If you were the Governor General, what would you do?

Socrates the Greek

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If I were governor general I would sit down and take a LONG, HARD look at the difference between the political theory of this country, and the political practice.

Sorry, Karrie, but there is no difference between theory and practice. Indeed, there cannot be any difference. If the constitution says something, practice cannot do something otherwise.

In theory, we do not vote to elect a leader, in theory we vote to elect MP's. We vote to elect a person to fill a chair and give a voice for our region in Parliament. THEORY.

OK so far.

In practice, parties choose and campaign a leader, and encourage votes to help get that leader into government. In practice we elect a leader via our choice of MP

OK so far.

In practice, Canada's voice was heard through its choice of Stephen Harper and the Conservative Party of Canada.

Now here you are wrong. Canadians did NOT choose Harper as the Prime Minister. Even leaving aside the fact that Canadians did not vote for any Prime minister, Conservatives did not get a majority, so Canadians did not vote for Harper as you seem to imply.

Now, due to this break between theory and practice, Dion and his ilk, have chosen to sneak in through a back door loop hole and attempt to take what they feel the Canadian people owed them... power.

There has been no break between theory and practice. Non conservatives have a majority of seats, a majority of votes. So it is quite proper, both theoretically and practically, that they form the government.

Dion is about to cost this country dearly, in a time when we can't afford it. Dion does NOT have Canada's best interests in mind.

That is your personal opinion. Many Canadians, including myself think differently.

If I were GG, I'd be calling an election, so that people like me, who've never voted Conservative before, can express our displeasure at his tactics by voting in a majority and putting an end to Dion and Layton's nonsense.

I don’t know how old you are Karrie, but I am older than Methuselah. I remember Mulroney got his second majority and people became disillusioned with him very soon after that.

I still remember one New Brunswick voter say on television “I voted Conservative, and I want my vote back.”

Sorry, it doesn’t work out that way. Voters are fickle, they change their minds frequently. If we started having general election because some voters feel differently about a party, We will be having election every couple of weeks. That is not democracy, that is anarchy.

If you vote Liberal or NDP and now regret your vote and now want to vote Conservative, you will have to wait until next election. We cannot have a general election, spend 300 million $, just so people like you have changed their mind. Besides, the most likely outcome of another election is another minority. That won’t solve anything, except to give you the satisfaction that you voted right (Conservative) this time.

Besides, suppose we have another election, you vote conservative, then two weeks later you get disillusioned with Conservatives. They should we hold another election?

SirJosephPorter, YOUR POST IS ON THE DOE, WORTH OF RE-POSTING.
Harper's DUPLICITY will hurt Canada big time....
 

Risus

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Actually ... no she wouldn't. The job of Governor General is a non-partisan one.

It might all be moot anyway. We need the non confidence vote in the House first, and it seems a number of the liberals won't be showing up to vote, after listening to common sense from Bay Street that the coalition will do nothing good for the economy.
 

Mongul

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As to be presented a plan by the coalition on what to do, then compare it with the conservative plan, then decide
 

Socrates the Greek

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It might all be moot anyway. We need the non confidence vote in the House first, and it seems a number of the liberals won't be showing up to vote, after listening to common sense from Bay Street that the coalition will do nothing good for the economy.

Risus do you spin much?
 

JLM

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"Nice comment considering you and everybody else living today doesn't have a clue on whether or not it would work."

- Maybe in our minds we do- you have to keep a sense of humour about these things- after all it's a circus we're dealing with.
 

Socrates the Greek

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It might all be moot anyway. We need the non confidence vote in the House first, and it seems a number of the liberals won't be showing up to vote, after listening to common sense from Bay Street that the coalition will do nothing good for the economy.


Harper's DUPLICITY will hurt Canada big time.... :p
 

Praxius

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- Maybe in our minds we do- you have to keep a sense of humour about these things- after all it's a circus we're dealing with.

This Circus has run its course for being funny and I don't have much laughter left to give for this government under Harper.

Plenty of people on both sides of the argument are pretty fed up with it all, and when some type of solution is brought into light that could finally see our government doing it's job and no longer wasting tax payer's money on bickering and fighting back and forth..... simply saying it won't work isn't funny considering the only other option is going back to the exact same crap we're all complaining about in the first place.

Yes, that is correct..... I am a party pooper.
 

Socrates the Greek

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I would rather see the Liberal Party and NDP merge into one governing party and get rid of Dion. Then they can lead the country with a majority of MP's.

Good day B00Mer, amazing turn around of opinion, bravo,
A while ego you posted mean things about Liberal politicians south of the border, and made your case clear that you hate Liberals in particular......
I accept your post above with great caution, unless you provide a good reason why your sadden change of opinion towards the Liberals.
After all we are all friends here…………..
 

Praxius

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Well although I think DIon is a total dolt.... I have no issue with him running things until a new Liberal Leader is selected, and there will be one..... if not, then Layton steps in as the Deputy PM.

Now there's something to think about..... Prime Minister Layton. :twisted:

*Hears the Conservative Fearmongers rushing to get their swastika arm patches*
 

JLM

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He did not win a majority, pure and simple.

And he refused to form a coalition to govern, as is required. He does not have support of Parliment.

If we get real technical though, he has no right to the office of prime minister, nor does the office exist in our constitution.

Technically the queen (through the GG) could walk up to to Jane Doe on the street and make her PM.

It is a terrible system.

There is no rule that says the PM is the leader of the party with the most seats. None, its just tradition.

We have had Prime Ministers who are not members of Parliment before.

Technically the Prime Minister can be prime minister for ever.

And Constitutionally, I do not believe the prime minister has any actual power nor does the office have to exist (The same as the cabinet).

There is also (btw) no need to call an election after a vote of non-confidence.

Not that it matters, because the MP's don't have to really obey any special rules of the "prime minister" which is in actuallity, a make believe post.

But thats all theoretical, in the day to day workings, people obey the PM as if he special powers, so he does.
Kreskin has it right- what would you do? Give it to the party with the fewest seats?
 

JLM

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Well although I think DIon is a total dolt.... I have no issue with him running things until a new Liberal Leader is selected, and there will be one..... if not, then Layton steps in as the Deputy PM.

Now there's something to think about..... Prime Minister Layton. :twisted:

*Hears the Conservative Fearmongers rushing to get their swastika arm patches*

Do you think Dion will step down once he makes Prime Minister? Before Layton gets to be prime minister he could use a little practice running a dog kennel first.
 

Colpy

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I thought the GG could not refuse a request by the PM to suspend Parliament.....bt I have since heard differing opinions on that idea. I think suspension is silly anyway, it simply prolongs instability. Given a free constitutional hand, I think I would refuse to suspend Parliament..........putting the ball in Harper's hands. If he then asked for dissolution......granted, and a new election. If he did not ask for dissolution........wait for the lack of confidence vote.....then you would have to ask Dion to form a gov't.

Harper should ask for dissolution and a new election.
 

Scott Free

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I would crown myself emperor in a pleasant ceremony and have any opposition summarily executed.

I would appoint friends and family to powerful positions and aim nukes at the USA.

But that's just me...