Canada A Lackey To USA in Marc Emery Extradtition, Free Marc Emery!!!!!

earth_as_one

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Marijuana seeds are legal in Canada. American laws regarding marijuana seeds could be considered unreasonably harsh and as a result, Canada could deny the American extradtion request.

Lets put it this way. If a Canadian shipped cases of wine to Saudi Arabia, would we expect our government to extradite that person to Saudi Arabia for a flogging and hand amputation? I hope not. But the person should realize that wine is just as illegal in Saudi Arabia as marijuana seeds are in the US.

Emery should be punished for sending seeds to the US, but he should stay in Canada.

In general I support Emery's efforts to reform Canada's marijuana laws. This relatively safe recreational drug should be legally accessible, regulated and taxed.
 
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#juan

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Emery has been flaunting his illegal activities for years. He finally got caught. I don't feel too sorry for him because he knew he was breaking U.S. laws. There are close to a hundred thousand marijuana offenders in American jails. That should have been a hint.
 

EagleSmack

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Yeah when he was arrested they mentioned that the charges have a sentence that could turn into life in prison. For seeds.

The charges are intent to distribute marijuana, intent to distribute seeds, and money laundering. He has already plea bargained and will do 5 years with most of that being served in a Canadian Prison.

No not at all. The war on drugs is about bureaucracy keeping itself alive. It's about making a political career out of getting tough on crime, but instead of that, cherry picking the easy stuff, costing tax payers billions and making a mandate where none exists.

There is plenty of bureacracy to go around to keep law enforcement alive. Plenty of crimes and criminals.


How long do we sit and watch people killed over it before we decide to talk about it? Not to mention that $600 per second is spent on the War On Drugs.
You dig that value?

Do you mean drug dealers killing each other or something else?


People are of various degrees of intelligence. It doesn't have anything to do with Pot. If someone wants to orchestrate their demise, they will find a way to do it with whatever means they can. I would point out though, that Pot has never killed a single person in recorded history. Also, by far the majority of people who have smoked Pot don't go on to use hard drugs. The Gateway myth is just that.

I have to agree. I just had a childhood friend who started smoking but it led to a life of crime and drug use and eventually prison. However I am sure alcohol could have done the same thing.


It doesn't dull reality at all. If anything it intensifies it to a small extent. It is demotivational in some pursuits though, fighting, making more money, war it seems. In testing these are among the things that the subjects were not very interested in. Talking is something that in enhanced though along with thinking things over, relaxing and of course laughing.

No doubt... the high is good. Heck I enjoyed getting the high when I was younger but it was costly and very demotivational. I am laughing thinking back...songs did sound better and all that.


Medical Pot has to come from somewhere. :lol: One plant is not like the next. There are now "strains" of plants just as there are different kinds of beer, wine or spirits. New one's are being developed all the time. And so it is that growers have a much larger selection to pin point the exact hybrid to match their particular needs.

If a law doesn't do what it is intended, and it actually causes more harm than the substance the law in intended to ban, what use is the law?



We can't afford to house the people we have in jail now. Don't forget we have a slightly different system than your own. He'll be sent home with a ankle bracelet in less time than they hold him when he surrenders. I suppose they will tell him that he shouldn't sell pot seeds to Americans, but that slack was already scooped up when they raided his store front in B.C.

I suspect that this probably may keep him in the US a little longer or once some bureaucrat has to trim some budget somewhere, he'll be on a bus back to Canada. But hey it's your money right?

But what I really want to know is if it bothers you that some government agents are used to silence political views contrary to those in power at the time?

Instead of responding to each and every line... I really don't have a problem with people who smoke. What I am saying is that it is against the law and the guy broke the law. You may not like the law and have all kinds of info saying that it is wrong but the law needs to be changed then.

I think alcohol is far more dangerous and our highways and byways are a slaughter with drunk driving. Alcohol is far more destructive to peoples lives.
 

EagleSmack

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I can't speak for all Canadians but I say it because I have read it from US American strategists.

I am sure that not all US American strategist think so. I hear that quite often by posters here though.



I don't think so. Often those that can even find it on a map demonstrate a clear disregard for our sovereignty in how they talk. For example suggesting that a politician in Canada should be extradited to the US because he has broken a US law. Could you imagine such a thing happening in the US? Say Bush being extradited to the Hague for war crimes? It wouldn't happen yet Canadians are expected to swallow this swill.

Well the ones that can't find it on the map probably don't give two hoots about Canada then do they?

And if a US Politician was conducting illegal activity like selling weed or weed seeds to Canadians via the mail you can rest assure that he would be arrested and get a stiffer sentence here than in Canada. Many former politicians are in jail as well as crooked police.
 

EagleSmack

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Emery should be punished for sending seeds to the US, but he should stay in Canada.

That is pretty much his sentence. He has already plea bargained. He will do a little time in the US but a deal has been struck that the bulk of his 5 year sentence will be served in Canada.
 

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So, we need an example here. Let's say Joethebomber is mailing letter bombs to Sunnistan. Arrest him and and send him across the line I say. This is illegal in Canada too, no need for him to step into another country.

I agree

However, Emery has a legal business in Canada, he can send seeds anywhere in the world as long as a customer pays. The federal govt is accepting his taxes from the profits of his business. So one arm of the govt cannot make his business legal then another arm make it illegal. The extradition process here is being abused and Canada should not stand for it.

But it is illegal in the US so instead of sending bombs he is sending seeds. He knows it is illegal too. The smart thing to do was to sell where it was legal not to the US. He must have known they would come after him eventually.

Escobar has no legal business up and running. Bad example. I want him in ail forever.

Well Escobar was gunned down on a roof top by Columbian Police.

So, personally, I cannot see how any judge can send him to the US, extradition treaty or no. The problem is the colony of Canada, headed by the flunking flunky Harper.

Well they did and they had an opportunity to say no to extradition
 

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Yup, Georgy Dubbya started an illegal war based on lies and over a million people have died because of it, but he will never see the inside of a court room. Emery sells some seeds and he becomes a criminal of the highest order. Something is rotten in the US and it ain't Canadian.
 

EagleSmack

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Yup, Georgy Dubbya started an illegal war based on lies and over a million people have died because of it, but he will never see the inside of a court room. Emery sells some seeds and he becomes a criminal of the highest order. Something is rotten in the US and it ain't Canadian.

Ain't it GREAT!

I just LOVE when that stuff happens!
 

Unforgiven

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Ain't it GREAT!

I just LOVE when that stuff happens!

Seems you didn't like it as much when some people drove your planes into buildings. I think some people thought they would take the time out to have a laugh over it and hand out some candy.

I guess it's true, perspective is everything.
 

EagleSmack

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Seems you didn't like it as much when some people drove your planes into buildings. I think some people thought they would take the time out to have a laugh over it and hand out some candy.

I guess it's true, perspective is everything.

Nah...that was just for Cliffy.

Besides...we all know 9/11 was an inside job.
 

EagleSmack

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Yup, Georgy Dubbya started an illegal war based on lies and over a million people have died because of it, but he will never see the inside of a court room. Emery sells some seeds and he becomes a criminal of the highest order. Something is rotten in the US and it ain't Canadian.

Embellishing a little Clifford?
 

EagleSmack

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Not at all. You, on the other hand, are making light of a real crime while condemning a minor infraction. Sounds rather hypocritical to me.

Sure you are. That's what your type does.

Real crime... I don't think so...we're there aren't we?

Emery is going to jail...Bush is chilling on his ranch.


And you will be hard pressed to get my goat. I don't have one.

Suuuuuure you don't.
 

Socrates the Greek

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Sure you are. That's what your type does.

Real crime... I don't think so...we're there aren't we?

Emery is going to jail...Bush is chilling on his ranch.

Suuuuuure you don't.

Emery will serve time in a Canadian jail for a short time and Bush will have one more shoe thrown at him. Bush is a f war criminal...................
 

EagleSmack

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Emery will serve time in a Canadian jail for a short time and Bush will have one more shoe thrown at him. Bush is a f war criminal...................

Oh Emery is going to jail alright. A stint in a Canadian jail and a stint in a US jail.

One more? He'll be able to duck that pretty easily. If the shoe thrower is American he will DEFINITELY do a few days in jail minimum.
 

Socrates the Greek

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Oh Emery is going to jail alright. A stint in a Canadian jail and a stint in a US jail.

One more? He'll be able to duck that pretty easily. If the shoe thrower is American he will DEFINITELY do a few days in jail minimum.


Good day to you Eagle, this is not about doing time it is about some demented idiot that is unhappy that tax was not paid on the seeds.

The amount of money Emery made on the seeds with out the use of a gun makes organized crime look stupid. So few days in an American jail and then he will be in Canada. The American feds did not get their tax $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ and the joke is on them.

As for the shoe, Bush got humiliated when he visited Canada, did you see the shoe throwing competition? Oh, it was the most brilliant act in welcoming a liar thug war criminal.


Toronto protesters throw shoes at Bush photo
Canwest News Service

Published: Friday, May 29, 2009

Protestors plan to toss shoes at this poster of George W. Bush
Jackson Proskow/Global News

A protest outside a downtown Toronto building where former U.S. presidents Bill Clinton and George W. Bush spoke Friday was described by onlookers as more festive than angry.
The Metro Convention Centre on Front Street, where the two former American leaders discussed global and domestic challenges facing the United States and Canada Friday afternoon, was under tight security.
Police officers, some on them on horseback, were lined up across the fenced-off street from the convention centre.
Helicopters buzzed overhead as Bay Street types walked in to the convention centre. About 150 protesters were assembled, with signs
condemning Bush and saying "war criminals not welcome here."
Protesters also set up a table with free vegan food with clever names such as "Leek on parliamentary lawn soup" and "Condoleezza rice."
About 50 people gathered in front of a large canvas bearing a picture of Bush, throwing their shoes at it, and chanting "war criminal."

 

earth_as_one

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The charges are intent to distribute marijuana, intent to distribute seeds, and money laundering. He has already plea bargained and will do 5 years with most of that being served in a Canadian Prison...

Emery distributed marijauna seeds, nothing containing THC. In Canada, that's technically legal. The US makes no such distinction and your laws regarding marijauna are cruel and unusual in comparison to Canada.

Emery was in Canada, not the US and managing a legal Canadian business. Its up to Canada to decide whether they will extradite Emery. Given the US's extreme position regarding marijuana, I think Canada should only allow Emery to be extradicted if his charges are reduced to offences related to illegally using the US postal system and his sentence is served in Canada.