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earth_as_one

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Probably has something to do with that website being discredited as an Islamaphobic neoconservative Islamic hate site.

I'd accept a reference to interpol or the UN.
 

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There is a better list on the religion of peace dot com....but you wouldn't beleive it.


It's one sided, the same as the loon site. but, we've already crossed that bridge in this thread. Maybe have bear catch ya up.
 

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Here is what the UN says:

Resolution: The United Nations Global Counter-Terrorism Strategy

The General Assembly,
Guided by the purposes and principles of the Charter of the United Nations and reaffirming its role under the Charter, including on questions related to international peace and security,
Reiterating its strong condemnation of terrorism in all its forms and manifestations, committed by whomever, wherever and for whatever purposes, as it constitutes one of the most serious threats to international peace and security,
Reaffirming the Declaration on Measures to Eliminate International Terrorism, contained in the annex to General Assembly resolution 49/60 of 9 December 1994, the Declaration to Supplement the 1994 Declaration on Measures to Eliminate International Terrorism, contained in the annex to General Assembly resolution 51/210 of 17 December 1996, and the 2005 World Summit Outcome, in particular its section on terrorism,
Recalling all General Assembley resolutions on measures to eliminate international terrorism, including resolution 46/51 of 9 December 1991, and Security Council resolutions on threats to international peace and security caused by terrorist acts, as well as relevant resolutions of the General Assembly on the protection of human rights and fundamental freedoms while countering terrorism,
Recalling also that at the 2005 World Summit Outcome world leaders rededicated themselves to support all efforts to uphold the sovereign equality of all States, respect their territorial integrity and political independence, to refrain in our international relations from the threat or use of force in any manner inconsistent with the purposes and principles of the United Nations, to uphold resolution of disputes by peaceful means and in conformity with the principles of justice and international law, the right to self-determination of peoples which remain under colonial domination or foreign occupation, non-interference in the internal affairs of States, respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms, respect for the equal rights of all without distinction as to race, sex, language or religion, international cooperation in solving international problems of an economic, social, cultural or humanitarian character and the fulfillment in good faith of the obligations assumed in accordance with the Charter,
Recalling further the mandate contained in the 2005 World Summit Outcome that the General Assembly should develop without delay the elements identified by the Secretary-General for a counter-terrorism strategy, with a view to adopting and implementing a strategy to promote comprehensive, coordinated and consistent responses, at the national, regional and international levels, to counter terrorism, which also takes into account the conditions conducive to the spread of terrorism,
Reaffirming that acts, methods and practices of terrorism in all its forms and manifestations are activities aimed at the destruction of human rights, fundamental freedoms and democracy, threatening territorial integrity, security of States and destabilizing legitimately constituted Governments, and that the international community should take the necessary steps to enhance cooperation to prevent and combat terrorism,
Reaffirming also that terrorism cannot and should not be associated with any religion, nationality, civilization or ethnic group,
Reaffirming further Member States' determination to make every effort to reach an agreement on and conclude a comprehensive convention on international terrorism, including by resolving the outstanding issues related to the legal definition and scope of the acts covered by the convention, so that it can serve as an effective instrument to counter terrorism,
Continuing to acknowledge that the question of convening a high level conference under the auspices of the United Nations to formulate an international response to terrorism in all its forms and manifestations could be considered,
Recognizing that development, peace and security, and human rights are interlinked and mutually reinforcing,
Bearing in mind the need to address the conditions conducive to the spread of terrorism,
Affirming Member States' determination to continue to do all they can to resolve conflict, end foreign occupation, confront oppression, eradicate poverty, promote sustained economic growth, sustainable development, global prosperity, good governance, human rights for all and rule of law, improve intercultural understanding and ensure respect for all religions, religious values, beliefs or cultures,

  1. Expresses its appreciation for the report "Uniting against terrorism: recommendations for a global counter-terrorism strategy" (doc. A/60/825), submitted by the Secretary-General to the General Assembly;
  2. Adopts the present resolution and its annex as theUnited Nations Global Counter-Terrorism Strategy ("the Strategy");
  3. Decides, without prejudice to the continuation of the discussion at its relevant committees of all their agenda items related to terrorism and counter-terrorism, to undertake the following steps for the effective follow-up of the Strategy:
    1. To launch the Strategy at a high-level segment of its sixty-first session; To examine in two years progress made in implementation of the Strategy, and to consider updating it to respond to changes, recognizing that many of the measures contained in the Strategy can be achieved immediately, some will require sustained work through the coming few years, and some should be treated as long term objectives;
    2. To invite the Secretary-General to contribute to the future deliberations of the General Assembly on the review of the implementation and updating of the Strategy;
    3. To encourage Member States, the United Nations and other appropriate international, regional and sub-regional organizations to support the implementation of the Strategy, including through mobilizing resources and expertise;
    4. To further encourage non-governmental organizations and civil society to engage, as appropriate, on how to enhance efforts to implement the Strategy.
  4. Decides to inscribe in the provisional agenda of its sixty-second session an item entitled "TheUnited Nations Global Counter-Terrorism Strategy".

It's one sided, the same as the loon site. but, we've already crossed that bridge in this thread. Maybe have bear catch ya up.

The loonwatch website monitors neoconservative Islamaphobic websites like theReligionOfPeace.com and JihadWatch. I referenced them, because they already did the research which proves that these neoconservative Islamaphobic websites embraced by Colpy and daSleeper are pure trash. Unlike the Islamaphobic websites which pull numbers out of thin air, loonwatch posts the links to their sources. Loonwatch's conclusions are based reports by the FBI and Europol. Are you claiming these loonwatch sources are one sided?

Why would the FBI and Europol try to minimize or make fraudulent claims regarding the number of Muslim extremist terrorist attacks in their reports?

I think you have been affected by pro-Israel propaganda which associates legitimate criticism of Israel with antisemitism. You've read enough of these threads to know that is the first slander used by Israeli apologists to stifle legitimate criticism of Israel.

I have nothing against ordinary Israelis or Jews. I oppose Israeli policies which oppress and discriminate against non-Jews for the same reason I opposed Apartheid South Africa policies which oppressed and discriminated against non-Whites. I am no more anti-Semitic than I am anti-White. (BTW, my ancestry is mostly Western European and some of my ancestors were probably Jewish). I am against all war crimes including those committed by some members of the Israeli Defense Forces. I am against crimes against humanity including those which limit Palestinian access to humanitarian food and medical aid.

I don't support holding Israelis to higher standards than other nations. I support holding them to the same standards as other nations that our government routinely condemns for human rights abuses, war crimes and crimes against humanity. I don't think Israel should get a free pass to commit atrocities free of criticism and I refuse to be intimidated by slander and anti-Semitic slurs.

Like I said, if you believe I am anti-Semitic, give me an example of a post made by me (not by someone else about me) which you believe supports your opinion that I am anti-Jewish or even anti-Israeli.
 
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You guys have slipped.....straight into lunacy.

HOW MANY DEAD IN THE USA, SPAIN, GREAT BRITAIN FROM "JEWISH" TERRORISM?????????
 

earth_as_one

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I'd answer that but then gerryH will condemn my answer "Get off the fu ckin "jewish" crap. Why pick a 7 percentile? Why not pick the group that the FBI say's is the largest perpetrator? You really do enjoy shooting yourself in the foot, don't you."

So how exactly do I respond to Colpy's challenge without singling out Jews???? :(
 

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So, the FBI's list is bullshyte?


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The FBI does not consider the Fort Hood shooter to be a terrorist, nor that attack as a terrorist attack.

13 dead, 29 wounded by a radical Muslim in contact with Anwar al-Awlaki.

He was screaming "Allah Akbar" the entire time.

Yep, the FBI's list is BS.

Now, as I keep asking, find me a Jewish terrorist attack....you know, sometime within the last 20 years would be nice, and I don't consider it an attack if nobody was injured....

Kahane was nuts, as was Goldberg, and yes there were Jewish terror groups in Israel.....

Ancient history, all of it, and at their peak they couldn't hold a candle to today's Islamist loonies
 

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you and colpy are 2 peas in a pod. Both stuck on the jew/muslim band wagon
 

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IRL I don't have arguments with mental morons that feel the only answer to disagreement is violence.

Missing the point again - I stated at times that is the only course of available. That is why I asked Soldiers in Darfur - To protect at times they have to kill save civilians. You are against that.

I think you come on this forum and insult, denigrate and on and on. But do not act that way in day to day life - and in life we all encounter asses. But if you carried on that way in day to day life, in the way you do on this forum someone would hand you your head on a platter.
 

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Missing the point again - I stated at times that is the only course of available. That is why I asked Soldiers in Darfur - To protect at times they have to kill save civilians. You are against that.

I think you come on this forum and insult, denigrate and on and on. But do not act that way in day to day life - and in life we all encounter asses. But if you carried on that way in day to day life, in the way you do on this forum someone would hand you your head on a platter.



Whatever, believe what you will, I really don't give a rats ass.
 

Goober

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I don't support holding Israelis to higher standards than other nations. I support holding them to the same standards as other nations that our government routinely condemns for human rights abuses, war crimes and crimes against humanity. I don't think Israel should get a free pass to commit atrocities free of criticism and I refuse to be intimidated by slander and anti-Semitic slurs.

Like I said, if you believe I am anti-Semitic, give me an example of a post made by me (not by someone else about me) which you believe supports your opinion that I am anti-Jewish or even anti-Israeli.

So you are OK with Israel treating Palestinians as Hamas would treat Jews.

Whatever, believe what you will, I really don't give a rats ass.

Luv Ya Ger, Really.
 

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This is not about fear its about waking us up with the reality alarm clock. Yes we
are at War with the fundamentalist Muslim World. Moderate Muslims are not
speaking out even though they are as appalled as we are. By remaining silent
they degrade their own religion and their credibility. There are many in that over
all community who do speak out and this is a good thing, however far too many
are silent and allow their faith to be hijacked by killers and despots of all
description. To suggest we are not at war with the Islamic Faith, not the Islamic
World is nonsense of the highest order.
I have friends who are Muslims and even some of them are silent because of
a sense of shame I think. They know these murdering gangsters and that is what
they are, are destroying their place in the world and yet they do nothing. The
biggest problem is, there is not central figure or religious leader or symbol that
can unify them or seize the moment to change the destructive direction of the
would be killers of our children. This is no longer a conflict between the Jewish
community and the Muslims it is a fight against fascism every bit as dangerous
as the movement Adolf Hitler started decades ago. The only difference is the
fundamentalist Muslims are religious fascists and with faith as an ideology it
has the makings of fear in the minds of some. As for me I believe we must make
it about our resolve to do something to bring an end to this sooner rather than
later. Until we understand what we are up against we will drift along, unaware of
the resolve of our enemy. When we wake up it will be a different story, at that
point we will rise to the occasion like the other times. The problem is if we took
care of it now it would be less painful.
 

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and on the other side of the pond, those that speak out against the horrors that the western powers perpetrate, are ridiculed and austrasized.
 

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and on the other side of the pond, those that speak out against the horrors that the western powers perpetrate, are ridiculed and austrasized.

And those in countries like Syria are murdered in the streets by their own Govt.

But then again, your standards are varied and dependent upon what is right in your limited and clearly biased opinion.

Luv Ya G. Can;t stand ya, but I luv ya. Trying to be a good Christan ya know.
 

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A Bigot is someone who is hostile to those of differing sex, race, ethnicity, religion or spirituality, nationality, language, inter-regional prejudice, gender and sexual orientation, homelessness, various medical disorders particularly behavioral disorders and addictive disorders..

So where do the maniacs who target civilians including children fall? Under medical disorders, behavioral disorders. Because if one is bigoted for singling out these knuckle draggers then I am a confirmed bigot.

And how do you know that Colpy has never met a muslim?
 

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I guess we both feel strongly about this conflict. I disagree with Colpy and the official position the Canadian government. In every other conflict, Canada consistently supports human rights. This conflict is the sole exception where Canada officially support oppression and injustice. Hot buttons for me are Human Rights and Canada's image.

back on topic.... These websites promote irrational Islamaphobic hate and fear:

Islam: Making a True Difference in the World - One Body at a Time

Jihad Watch

Atlas Shrugs

Little Green Footballs

If you have the same opinions as these people, then you are seriously warped
 
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Goober

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I have noted your biased conclusions time and again. For one who claims to live and breathe Human Rights and a chicken in every pot - Could you explain your comment on dropping captured Taliban in Canada's Far North - Provided with a few utensils - and tell them to get on with it.

Can ya splain that one for us (labelled by yourself) so called Right Wing nutbars, like myself as you have described me, as a person who despises the Muslim faith, splain that to me as i can be kinda slow ya know.
 

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I guess we both feel strongly about this conflict. I disagree with Colpy and the official position the Canadian government. In every other conflict, Canada consistently supports human rights. This conflict is the sole exception where Canada officially support oppression and injustice. Hot buttons for me are Human Rights and Canada's image.

back on topic.... These websites promote irrational Islamaphobic hate and fear:

Islam: Making a True Difference in the World - One Body at a Time

Jihad Watch

Atlas Shrugs

Little Green Footballs

If you have the same opinions as these people, then you are seriously warped


If you answer my post and then I answer your post, don't you think it makes good sense to answer my post. Or am I on ignore again?
 

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back on topic.... These websites promote irrational Islamaphobic hate and fear:

Islam: Making a True Difference in the World - One Body at a Time

Jihad Watch

Atlas Shrugs

Little Green Footballs

If you have the same opinions as these people, then you are seriously warped

Actually, I was not familiar with the last two......

And Little Green Footballs seems to be a slightly left-of-centre site, I saw no mention of Islam whatsoever.......

As for the other three, your silly condemnation of them as sites that " promote irrational Islamaphobic hate and fear" means absolutely SFA.

If you wish to be taken seriously, you'll have to do better than that.

Show them to be liars, refute their claims of Islamist misdeeds, discredit them........as I would a Holocaust denier's site or a pro-gun control site.

Otherwise you're wasting my time.

BTW, According to Ayaan Hirsi Ali, there is no such thing as Islamophobia.

She should know.

And, refering to an earlier post of yours, do you REALLY think anyone with a brain gives a rat's ass what the UN thinks??????