Why you hate the Conservatives and what is it about Liberals

zenfisher

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Travis said:
Seem to have hit another nerve
What's wrong free speech bothering everbody!

More ...more... I'm still rolling in the aisles over assmulate. :p 8O :lol:
 

Travis

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So what is wrong the word Assumlate, Okay I know it is not very Canadian to use this word, But then I do not subcribe to political correctness.
Assumlate is a very useful word when one is describing America and it works very well in America, Americans are Americans first nationality comes second, and every American subscribes and seeks out to be American first, no matter where they come from they assumulate into American way of life, it's a great idea.
 

Said1

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Re: RE: Why you hate the Conservatives and what is it about

Travis said:
So what is wrong the word Assumlate, Okay I know it is not very Canadian to use this word, But then I do not subcribe to political correctness.
Assumlate is a very useful word when one is describing America and it works very well in America, Americans are Americans first nationality comes second, and every American subscribes and seeks out to be American first, no matter where they come from they assumulate into American way of life, it's a great idea.

It's "Assimilate" , Boy!

And, if what you say is true (Scouts Honor), why do people call themselves "African-American" or "Asian-American"?
 

Jay

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LeftCoast said:
Jay said:
I'm not talking about comparing Canada to other nations or states.

Sure you are. Unless you are comparing the Canadian political spectrum to some other one, the centre in Canada is simply the centre in Canada. There is no universal standard on what is left and what is right.

Unless you mean the centre is left of where you are.

Oh...in politics class back in high school, they didn't talk about the Canadian political spectrum they talked about a political spectrum. They also said Canada was generally left of centre politically speaking. We didn't make up our own political spectrum....it already existed.
 

peapod

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You gotta wonder who these guys blame when they crap their pants...oh I know...its the left's fault. :lol: :lol: :lol: How can you really hate them...the comedy they provide is priceless..if not distrubing 8O

http://www.rightwingeye.com/
 

Vanni Fucci

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Re: RE: Why you hate the Conservatives and what is it about

Travis said:
So what is wrong the word Assumlate, Okay I know it is not very Canadian to use this word, But then I do not subcribe to political correctness.

Evidently, you don't subscribe to dictionary.com either... :lol:

Travis said:
Assumlate is a very useful word when one is describing America and it works very well in America, Americans are Americans first nationality comes second, and every American subscribes and seeks out to be American first, no matter where they come from they assumulate into American way of life, it's a great idea.

Sure it's a great idea...if it were 1802, that is... :roll:
 

I think not

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Said1 said:
Travis said:
So what is wrong the word Assumlate, Okay I know it is not very Canadian to use this word, But then I do not subcribe to political correctness.
Assumlate is a very useful word when one is describing America and it works very well in America, Americans are Americans first nationality comes second, and every American subscribes and seeks out to be American first, no matter where they come from they assumulate into American way of life, it's a great idea.

It's "Assimilate" , Boy!

And, if what you say is true (Scouts Honor), why do people call themselves "African-American" or "Asian-American"?

We are all Americans and preserve our cultural identity by attaching African-, Asian-, Greek- etc... It is an issue of heritage. And that is not the case with everyone either.
The question should be, do they see themselves as American or Asian? I think the fact they chose to become American citizens speaks for itself. If they haven't become American citizens, then no doubt they call themselves wherever they came from.

Perhaps if you understood the meaning of obtaining a citizenship, in any country, you wouldn't ask the question.
 

LeftCoast

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Jay said:
LeftCoast said:
Jay said:
I'm not talking about comparing Canada to other nations or states.

Sure you are. Unless you are comparing the Canadian political spectrum to some other one, the centre in Canada is simply the centre in Canada. There is no universal standard on what is left and what is right.

Unless you mean the centre is left of where you are.

Oh...in politics class back in high school, they didn't talk about the Canadian political spectrum they talked about a political spectrum. They also said Canada was generally left of centre politically speaking. We didn't make up our own political spectrum....it already existed.

So because "they" told you so it must be true.

When you are talking left, right, centre it is all relative. Canada, relative to most of Europe is centre/right. Relative to the US Canada is generally left of centre. The US relative to most other western democracies is definitely right of centre. The UK - currently is positioned very similar to Canada (a war mongering labour party PM with the Torries and Social Democrats in opposition).

So when you say Canada is left of centre it implies some standard of comparison. From my perspective (regardless of my handle on this forum, I am a centrist) Canada is only left of centre when compared to the US.

Want to talk extremist? The US is the only OECD country that doesn't have some form of health coverage for all citizens or residents. As a result 1 in 5 Americans has no health insurance. The US spends the least on foreign aid as a percentage of GDP (somewhere around 0.15%) on any of the OECD countries, but spended close to 4% of GDP on its military.

Where do you put Canada in a more universal political spectrum?

Canada has a free market open economy, is a vocal advocate of free trade, is the only G8 country that regularly runs a budget surplus, has universal healthcare, a universal pension plan and unemployment insurance, but unlike say New Zealand, does not have a guaranteed minium income. Unions activity in Canada varies by region, with Alberta and Newfoundland quite un-unionized with Quebec, Ontario and BC being more unionized. Canada spends about right in the middle of the OECD pack on foreign aid, but contributes more than most countries to UN peace keeping. Canada has signed the Kyoto agreement, but has dragged its feet on implementing any specific plans to meet these committments. Canada is a member of the WTO, NAFTA, APEC, NATO,NORAD and a bunch of other multi-party treaties. Canada like Spain, Denmark and the Netherlands has legalized gay marriage, but unlike the Netherlands and Switzerland is yet to legalize pot, prostitution or hard drugs.

Sounds pretty centrist to me.
 

Jay

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I hear what you’re saying, and I'm not going to argue with you over the technicalities anymore, but from my perspective things like "no two-tier health care" is an extremist point of view (and it is current policy)...and is not centralist. In fact I believe it is stupid and stifling and surely smacks of communism....
 

TenPenny

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I like assumlate. It's a nice word.

Americans telling us how everyone fits in...unless you're vaguely Arabic, no matter how far back. God help you, then. You must be a terrorist. But it's okay to support the IRA, 'cause they're fine now.


Jeezus, just what we need. We have our own problems here, we don't need Americans telling us how their system is better. You guys can't even run a simple goddam election without it taking weeks to count. And that's even with the help of voting machines. Everyone's a happy American, as long as your skin is white and you're of Anglo Saxon or other Eurpoean heritage. Except the French.

All the Americans seem to hate France these days, despite the fact that without France, THE US WOULDN'T EXIST.

And by the way, yes, the Americans don't need us telling them how to do things. That's why I don't bother criticizing the US gov't. It's not my deal. I hated Celluci as an ambassador, he could never stay out of things that didn't involve him. I'm glad the new guy seems to understand the word Ambassador.
 

Numure

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Alberta's GDP: $172.0 Billion
Québec's GDP: $267.0 Billion (21% Of national)
Ontario's GDP: $470.40 Billion
British Columbia's GDP : $156,48 Billion
 

LeftCoast

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Re: RE: Why you hate the Conservatives and what is it about

Jay said:
I hear what you’re saying, and I'm not going to argue with you over the technicalities anymore, but from my perspective things like "no two-tier health care" is an extremist point of view (and it is current policy)...and is not centralist. In fact I believe it is stupid and stifling and surely smacks of communism....

Which illustrates not that Canada is left leaning, but that your are on the extreme right of the political spectrum in Canada. Anyone that would associate universal and equal access to healthcare with communism either understands neither or is somewhat to the right of Anne Coulter.
 

Jay

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Communism

N

1: a form of socialism that abolishes private ownership.

2: a political theory favoring collectivism in a classless society.

Nice and simple...you call it equal access...I call it communism...means the same in this discussion.


Any system that tells GPs they can't open up private clinics and all the clinics are government owned, and the increasingly normal fashion is walk-in clinics, is communism....

Don't try to pretend that our system in healthcare isn't leftist extremism; your not fooling me anyways.
 

Jay

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Even the Quebec justice system is catching on....
 

manda

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Why do I hate conservatives? because I hate Steven Harpers 1920's views....I'm too progressive to agree to having rights and freedoms denied. I'm not big on the liberals either, I keep voting NDP, but I'm a minority
 

bluealberta

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Cosmo said:
Can I add my blah to your's and Rev's, Pea? ;)

Small minds, small words. Get over it, he is exactly right. You are and will be continue to be proven wrong, once you actually decide to see beyond your narrow little socialist agenda type world.