. A regular guy off the street, with young boys holed up in
his apartment would have his ass hauled in 'now', and unless he has a big bank roll,
he would have a hard time slithering out of it.
O.J. was found innocent too.
what he appeared to be. A regular guy off the street, with young boys holed up in
his apartment would have his ass hauled in 'now', and unless he has a big bank roll,
he would have a hard time slithering out of it.
O.J. was found innocent too.
The assumption must be, innocent until proven otherwise. We can't toss out so important a general principle on the basis of a few specific cases.
The world wanted his head and they didn't get it during his last trial. Instead it backfired on his accusers. But not until it took a slice out of his heart.
CNN is playing a piece on him right now, for those interested.
CNN is playing a piece on him right now, for those interested.
I was no fan of Michael Jackson's personal life but I did like some of his music. He was what he was, a child superstar that never grew up and became a media attraction looking for attention IMO.
There is no doubt Michael Jackson did not live a "normal life" but in that type of upbringing who does ?
Again IMO to me Michael in business and life was always the person others took advantage of. From his father to his record companies, financial advisers and newspapers / reporters. Heck even the father of the first kid suing him for Child abuse what caught saying
That said, Michael Jackson's musical talent and historical achievements, will survive and shake the freaky lifestyle he lived only to be brought up by those who like to bring up the negative side of people in the future.
Because we all know it's all about MONEY..
There is no doubt Michael Jackson did not live a "normal life" but in that type of upbringing who does ?
Again IMO to me Michael in business and life was always the person others took advantage of. From his father to his record companies, financial advisers and newspapers / reporters. Heck even the father of the first kid suing him for Child abuse what caught saying
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Michael Jackson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
That said, Michael Jackson's musical talent and historical achievements, will survive and shake the freaky lifestyle he lived only to be brought up by those who like to bring up the negative side of people in the future.
Because we all know it's all about MONEY..
No, the law says, innocent until proven guilty. Can't do anything about that, have to accept the verdict.
If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and all the evidence shows that it is
a duck, it is a duck.
I followed those cases as closely as I possibly could, and just because the verdict
came down as 'innocent', I'm not going to say, ok then he is innocent.
If verdict had been 'guilty', there are those who would have disbelieved even that.
Of course we can't toss out the principle of innocent till proven guilty, but
we certainly, on the basis of all of the evidence, come to our own conclusions,
and be quite sure about our thoughts.
Many times one set of lawyers is much 'sharper' and 'craftier' than the other,
it is a game with them, they compete with each other to win. Winning is
everything to them, more money, and new clients.
Not that I care about the celebrity case that sparked it, but this comment caught my eye.
On a societal level, I agree. On a personal level, I have condemned people in my own mind for crimes they haven't even yet committed. People I won't leave my kids with because they look at them wrong, people who are acquitted of a crime that my gut tells me they did.
As humans we live at two levels... the level we want our governments and justice systems to run at, rational and precise. And the level that we live our own lives at, emotional and based on gut feeling. They aren't the same thing. We need to recognize that.
It seems to be difficult to get a simple concept through people's thick skulls. We are talking two standards here, one for the courts in convicting a person and another entirely to be used in making decisions in our own personal lives. I don't give a rat's ass if I can prove he's a kiddy diddler- in my mind he is, so if there was a decision to made to let my grandkids sleep with him the answer is NO- but it's a mute point now. It's a strange, strange world when talent trumps common decency. (Funny we haven't heard a peep out of S,J. in all this, it would have been a good opportunity for him to demonstrate his tolerance) I know you are peeking S,J.
Like O.J. Simpson, who I think was guilty as hell, some defendants are guilty no matter what the jury says. I don't give much weight to the results of a celebrity court case. It's fine to say "Innocent until proven guilty", but if one has millions of dollars to pay expert witnesses to obfuscate the evidence and muddy the waters, the resulting decision, like the O.J. trial, is meaningless except that a killer has escaped justice.
Added to the fact that honest people are often timid, so there are no restraints on these characters.
Michael Jackson's never been so stiff since Macauley Culkin slept over at his place.
His grieving family were thinking about cremating his body until they discovered that all the local crematoriums don't accept plastic.
And he's only been dead a few weeks but there have been reports that his ghost has already been since at the local children's hospital, putting the willies up the kids.
His grieving family were thinking about cremating his body until they discovered that all the local crematoriums don't accept plastic.
And he's only been dead a few weeks but there have been reports that his ghost has already been since at the local children's hospital, putting the willies up the kids.
