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talloola

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Sorry to speak off the topic, but I haven't been in here for a while, and it strikes me now that the forum has turned to religious topics in a real big way. Or is it just a feeling that I have? :smile:

Religion comes and goes on this forum, sometimes dissapears for awhile, but
raises it's head again in due course, certainly keeps people posting.
Politics is the one that never goes away.
 

SirJosephPorter

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What if god’s big test is to see how we will cope with other religions. If god does everything for a reason then maybe he also designed different beliefs for a reason…


Reminds me of a story told to me by a Hindu (Indian) friend. Hindu religion is well known for its tolerance of other religions. Hindu religion says that there are more than one paths to salvation, so presumably the path flowed by Christians, Muslims etc. may also be a valid one.

Anyway, once an argument broke out among men belonging to different religions, as to which God is the true God. Hindu said ‘Why don’t we pray, invoke the God and ask him about it?”

So they all started praying separately. Prayer of the Christian were answered, Allah appeared to him.

“So you are the true God?”

“Of course, otherwise why would I appear to you?”

“So all these years I have been worshipping the false God?”

“Not necessarily.”

Muslims’ prayers were answered, Vishnu appeared to him. Again similar conversation ensued, and Muslim went away convinced that Vishnu is the true God.

Christ appeared to Buddhist, Buddha appeared to the Jew and so on. Each and every man was visited by God of some other religion, and they all became convinced that all religions worship the same God.

Finally, God appeared to the Hindu.

“Why are you praying? What did you want?”

“Why, what just happened was what I wanted, of course.”
 

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In a time of economic meltdown, when our economies are going to hell in a hurry, people wonder whether there is any meaning in life, because the quest for the dollar isn't providing comfort anymore.
But the real hell is, people are beginning to realize that religions like economic systems are human creations.


..and that is where people tend to be dogmatic. They can't see the difference between spiritualism and religion
 

Francis2004

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What if god’s big test is to see how we will cope with other religions. If god does everything for a reason then maybe he also designed different beliefs for a reason…

I wondered " what if there was NOTHING " when we pass away?

Then I go home and asked God to keep all my family safe..

Are we not strange people ?
 

talloola

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What if we were on our own, on this big earth, without any god. Well I've got news for you all, WE ARE, and it is wonderful, I am free, I can be good without
having to, make my way, in my own way, don't have to answer to anyone but my
own, and cherish this earth, as we are the earth's children, we came from the
earth and we shall return to it, it comforts us, it cares for us, it is ours, we can
see it, feel it, feed off of it, study it, know it, travel on it, die on it, and return
to it, that is reality, not imagination.
 
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shadowshiv

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I'm sorry for the question. I thought this was a christian forum. I put it here because I was thinking about how when bad things happen some people say 'It's God's will. It's all a test. People get killed in the name of religion. It's ok to hate hate people that hold another religion and maybe even invade their country and kill them and I can't believe that any god would justify that. No christian or any follower of a belief should ever kill anyone or support anyone that kills people.
So I was thinking... If god is almighty and does everything for a reason then he also 'invented' different religions fo a reason. Because he wanted people to be intolerant and hateful towards each other??? It was a pretty stupid question. I just wanted to see what religous people would answer and maybe get them thinking about how they might not be thinking

You have no reason to apologize. It was a legitimate question in the proper forum. Your question was not stupid either. Anything that can stimulate conversation, whether for good or for ill, can have merit.

Welcome to CC, by the way. I hope you enjoy your time here.:smile:
 

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Today's god is Mercury (In French Wednesday is mercredi Mercury's Day)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/db/Mercurybyhendrickgoltzius.jpeg

From Wikipedia
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"When they described the gods of Celtic and Germanic tribes, rather than considering them separate deities, the Romans interpreted them as local manifestations or aspects of their own gods, a cultural trait called the interpretation Romana. Mercury in particular was reported as becoming extremely popular among the nations the Roman Empire conquered; Julius Caesar wrote of Mercury being the most popular god in Britain and Gaul, regarded as the inventor of all the arts. This is probably because in the Roman syncretism, Mercury was equated with the Celtic god Lugus, and in this aspect was commonly accompanied by the Celtic goddess Rosmerta. Although Lugus may originally have been a deity of light or the sun (though this is disputed), similar to the Roman Apollo, his importance as a god of trade and commerce made him more comparable to Mercury, and Apollo was instead equated with the Celtic deity Belenus.[2]
Mercury was also strongly associated with the Germanic god Wotan; 1st-century Roman writer Tacitus identifies the two as being the same, and describes him as the chief god of the Germanic peoples. Julius Caesar, in a section of his "Gallic Wars" describing the customs of the German tribes, wrote "The Germans most worship Mercury," apparently identifiyng Wotan with Mercury."

From Woden or Wotan we get "Wednesday."
 

Cliffy

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Spade,

Interesting that there are no christian characters in the names of the days.

What are the origins of the names of the months?
 

SirJosephPorter

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Spade,

Interesting that there are no christian characters in the names of the days.

What are the origins of the names of the months?

Cliffy, as to the months, have you ever wondered where the names September (7th month), October (8th month), November (9th month) and December (10th month) originally came from?

September to December originally were not months 9 to 12, but 7 to 10 (as their name implies). September was originally the seventh month on the Roman calendar which began in March instead of January.

Christians have borrowed a lot of stuff from Romans (including Christmas), why not the calendar?
 

Cliffy

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Cliffy, as to the months, have you ever wondered where the names September (7th month), October (8th month), November (9th month) and December (10th month) originally came from?

September to December originally were not months 9 to 12, but 7 to 10 (as their name implies). September was originally the seventh month on the Roman calendar which began in March instead of January.

Christians have borrowed a lot of stuff from Romans (including Christmas), why not the calendar?

Well colour me red. It is so obvious that I missed it. makes sense once I see it in print. And I'm originally from Queybec, Estee!
 

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Cliffy, as to the months, have you ever wondered where the names September (7th month), October (8th month), November (9th month) and December (10th month) originally came from?

September to December originally were not months 9 to 12, but 7 to 10 (as their name implies). September was originally the seventh month on the Roman calendar which began in March instead of January.

Christians have borrowed a lot of stuff from Romans (including Christmas), why not the calendar?
hehe I think it's really odd that we don't have 13 months, too.Found out that Christians don't like the number 13 nor where the idea of 13 months came from. 13 goes into 365.24 better than 12 does.
 

Spade

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But 12 moons of 30 days = 360 days + 5 days at year end.
360 = 6 X 60
60 = base of the Babylonian sexigesimal system.
Why 60?
Because 60 has factors of 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 12, 15, 20, 30, and 60. Simplified fractions and calculation.
 

Spade

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What I find even more interesting is why there are 7 days and why they are "named" in the order they are. The origin is not Biblical. The Hebrews adopted it from the Egyptians.
 

SirJosephPorter

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hehe I think it's really odd that we don't have 13 months, too.Found out that Christians don't like the number 13 nor where the idea of 13 months came from. 13 goes into 365.24 better than 12 does.

Till Elections Do Us Part

Gilbert, I think Indian (Hindu) calendar has 13 months. Each month is 29 or 30 days long. Every three or four years, they come up a month short. So every three or four years they have an extra month.
 

SirJosephPorter

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But 12 moons of 30 days = 360 days + 5 days at year end.
360 = 6 X 60
60 = base of the Babylonian sexigesimal system.
Why 60?
Because 60 has factors of 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 12, 15, 20, 30, and 60. Simplified fractions and calculation.

Spade, we still use the sexigesimal system (60 seconds = 1 minute, 60 minutes = 1 hour).
 

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Spade,

Interesting that there are no christian characters in the names of the days.

What are the origins of the names of the months?
January is Janus, February is februum, March is Mars, April I just don't know, May from the greek Maia, June is for Juno (Canada's goddess). July for Julius Ceasar, August for Augustus Ceasar and the rest Sir took care of.
 

bobnoorduyn

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What if we were on our own, on this big earth, without any god. Well I've got news for you all, WE ARE, and it is wonderful, I am free, I can be good without
having to, make my way, in my own way, don't have to answer to anyone but my
own,

Sorry, but I've got news for you, you/we are anything but free. Fail to file a tax return and just wait to see who you have to answer to. You can't even ride a friggin' bicycle on your own property out here without a helmet before some guy with a hat and gun want's to slap you with a $112 ticket, free me' arse :angryfire:
 

bobnoorduyn

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Spade, we still use the sexigesimal system (60 seconds = 1 minute, 60 minutes = 1 hour).

And it works well with navigating and such, all figures are divsible by 6. The oddball is that the sun travels 15 degrees per hour, but In 24 hours the sun has travelled 360 degrees. One second of latitude is one nautical mile, or 6000' (close enough). 60 hz is also the best frequency, oddly much of Europe went to 50hz to be more compatible with metric but its hard on electric motors and lights flicker.
 

Spade

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Sorry, but I've got news for you, you/we are anything but free. Fail to file a tax return and just wait to see who you have to answer to. You can't even ride a friggin' bicycle on your own property out here without a helmet before some guy with a hat and gun want's to slap you with a $112 ticket, free me' arse :angryfire:

It's all the surveilance cameras as well, on the job and out. . Monitored emails and 'phone calls. Photo radar, red-light radar, green-light radar, and so on, and so forth. Free? It's just a word...