RE: Why you hate the Cons
I look forward to the day Old Glory is flying over the legislature in Edmonton!
I look forward to the day Old Glory is flying over the legislature in Edmonton!
Why you hate the Conservatives and what is it about Liberals
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Re: RE: Why you hate the Conservatives and what is it about
You will find, Travis, that freedom of expression only applies to the left thinkers on this forum, everyone who disagrees with them is a bigot, dinosaur, neanderthal, prejudiced, out of touch, neo-con, bush lover, homophobe, white supremacist, religious whacko, US lover, anti-Canadian, ............I don't think I missed any, but you all have called us right wingers so many stupid names it is hard to keep track of them all. And they are all incorrect, you just don't know it because we don't fit your little intolerant circle, even though you all claim to be inclusive and tolerant, when in fact you exclusive of anyone with another opinion, and intolerant of anyone with another viewpoint. For shame.
Cosmo said:Travis said:
Free speech doesn't bother me in the least, Travis. You have a right to your opinion and are free to express it. I'm free to "blah" it if I think it's deserving.
You will find, Travis, that freedom of expression only applies to the left thinkers on this forum, everyone who disagrees with them is a bigot, dinosaur, neanderthal, prejudiced, out of touch, neo-con, bush lover, homophobe, white supremacist, religious whacko, US lover, anti-Canadian, ............I don't think I missed any, but you all have called us right wingers so many stupid names it is hard to keep track of them all. And they are all incorrect, you just don't know it because we don't fit your little intolerant circle, even though you all claim to be inclusive and tolerant, when in fact you exclusive of anyone with another opinion, and intolerant of anyone with another viewpoint. For shame.
Re: RE: Why you hate the Conservatives and what is it about
However, to be fair, we would have to get rid of about three tiers to get DOWN to a two tier system. This single tier system is the biggest myth ever produced in Canada. Look for it under the fiction category in your local library, it is not a truth at all.
Jay said:
However, to be fair, we would have to get rid of about three tiers to get DOWN to a two tier system. This single tier system is the biggest myth ever produced in Canada. Look for it under the fiction category in your local library, it is not a truth at all.
Re: Why you hate the Conservatives and what is it about Libe
Doctors are allowed to run privatly owned clinics in Québec, btw.
Jay said:
Doctors are allowed to run privatly owned clinics in Québec, btw.
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That's nice, now compare populations, or as Jean says, poopulations. Why are you even arguing anything? Albertans put more per capita into Canada than any other province. That is a fact, no argument necessary. Of course Ontarios GDP is higher, they have a larger population. Geez, get over it already.
Numure said:
That's nice, now compare populations, or as Jean says, poopulations. Why are you even arguing anything? Albertans put more per capita into Canada than any other province. That is a fact, no argument necessary. Of course Ontarios GDP is higher, they have a larger population. Geez, get over it already.
Re: RE: Why you hate the Cons
Well, now, I prefer the Republic of Alberta flag myself. And yes, Calgary is a great city.
Toro said:
Well, now, I prefer the Republic of Alberta flag myself. And yes, Calgary is a great city.
Re: RE: Why you hate the Cons
The old glory hangs in Canada, is the day the last true Canadian dies. Sorry, Toro, nothing personal, but I am a very proud Canadian, and I DESPISE Bush
Toro said:
The old glory hangs in Canada, is the day the last true Canadian dies. Sorry, Toro, nothing personal, but I am a very proud Canadian, and I DESPISE Bush
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Everyone despises Bush, what on earth are you sorry about?
manda said:
Everyone despises Bush, what on earth are you sorry about?
RE: Why you hate the Conservatives and what is it about Libe
Sorry that I attacked her personal quote. i don't understand how Bush got elected to a second term...I'd love to know how that vote rigging worked, I could become Prime Minister really easily if I got a hold of that system...Look out world!!!!
Sorry that I attacked her personal quote. i don't understand how Bush got elected to a second term...I'd love to know how that vote rigging worked, I could become Prime Minister really easily if I got a hold of that system...Look out world!!!!
Re: RE: Why you hate the Conservatives and what is it about
For the same reason Blair and Howard got elected.
manda said:
For the same reason Blair and Howard got elected.
RE: Why you hate the Conservatives and what is it about Libe
God! You don't even know how the Canadian healthcare system works.
Virtually all clinical practices in Canada are private practices, owned and operated by the physicians themselves - not by the government.
Under the Canada Health Act doctors must accept Medical Services Plan (in BC - not sure what it is called in Alberta) insurance and are prevented from direct billing patients.
Doctors, through their professional association (BCMA in BC) provide their own malpractice insurance, hire nurses, administrative staff, janitors, etc. They own or lease their own facilities, purchase their exam room equipment (and write it off as a business expense) etc. They send specimines out to private labs and refer patients to specialists who are also in private practice. With the exception of community health (at least in BC) most physicians are in private practice. They must pay the hospitals for admitting rights.
Walk-in clinics are generally community health or primary care (I can't speak for Alberta). Since primary/community healthcare is for the most part preventative in outlook, it is very difficult to provide such a service through a private system.
The only thing not private about it is that there is a single health insurance plan and most (but not all) hospitals - that is acute care facilities (at least in BC) are run by the provinces 6 Health Authorities. All medical procedures that require an overnight stay (i believe) are performed in public hospitals.
It's called a single payer system - not a single provider system.
So far you have demonstrated that you don't really understand the basic differences between communism, socialism and capitalism and can't seem to grasp that most countrys operate under some sort of hybrid form.
You make sweeping claims about the Canadian healthcare system, but hold to some misguided beleive that doctors in Canada are not permitted to be in private practice.
BTW - the same situation happens in the US. Physicians who are part of a Health Management Organization (HMO) are not permitted to direct bill their patients and patients who are part of the HMO must use HMO hospitals and physicians.
God! You don't even know how the Canadian healthcare system works.
Virtually all clinical practices in Canada are private practices, owned and operated by the physicians themselves - not by the government.
Under the Canada Health Act doctors must accept Medical Services Plan (in BC - not sure what it is called in Alberta) insurance and are prevented from direct billing patients.
Doctors, through their professional association (BCMA in BC) provide their own malpractice insurance, hire nurses, administrative staff, janitors, etc. They own or lease their own facilities, purchase their exam room equipment (and write it off as a business expense) etc. They send specimines out to private labs and refer patients to specialists who are also in private practice. With the exception of community health (at least in BC) most physicians are in private practice. They must pay the hospitals for admitting rights.
Walk-in clinics are generally community health or primary care (I can't speak for Alberta). Since primary/community healthcare is for the most part preventative in outlook, it is very difficult to provide such a service through a private system.
The only thing not private about it is that there is a single health insurance plan and most (but not all) hospitals - that is acute care facilities (at least in BC) are run by the provinces 6 Health Authorities. All medical procedures that require an overnight stay (i believe) are performed in public hospitals.
It's called a single payer system - not a single provider system.
So far you have demonstrated that you don't really understand the basic differences between communism, socialism and capitalism and can't seem to grasp that most countrys operate under some sort of hybrid form.
You make sweeping claims about the Canadian healthcare system, but hold to some misguided beleive that doctors in Canada are not permitted to be in private practice.
BTW - the same situation happens in the US. Physicians who are part of a Health Management Organization (HMO) are not permitted to direct bill their patients and patients who are part of the HMO must use HMO hospitals and physicians.
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I suppose I could have saved you all that if I was a little less general. They can't be paid for by the customer...they can't open up a private practice and charge the customer money...sorry.
But I did forget to mention that the Feds have nothing to do with health care...the provinces signed away constitutional rights...we have government run (paid for) health care under a centralist federal government....
LeftCoast said:
I suppose I could have saved you all that if I was a little less general. They can't be paid for by the customer...they can't open up a private practice and charge the customer money...sorry.
But I did forget to mention that the Feds have nothing to do with health care...the provinces signed away constitutional rights...we have government run (paid for) health care under a centralist federal government....
Re: Why you hate the Conservatives and what is it about Libe
Are these public-private (P3 Projects)? P3s are when a private company is given licencing to build a hospital, or other facility, manage maintenance and infrastructure services. All health services are paid for and by our public system.
Numure said:
Are these public-private (P3 Projects)? P3s are when a private company is given licencing to build a hospital, or other facility, manage maintenance and infrastructure services. All health services are paid for and by our public system.
Re: Why you hate the Conservatives and what is it about Libe
Only one is in Gatineau. I think its the only one in this country. But yes, all bills are paid by the Provincial Goverment, as it should be. If you want private healthcare, head to the south. They will make it their plaisure to accept your money.
Said1 said:
Only one is in Gatineau. I think its the only one in this country. But yes, all bills are paid by the Provincial Goverment, as it should be. If you want private healthcare, head to the south. They will make it their plaisure to accept your money.
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Alright...enough with the lies Jay...
Since the Canada Health Act was passed, provinces NEVER had that right...so stop whining about signing away rights that the provinces never had in the first place...
Jay said:
Alright...enough with the lies Jay...
Since the Canada Health Act was passed, provinces NEVER had that right...so stop whining about signing away rights that the provinces never had in the first place...
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No that's a lie...management of hospitals, excluding marine hospitals is a provincial matter, health is a federal matter...
Jay said:
No that's a lie...management of hospitals, excluding marine hospitals is a provincial matter, health is a federal matter...