Canada's worst ever Prime Minister

darkbeaver

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In Mulroney's case I would have to listen to the Canadian People who reduced Mulroney's majority to just two seats.

Kim Campbell was stupid enough to take the leader's job when it must have been obvious that the PCs were pretty well finished for a while anyway.

The PCs were finished forever.
 

taxslave

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What is interesting here JLM, following your train of thought, the question is born,
Why Trudeau when he died millions upon millions of people across Canada held mourning gatherings in the streets of Ottawa to say fair well, to a man that had great vision for his country.


Arrogant? ye maybe he was a tad, but looking at the time and the adversaries he was facing with the FLQ crisis, that, probably would make me also very arrogant to show anyone planning bad for the country will not be tolerated.

As for Mulroney, we witnessed during the end of his term people were placing dolls in the back window of their cars with a doll that resembled Mulroney and rope around his neck, so......................Trudeau to Mulroney comparison millions mourned Trudeau farewell and millions wanted to see Mulroney hung.
Harper also 1 1/2 terms and nothing but debt and deceptive political games.
In the west there was dancing in the streets. trudeau is the main reason the Alliance
party did so well. We never really intended to have them take power it was simply a protest rather like the rhino party only without the party. When you live in B.C. there was little difference between the Liberals and conservatives. they both steal from the west to buy votes in Ontario and Quebec.
 
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Walter

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As usual Walter can't get it right. Diplomats from around the world filed past Trudeau's casket for five or six hours. Jimmy Carter, Prince Andrew. Fidel Castro was there but he sure as hell wasn't the only one. I was there and I saw it.
As I said, no leaders except Fidel. The ones you listed are former leaders, hangers-on or wannabes.
 

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Look where world leaders have got us. The biggest problem I see is that people actually follow these morons. Trudeau did some great things and some really dumb things, but as far as world leaders go, he wasn't that bad. Take Nixon, Bush, Omar Kadaffi(?), Yasir Arafat, Maggy Thatcher, (PLEASE). The list of really bad leaders is pages long and what most people are oblivious of is that it has all been intentional. The one thing I admired about Trudeau was that he would not kiss ass, anybody's ass. For that he will always have a place of honour in my heart.

And all you Trudeau haters can kiss mine.:cool: :lol:
 
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I agree Socrates, but she was in a difficult position. There really was no way to salvage the PC party after the damage that Mulroney had done. Nothing that she could have done would had been good enough.

That is why threads like this are completely pointless. People tend to rewrite history to suit there own agendas. Not only was the PC party "salvageable", it was on it's way to another victory when Kim's infamous "elections are not a time to discuss issues" comment was made.
 

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In the west there was dancing in the streets. trudeau is the main reason the Alliance
party did so well.

Trudeau did some great things on the social side but western alienation and the rise of the Kweebeck separatists are a result of Trudeau and his policies. I believe the country will eventually disintegrate and Trudeau will carry most of the blame for planting the seeds. For that reason alone, he must be called the worst PM ever. Any person that can reverse the present course would be considered the greatest PM in my books.
 

#juan

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Sadly, love doesn't pay the bills, and as we are so keenly aware, Trudeau left us an insurmountable amount.

If the debt Trudeau left was insurmountable, (approximately 190 billion) what do you call the 450 billion that Mulroney added to the debt?. Why are the tories so myopic when it comes to their own disasters.
 

captain morgan

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We've gone through this juan... Trudeau's debt was amassed during good times, eclipsed in a recession and no plan ever existed in how it would be addressed. Factor in the obscene interest rate that was applicable to his debt (let alone the unfunded pensions) and you'll see the effect.

Further, unlike yourself, I apply the same critical anaylsis of the damage done by Mulroney - however, it is tempered by the obscene circumstances that Trudeau left - Why do you think that Trudeau voluntarily left office?

Open your eyes man... The math on this is incontravertable.
 

SirJosephPorter

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Why do you think that Trudeau voluntarily left office?
Open your eyes man... The math on this is incontravertable.

Captain are you implying some ulterior motive for Trudeau leaving office? You can’t be serious. The guy had been in power so long that he was practically a fixture in Ottawa. He kept winning again and again.

I remember in the 80s I lived in UK. After Trudeau had retired, the Labour leader Neil Kinnock had invited him to Britain and I was looking forward to attending his speech. Then all of a sudden Joe Clark lost the non confidence motion, Liberals drafted Trudeau again to lead them, he won the election and became the PM once again.

Trudeau had been in power so long that it was right and proper that he retire. Your Messiah should be lucky to stay in power that long.
 

SirJosephPorter

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Open your eyes man... The math on this is incontravertable.

Certainly the math is incontrovertible, Captain. Mulroney inherited a bad situation (190 billion $ debt, 20 billion $ deficit) and made it worse, much worse (40 billion $ deficit, 450 billion $ debt). No matter what kind of spin you put on it, try to convince us that Mulroney deficit was good deficit (and Trudeau deficit was bad deficit), the figures, the numbers don’t lie.

Mulroney made a bad situation worse. Chrétien took on the bad situation; the horrible mess left by Mulroney and cleaned it up.