Michael Jackson dead at 50
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Once again, you are going against the popular movement.
Let me tell you fools they are not, music lovers they are, and Jackson’s music is a long train, you will never get on.
Yes oh yes, Risus. A real sicko. No tears here.:angry3:
Now, Farrah; that be a different thing. :-(
Farrah's story is a sad one. I've nothing nice to say about Michael
Jackson (and he has passed away). So I've not commented on any
of the three Threads regarding this today beyond "Farrah's story is
a sad one."
There you go, making a big A$$umption again. I like some of his music. But, you are right, I don't have much faith in the popular thing. I like a lot of Sinatra's music, too, but that doesn't mean I have to like the bigmouth.
Not really. Just realistic.
If my liking someone's music hinged on whether I liked the person or not, I'd be spending my life trying to meet J S Bach, Billy Holiday, Oscar Petersen, Jimi Hendrix, etc. and missing an awful lot of good music
If my liking someone's music hinged on whether I liked the person or not, I'd be spending my life trying to meet J S Bach, Billy Holiday, Oscar Petersen, Jimi Hendrix, etc. and missing an awful lot of good music
Some of my fave musical acts are comprised of total A-holes (KISS being the main one)
I love their music and wish them no ill will
Despite being a metal guy overall, I truly dig several of Jacksons tunes, they are oddly almost unclassifiable genre-wise.
Sure he hasn't done anything notable in years but seriously the guy made some HUGE waves for all the right reasons when he was big- and also, despite his massive bankroll, I feel sorry for the man- I am poor as a churchmous but am of sound mind and happier than I could have ever hoped with my life overall- Michael Jackson had "it all" but had some SERIOUS demons which seem to have been the end of him. RIP to MJ and thanks for the funk
I love their music and wish them no ill will
Despite being a metal guy overall, I truly dig several of Jacksons tunes, they are oddly almost unclassifiable genre-wise.
Sure he hasn't done anything notable in years but seriously the guy made some HUGE waves for all the right reasons when he was big- and also, despite his massive bankroll, I feel sorry for the man- I am poor as a churchmous but am of sound mind and happier than I could have ever hoped with my life overall- Michael Jackson had "it all" but had some SERIOUS demons which seem to have been the end of him. RIP to MJ and thanks for the funk
Actually he did have lots, but he also squandered like money grew on trees and borrowed massively.
At one point Jackson was worth close to $1 billion (£600 million) with his songs from the 1980s generating £180 million in royalties. He earned a further £200 million from concerts, publishing, endorsements, merchandising and music videos.
He bought The Beatles back catalogue in 1985 for £28 million, outbidding Sir Paul McCartney.
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However, ten years later when he first hit financial difficulties, he sold half of the archive back to Sony. The 50 per cent stake he retained is now worth £300 million on paper but this is mortgaged to the hilt.
Jackson was around £200 million in debt when he died. Nevertheless, there will now be a long legal battle over the remains of his fortune and his three children.
The financial decline began in 1988 with the £10 million acquisition of the 2,600-acre Neverland estate, which has been abandoned since his 2005 child molestation trial. It is the enduring monument to Jackson's life of excess and rise and fall from superstar to disturbed eccentric. The ranch cost around £145,000 a month to operate.
Despite the not guilty verdict in the child molestation case neither Jackson's reputation or finances recovered after he made a settlement of around £16.5 million with Jordy Chandler, 13, one of his accusers. During the trial, the scale of Jackson's financial problems emerged but he continued to live the life of a superstar travelling with an 15-strong entourage in private jets and staying in hotel suites at £7,000-a-night. He spent hundreds of thousands of pounds on doctors', dermatologists, and plastic surgeons and indulging his passion for electronic gadgets and Neverland.
As far back as the mid 1990s, when he was still recording and performing, he had to sell to Sony half the Beatles catalogue. As his fortune vanished he secured more than £160 million of loans against his remaining stake in the Beatles archive which owned the rights to songs including Yesterday and Hey Jude. The monthly payments on the loans were £2.7 million.
The catalogue – and other publishing rights – were Jackson's last big asset which will be the centre of court battles over whether they should pass to his children, Prince Michael, 12, Paris, 11, and Prince Michael II, 7, commonly known as Blanket. The first two children were by his second wife Debbie Rowe, a nurse. As part of her multi-million pound divorce settlement, she relinquished any rights to access to her children. The identity of the mother of his third child has never been divulged.
It is now expected there will be a legal battle over who gets custody of the children. The singer's mother, Katherine, wants to care for all three of them. However, friends said Jackson said he wanted the nanny to have them should he die. Grace Rwaramba, 42, worked for Jackson for nearly 20 years, and is so close to the children they call her "mom".
Miss Rowe may also decide to fight for the custody of Prince Michael and Paris.
Brian Oxman, the Jackson family lawyer, said: "I suspect that the death of Michael Jackson is only the beginning of the legal battles over not only his property, but also his children."
On trips to London he always went to Harrods and Hamleys spending up to £80,000 in each store. In Martin Bashir's television documentary the singer was filmed spending £600,000 in one day even though there had been a precipitous decline of CD sales. But the spending continued as he tried to buy the bones of Joseph Merrick, the "Elephant Man", for £600,000 and made a £5 million divorce settlement with his second wife.
Alvin Malnik, a former adviser, said: "Michael never had any concept of fiscal responsibility. If you want to take a trip to London, that's one thing. If you want to have your entourage of 15 to 20 people with you, it gets expensive."
In 2006 he moved to Bahrain but inevitably that caused even more problems. He was sued for £4.6 million by Prince Abdullah of Bahrain for allegedly reneging on a deal to make a record and produce a Broadway show. He ended his days in a rented mansion in Los Angeles which was once owned by Sir Sean Connery.
At the end he was fighting an array of lawsuits from former business associates and settled with one over a £29 million payment that was allegedly owed for refinancing.
Jackson once said: "It's the entertainment world, full of thieves and crooks. Everybody knows that." In the end though, everybody who knew Jackson also knew that the world's most successful recording artist was no longer even a millionaire though he lived like a billionaire.
I can recall seeing a clip on TV of him going through an art gallery saying I'll take that, that and that, etc. He had no concept of what he was actually spending.
I'll admit I had a poster of MJ ..The Billy Jean 1 ...Friends saw it used to bug me about it ..But back in the 80"s I didn't care ..M.J. was cool..!! My name Is B.J.!..;-)..So Gettin teased about havn an Mj. poster was nothin much!..:lol:
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I know a couple people who had been taking medication for their back ,mixed it with a pain killer ..flu medication ..and bam.Heart failure.comma!...Medical drugs have gotten outta hand..My ma pops pills like thier goin outta style nowadays .Estogen /uppers/blood pressure pills...1 drink ..She's insane..
All prescribed by 1 Dr...
A lot of dr.'s have become glorified drug pushers with P.H.D's nowadays..
The medical communitee is where the war on drugs should be focused..!..
M.J. and many others have fallen due to prescibed drugs..I am sure it won't end any time soon..Good $$ in it..
Never mind nailin people for small quantities on Pot..That's nothin compared to people O.D.n on presciptions..Shady Docs seem to have Got everyone up to seniors hooked...But that's confidential ...Good luck findin the proof..Only dr can get that info..Not even patients can get a hold of their own records nowadays..
R.I.P M.J..
All prescribed by 1 Dr...
A lot of dr.'s have become glorified drug pushers with P.H.D's nowadays..
The medical communitee is where the war on drugs should be focused..!..
M.J. and many others have fallen due to prescibed drugs..I am sure it won't end any time soon..Good $$ in it..
Never mind nailin people for small quantities on Pot..That's nothin compared to people O.D.n on presciptions..Shady Docs seem to have Got everyone up to seniors hooked...But that's confidential ...Good luck findin the proof..Only dr can get that info..Not even patients can get a hold of their own records nowadays..
R.I.P M.J..
don't know if anyone else mentioned this, but a few days before Micheal Jackson and Farah Facet died, Ed McMahon also died at 86