Re: Why you hate the Conservatives and what is it about Libe
Jay said:
LeftCoast said:
Jay said:
I'm not talking about comparing Canada to other nations or states.
Sure you are. Unless you are comparing the Canadian political spectrum to some other one, the centre in Canada is simply the centre in Canada. There is no universal standard on what is left and what is right.
Unless you mean the centre is left of where you are.
Oh...in politics class back in high school, they didn't talk about the Canadian political spectrum they talked about a political spectrum. They also said Canada was generally left of centre politically speaking. We didn't make up our own political spectrum....it already existed.
So because "they" told you so it must be true.
When you are talking left, right, centre it is all relative. Canada, relative to most of Europe is centre/right. Relative to the US Canada is generally left of centre. The US relative to most other western democracies is definitely right of centre. The UK - currently is positioned very similar to Canada (a war mongering labour party PM with the Torries and Social Democrats in opposition).
So when you say Canada is left of centre it implies some standard of comparison. From my perspective (regardless of my handle on this forum, I am a centrist) Canada is only left of centre when compared to the US.
Want to talk extremist? The US is the only OECD country that doesn't have some form of health coverage for all citizens or residents. As a result 1 in 5 Americans has no health insurance. The US spends the least on foreign aid as a percentage of GDP (somewhere around 0.15%) on any of the OECD countries, but spended close to 4% of GDP on its military.
Where do you put Canada in a more universal political spectrum?
Canada has a free market open economy, is a vocal advocate of free trade, is the only G8 country that regularly runs a budget surplus, has universal healthcare, a universal pension plan and unemployment insurance, but unlike say New Zealand, does not have a guaranteed minium income. Unions activity in Canada varies by region, with Alberta and Newfoundland quite un-unionized with Quebec, Ontario and BC being more unionized. Canada spends about right in the middle of the OECD pack on foreign aid, but contributes more than most countries to UN peace keeping. Canada has signed the Kyoto agreement, but has dragged its feet on implementing any specific plans to meet these committments. Canada is a member of the WTO, NAFTA, APEC, NATO,NORAD and a bunch of other multi-party treaties. Canada like Spain, Denmark and the Netherlands has legalized gay marriage, but unlike the Netherlands and Switzerland is yet to legalize pot, prostitution or hard drugs.
Sounds pretty centrist to me.