Exactly. You never know what last minute crap is going to happen, best thing is to pay attention and stay away from the road if a vehicle that size is making a tight turn as the back end of the trailer often wind up on the sidewalk. I've seen people do it, I've been in the vehicle when my ex-husband has done it - I would bet it happens quite regularly.
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Exactly. You never know what last minute crap is going to happen, best thing is to pay attention and stay away from the road if a vehicle that size is making a tight turn as the back end of the trailer often wind up on the sidewalk. I've seen people do it, I've been in the vehicle when my ex-husband has done it - I would bet it happens quite regularly.
I guess what makes it confusing is that by the same token pedestrians have also been known to use the street.
All kinds of them....
One of the problems with Onstar or other GPS guided logistics systems is they doesn't know the difference between a freeway and a bicycle path. Punch in the destination and go can put you in some very scary situations ... and Merv Orr's school of truckdriverology keeps pumping out new drivers all the time who don't know those roads upon which he/she is going to drive.
Dunno.... It was the name that came first into my head. I was grandfathered in. Learned at the Institute of Hard Knocks....
Having seen a lot of bad truck drivers come and go at the gate that I work at, I think some companies have such a bad reputation that they can only get the drivers that no other company would want. There have been a few near misses there, and they have always been the driver's fault. Some drivers just should not be drivers.
I am not saying this is the case with this particular driver, as I do not know his driving record to know if this was a one-time occurrence or not.
If this guy has a truly horrible CVOR & Drivers Abstract, he wouldn't
have been in that Truck driving, as no Carrier could afford to have him
in their fleet, affecting their insurance rates.
If he came into their fleet with a clean record (like right out'a some
truckers school), and ran up infractions, he'd be turfed ASAP so as
not to totally scr*w up their SAFER STAT ratings with any more
future infractions, making a Carriers entire fleet a target for Law
Enforcement & Transport Canada & the US DOT FMCSA...
Thanks for the info, Ron.:smile:
What if he was an Owner-Operator instead? How different would it be?
He'd have to be an O/O not running under any Carrier (meaning
completely independent with all of his own single state registrations
and running authorities, setting up his own IRP & Apportioned
Plates and Cargo&Liability insurance, etc... = VERY EXPENSIVE)
and with a horrible driving record, his own insurance rates would
chase him off the road in a very short time. IF he had a horrible
driving record, it would all have happened within the year before
his annual insurance came due...8O :lol::lol::lol:
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I work for a Commercial Carrier. All of the trucks in our
fleet are Owner Operated, meaning we don't own any of
the trucks. What we have done is we set up all of the
Single State Registrations, and all of the Running Authorities,
and arrange all of the Plates and insurance(s), and set up &
arrange all of the loads, arrange the Leased Operators fees
for Compensation, manage a fleet fuel card program, do the
IFTA (it's a money grab from every jurisdiction for fuel tax)
reporting for the entire fleet, all of the documentation for
crossing international borders, and many other things....for a
cut of the value of the freight charge.
As a Commercial Carrier, we are listed right on a Leased
Operators Registration Card (Cab Card) for his truck plates,
and if he/she does something truly ugly, we can also be fined,
and our fines are usually larger than the Leased Operators by
a factor of ten or more. Too many infractions by too many
drivers can bring on audits by several different Government
entities and those fines can easily be in the six figure range....
Someone with an ugly record doesn't get hired on, and
someone who develops and ugly record (or is on the way to...)
is cut loose very quickly. The Trucking industry is regulated much
more closely than anyone not already in it would believe.
fleet are Owner Operated, meaning we don't own any of
the trucks. What we have done is we set up all of the
Single State Registrations, and all of the Running Authorities,
and arrange all of the Plates and insurance(s), and set up &
arrange all of the loads, arrange the Leased Operators fees
for Compensation, manage a fleet fuel card program, do the
IFTA (it's a money grab from every jurisdiction for fuel tax)
reporting for the entire fleet, all of the documentation for
crossing international borders, and many other things....for a
cut of the value of the freight charge.
As a Commercial Carrier, we are listed right on a Leased
Operators Registration Card (Cab Card) for his truck plates,
and if he/she does something truly ugly, we can also be fined,
and our fines are usually larger than the Leased Operators by
a factor of ten or more. Too many infractions by too many
drivers can bring on audits by several different Government
entities and those fines can easily be in the six figure range....
Someone with an ugly record doesn't get hired on, and
someone who develops and ugly record (or is on the way to...)
is cut loose very quickly. The Trucking industry is regulated much
more closely than anyone not already in it would believe.
I don't think so, just city by laws, and there's exceptions there like if the truck driver lives on the street or is making a delivery.
JLM is right on track above, in that off the highways and
main thoroughfares, size & weight limits are usually set up
counties and municipalities. Those rules can vary wildly
from city to city, town to town, etc...
What has to be kept in mind though is that everything
everywhere had to get there somehow...and that
somehow is most likely via truck transport. With as few
details as we have in this instance, for all we know this
particular driver may have never even been in Toronto
until the day of that accident.
Just for laughs .....I googled Bank St & Heron Rd in Ottawa......turns out that that they are both multi lane streets and that intersection has special curving right hand turn lanes....go figure:?:
Bank St.and Heron Rd, ottawa - Google Maps
Bank St.and Heron Rd, ottawa - Google Maps
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Okay ... that's a nice easy turn lane ... and one tight right if he overshot. The guy's in trouble...
Cellphone distraction may have led to death of Toronto pedestrian: police
Here may be the prime suspect in the case. This is from Toronto.
Cellphone distraction may have led to death of Toronto pedestrian: police
A woman may have been distracted by talking on her cellphone when she walked into the side of a truck and was crushed to death under its wheels on Front Street in downtown Toronto on Wednesday night, police said.
According to investigators, a delivery truck was making a turn from Blue Jays Way onto Front Street just as the 28-year-old woman started across Front Street.
Here may be the prime suspect in the case. This is from Toronto.
Cellphone distraction may have led to death of Toronto pedestrian: police
A woman may have been distracted by talking on her cellphone when she walked into the side of a truck and was crushed to death under its wheels on Front Street in downtown Toronto on Wednesday night, police said.
According to investigators, a delivery truck was making a turn from Blue Jays Way onto Front Street just as the 28-year-old woman started across Front Street.
Makes you wonder how often this happens? drivers distracted. Pedestrians distracted. Yikes!