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AnnaG

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Geee, if I kill someone its ok because other people have done it.
Trudeau screwed up so it's ok for all the others to screw up, right? Others screwed up before Trudeau so it was ok if he screwed up, right?:roll:
 

damngrumpy

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I never was a Liberal but I liked Trudeau, I thought he was among the best leaders
Canada ever had. He stood up to Quebec's FLQ and he was not afraid to use the
war measures act to back up was he said. Socially he moved this country light years ahead of many other nations in terms of human progress. No I didn't like
everything he did, but he sure beat lyin' Brian and some of the others who went
before
 

JLM

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We also have Trudeau to thank for this stupid f(*^)&^g metric system we are on that cost us $billions to install, and ironically we are still buying 4' X 8' sheets of plywood and 2" X 4"s and football fields are still 110 yards long. Idiot!.
 

wulfie68

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Nonsense! Trudeau's debt could have been paid of in 3 or 4 years. Mulroney added $450 billion to the debt. Kim Cambell handed Chretien $46 billion dollars worth of debt. Thanks to Bulroney just the interest on our debt is something around fifty billion. Lyin' Brian was just doing in Canada what hid buddy Reagan was doing in the U.S.. Our great grandchildren's children will be paying off that stupid debt

Its not nonsense. I was an original Reform supporter out West primarily because I was pissed at the way Mulroney didn't attack the deficit and debt head on. I hated the GST with every fibre of my non-sales taxed Albertan body. I thought Mulroney wasted too much time sucking up to Quebec with Charlottetown and Meech Lake but you look at the numbers, Mulroney's impact on the deficit is exagerated by people who ignore the economy he stimulated with the free trade deals and just the currency differential due to inflation. And no, I don't think all that highly of Lyin' Brian either.

So far all I have seen for Trudeau's defense is the same old paraphasing of his cult of personality and a reluctance to admit it, even when his failures are pointed out.
 

Cannuck

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The metric system was one of the better things Trudeau did. Only the old farts have a problem with it and they'll all be dead soon.
 

JLM

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The metric system was one of the better things Trudeau did. Only the old farts have a problem with it and they'll all be dead soon.

What's better about it? It's just another system. The Imperial System worked really well & is actually still working. Yesterday I went out to the gravel pit and asked the attendant to put 1/2 yard of gravel on my 3/4 ton pickup and there wasn't a problem. How would .43478 cu. metres have been better?
 

Avro

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What's better about it? It's just another system. The Imperial System worked really well & is actually still working. Yesterday I went out to the gravel pit and asked the attendant to put 1/2 yard of gravel on my 3/4 ton pickup and there wasn't a problem. How would .43478 cu. metres have been better?

This is what's better about it.

As Canuck says, once the old farts are gone no one will care.
 

Cannuck

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What's better about it? It's just another system. The Imperial System worked really well & is actually still working. Yesterday I went out to the gravel pit and asked the attendant to put 1/2 yard of gravel on my 3/4 ton pickup and there wasn't a problem. How would .43478 cu. metres have been better?

Then why do you seniors whine about it. In my job and in most jobs, the metric system is better. Get over it.
 

JLM

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Then why do you seniors whine about it. In my job and in most jobs, the metric system is better. Get over it.

Most jobs? If you are a pharmacist, I'd concede the point. If you are shovelling sh*t what difference would it make?
 

wulfie68

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As far as measurement systems go, Metric vs US/Imperial I think its just a matter of what you're used to. I was in the third grade when the switch was made and thus learned metric, as mandated by the school curriculums, while learning the imperial measurements on the side. I do tend to think of myself in terms of feet, inches and pounds but things like distance and speed is in km or kph to me. My career has been in the oil & gas sector and its a hybrid of measurements: reports for regulatory bodies are all in metric, where as if the company you are working for is US based, they think of things converted. Pressures, volumes, temperatures end up converting back and forth.

Personally I think the metric system IS better in many ways: everything is a multiple of 10 so its a matter of just moving the decimal point vs a bunch of seemingly arbitrary numbers.

examples

1000 mL = 1 litre, 1000L = 1 cubic metre vs pints and quarts per gallon (and US and Imperial gallons are different sizes) and gallons per barrel
1000 g per kilogram vs 16 oz per pound
100 cm per metre vs 12 inches per foot and 3 feet per yard
0 degrees C = 32 F = waters freezing point, 100 degrees C = 212 F = water's boiling point

Metric is much simpler for working calculations. For things like buying groceries, its just a function of what you're used to visualizing.
 

JLM

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I agree with most of that Wulfie. But a $4 calculator negates most of the problems associated with not being a multiple of ten. Ironically one metre when it was established was 1/10 miilionth of the distance from the equator to the pole, but we've since found out it's not. When temperature were being established, Iceland was considered to be the coldest place in the world hence zero was set at what was considered to be the coldes temp. there. The whole foundation was founded on a lot of false premises. But that's just an aside. I would go along with metric being the better system where it was originally in use, but I sure don't agree with the $billions of dollars of expense to change what was previously working. By the same token if France was to switch over to Imperial, that would be equally stupid.
 

AnnaG

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We also have Trudeau to thank for this stupid f(*^)&^g metric system we are on that cost us $billions to install, and ironically we are still buying 4' X 8' sheets of plywood and 2" X 4"s and football fields are still 110 yards long. Idiot!.
lol Good point. Why? "Oh the US is going metric". lmao I like it better, though. Instead of measuring a half millimeter, it's much more fun to say 0.01969 inches right?

And labels on my mother in law's medical supplements, lotions, etc. are illegible because the English is so small because ⅔ of the label is taken up with French that ⅔ of the people in the country don't use. Add a big squabble in Kubbec over languages on signs.
 
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AnnaG

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The metric system was one of the better things Trudeau did. Only the old farts have a problem with it and they'll all be dead soon.
I agree, but it is funny that people went about it the way they did.
 

JLM

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As far as measurement systems go, Metric vs US/Imperial I think its just a matter of what you're used to. I was in the third grade when the switch was made and thus learned metric, as mandated by the school curriculums, while learning the imperial measurements on the side. I do tend to think of myself in terms of feet, inches and pounds but things like distance and speed is in km or kph to me. My career has been in the oil & gas sector and its a hybrid of measurements: reports for regulatory bodies are all in metric, where as if the company you are working for is US based, they think of things converted. Pressures, volumes, temperatures end up converting back and forth.

Personally I think the metric system IS better in many ways: everything is a multiple of 10 so its a matter of just moving the decimal point vs a bunch of seemingly arbitrary numbers.

examples

1000 mL = 1 litre, 1000L = 1 cubic metre vs pints and quarts per gallon (and US and Imperial gallons are different sizes) and gallons per barrel
1000 g per kilogram vs 16 oz per pound
100 cm per metre vs 12 inches per foot and 3 feet per yard
0 degrees C = 32 F = waters freezing point, 100 degrees C = 212 F = water's boiling point

Metric is much simpler for working calculations. For things like buying groceries, its just a function of what you're used to visualizing.

Doesn't matter we knew 2 pints one quart, 4 quarts one gallon, two gallons, one peck, 4 pecks one bushel , 12 inches one foot, 161/2 feet one rod, 320 rods one mile and so on. In those days we were smart enough that it wasn't a problem.
 

TenPenny

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Doesn't matter we knew 2 pints one quart, 4 quarts one gallon, two gallons, one peck, 4 pecks one bushel , 12 inches one foot, 161/2 feet one rod, 320 rods one mile and so on. In those days we were smart enough that it wasn't a problem.

But don't forget there are different gallons.
There are also different miles.
 

JLM

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But don't forget there are different gallons.
There are also different miles.

Yep, there's the nautical mile and the U.S. gallon, 4/5 of our gallon, but we lived with that with no problem. A quart in U.S. is 32 oz. in Canada 40 oz.
 

wulfie68

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Yep, there's the nautical mile and the U.S. gallon, 4/5 of our gallon, but we lived with that with no problem. A quart in U.S. is 32 oz. in Canada 40 oz.

Yes and this just goes to prove the metric system IS easier to deal with: no worrying about different miles or gallons or anything else. This cuts down on math errors in things like engineering calculations because you're dealing with less variation in the constants.

The argument against metric is like someone saying we should be using old coal fired locomotives for trains instead of more efficient diesel electrics, because they work and we don't need the extra power or efficiency...