Wind farms kill 67 eagles in 5 years

petros

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Like all farms that have animals, it's best not to have abattoirs with windows.

 
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Blackleaf

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Perhaps Britain can destroy its chemical weapons

Britain hasn't got any chemical weapons. It's a signatory of the Chemical Weapons Convention.

and rely on coal-fired nuclear missles?

We should take down the windmills - which, as I've mentioned but keeps getting ignored, are completely and utterly USELESS, and EXPENSIVE - and build more coal-fired power plants, as sensible Germany is.

Germany is to open SIX brand new coal-fired power plants this year.

Coal-fired power plants contributed 52% of Germany's electricity demand in the first half of 2013.
Coal plants INCREASED production by about 5% to 130.3 TWh in the first six months of 2013.

At the same German wind turbine output FELL 10% to 22.4 TWh.

The Germans have got it right. Unlike Britain and Canada with the silly reliance of useless wind turbines which only work when the wind is blowing, the Germans won't be seeing their electricity run out by 2020.

We eat birds, don't we?

They're not very "environmentally friendly" these wind turbine when they kill animals, are they?
 

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I'm not being sarcastic. I'm being serious.

And this IS deadly serious. Successive British have been paying heed to the enviroMENTALists for far too long and, as result, they blight the country with ugly, inefficient and expensive wind turbines whilst closing down our power stattions.

When Britain's power runs out by the end of this decade - and it will do whilst governments seem to think the county can live off wind turbines -we'll know who to blame, and the Germans, who are building lots of new coal-fired power stations, and the Chinese, who open a new power station every week, will be laughing at us. They won't run out of leccy.

All this is also true of Canada, which also seems to have a dangerously green-obsessed government which thinks it should litter the country with UGLY, INEFFICIENT AND EXPENSIVE windmills which only work when the wind is blowing wind which will generate nowhere near the amount of electricity needed to keep Canada's lights on.

Britain 'faces energy crisis unless ministers abandon green policies' Britain 'faces energy crisis unless ministers abandon green policies' - Telegraph

If you are serious you need to give your head a shake. We want to eliminate nu clear power not increase it. SOmething about glow in the dark animals just doesn't appeal to me. A couple of dead birds is no big deal as they become part of the food chain.
 

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In California the Turbine Fan Wind farms are abundant. I had hoped to see if any tracking was being done to keep a record of blade bearing failures (20 tons of a three blade prop can roll for a mile), wildfires due to lack of adequate clearance of flammable natural growth and other items limited not only to Raptors. How about the migratory birds as well? Several have been the source (due to mechanical failure) of disastrous wild fires. The generated product is clean energy but the research to further perfect this technology has a long way to go.
 

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Doesn't sound like very much. Seems worth it. Im sure more birds are killed on the road, are electrocuted or various other man made ways. I have to flat out disagree about them being an eyesore. I actually think they look pretty good. Wouldnt mind seeing more.
 

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The article says the numbers of raptor deaths are probably underreported.

Could be. They rely on dogs to find the corpses of birds hit by turbines (actually probably half of them aren't hit; they just get spun out by the low pressure vortex behind the blades). But the dogs don't find them all, so they use a bit of a fudge factor to compesnate for that. As to whetehr that fudge factor is too high or too low, no one knows. According to wind farm opponents it's too low.

But even if you double the number of eagles hit, it still isn't that high. Less than 1 bird/state/year. Compared to the millions killed by building strikes.
 

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If you are serious you need to give your head a shake. We want to eliminate nu clear power not increase it.

I want to increase nuclear and coal power stations and decrease inefficient and expensive windmills.

This is just one of my many policies which will make Britain a better place when I become Prime Minister.
 

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I want to increase nuclear and coal power stations and decrease inefficient and expensive windmills.

This is just one of my many policies which will make Britain a better place when I become Prime Minister.

The trouble with the nuke folk is their addiction to boiling water reactors- cheap to build, efficient, but real fuku- shimas when stuff goes wrong.

Back up generators in a basement on low ground in an earthquake/ tidal wave zone. Like- what could go wrong? A lot of the nuke plant needs to be torn out.

Good article on the new turbines:http://www.treehugger.com/renewable-energy/common-eco-myth-wind-turbines-kill-birds.html
 
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Blackleaf

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The trouble with the nuke folk is their addiction to boiling water reactors- cheap to build, efficient, but real fuku- shimas when stuff goes wrong.

The trouble with the mung bean-eating, fair-trade-coffee-drinking, sandal-wearing, scruffy, sweaty, bearded, dreadlocked, Swampy-worshipping, Friends of the Earth types is their addiction to inefficient, useless, expensive wind turbines, which not only blight previously beautiful landscapes and kill the local wildlife (both of which aren't very environmentally friendly) but only work on the odd occasion when the wind is blowing strongly enough (the Greens forget that wind turbines actually need wind to blow them), which will leave us in the dark with no lights on when the aforementioned Green maniacs make us rely too much on the aforementioned useless, expensive and inefficient wind turbines.

As I've already pointed out, if Britain doesn't take down the wind turbines blighting the countryside - which most people don't even want and some people even go to court to prevent these monstrosities being built in their area - and start building more power stations as more sensible nations like Germany and China are doing then, according to the experts, Britain will be without electricity by the end of the decade.

Canada also seems to be going down the same route by listening to much to the Green idiots.
 

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The trouble with the mung bean-eating, fair-trade-coffee-drinking, sandal-wearing, scruffy, sweaty, bearded, dreadlocked, Swampy-worshipping, Friends of the Earth types is their addiction to inefficient, useless, expensive wind turbines, which not only blight previously beautiful landscapes and kill the local wildlife (both of which aren't very environmentally friendly) but only work on the odd occasion when the wind is blowing strongly enough (the Greens forget that wind turbines actually need wind to blow them), which will leave us in the dark with no lights on when the aforementioned Green maniacs make us rely too much on the aforementioned useless, expensive and inefficient wind turbines.

As I've already pointed out, if Britain doesn't take down the wind turbines blighting the countryside - which most people don't even want and some people even go to court to prevent these monstrosities being built in their area - and start building more power stations as more sensible nations like Germany and China are doing then, according to the experts, Britain will be without electricity by the end of the decade.

Canada also seems to be going down the same route by listening to much to the Green idiots.



Nicely written, Blackleaf. Who wrote it. ??



We are definitely going down the same path, being blind to the fact that we have flowing water (at least in Ontario), and could produce energy enough to power up a bunch of places.

Our little jerked off town used to have its very own hydro generating station, sold it to "Hydro One", and it was shut down. Nice.

Whatever................one starts tilting at windmills (no pun intended) and sooner or later, one gets put in a rubber room.

Just throw up your hands and yell : "sure! ok! **** it!"
 

petros

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Sooner or later a few of these greens are going to realize they've been working for the NG industry to close down coal and oil fired power plants and industries and convert them to NG.

If the US Prez got on TV and said "we're converting everything but you're going to have to pay for it", would anyone have jumped on the hooray wagon?

Obviously not, so they created "Global Warming" so you'd welcome it with open arms and even fundraise to help get it all done.

As an investor in NG, I say "thank you very much you stupid hippies".