"Why won't God heal amputees?"

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God answers the prayer of man when he asks of Him; but there are many conditions:
If man asks something which is against his advantage, while he does not know that, and God knows the forefuture: He knows that his request is against his advantage, so He will not give him his request.
E.g. a man admires a woman and wants her as his wife, and he asks God, but He does not give him that woman as his wife; why?
That man loves the woman very much, and love is blind as do they say; so when he marries her, she will quarrel with his mother, and he will be to her side against his mother -- and so will go to Hell.
Or that woman is morally corrupt, and will cause for him troubles and problems and may commit some acts against his honor; therefore, God does not give him that woman.

Second If man prays for something impossible: like he wants the Moon to perish and disappear, or the sun so and so; of course God is All-Able to do anything, but He is Most Wise.

Prophet Mohammed asked his Lord to give him a material or objective miracle like the staff of Moses or the female camel of Salih, according to the demand of his people, but God did not give him that.

I will bring them from the north country,
and gather them from the coasts of the earth,

Book of the Levites or Priests Chapter 26
includes the warning of the Israelite of severe punishment if they disobey His commandments, and on the other hand includes the good promising of them with prosperity and blessings if they obey Him and associate none with Him in the worshiping of other gods.

Their punishment was so severe and so frequent:
Within themselves: in the Book of Judges: everytime He sets against them some rulers and kings to torture them.
Assuria attacked them.
They fell in the idolatry and worshipped the stars of the sky and the idols: Baalim and Astaroth; they were warned by many prophets, the last one of them was Jeremiah whom they put in Jail and was released by Nabuchodonosor.
Babylon King Nabuchodonosor attacked them.
Then came the Christ, and they disobeyed him and hurt him.
Then his apostles came and Jews hurt them and opposed them.
So They were destroyed by Titus at 70 AD
Then Mohammed came and they opposed him, and were utterly punished.

So in the time of Moses, he ordered them to conquer Jericho; the people of which worshipped the idols, but they rebelled and were punished by bewildering for 40 years.
Now they came to Palestine, not according to God's command, and they killed its people, drove them from their homes and persecuted them and spread the destruction in the Arab countries round about them, and so they will be utterly destroyed as the prophecy says:
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AnnaG

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In my experience, AG, all amputation is traumatic, whether accidental or intentional (medical to preserve a life). An individual who experiences amputation may be subject to profound spiritual and physical challenges and adaptations that can span a lifetime. There are some positives, however. The recovery process puts those with amputations in relationship with some of the most compassionate and competent rehabilitation personnel on the planet. Those who experience amputation may gain personal coping resources (strategies, skills and support people) that they might otherwise never acquire in life apart from the amputation event.
Of course, amputation is traumatic.
Seems like a lot of mights and maybes in there.
"Gee, let's just toss some humans on the planet and see if they can gain personal coping strategies and stuff". Or more sensibly it is more like "creator(s)" are indifferent as to what goes on upon the planet, assuming these creatures exist in the first place ( and that is a very very large assumption).

From an eternal perspective, amputation is carnal and temporary. It does not impact eternity. That is why Jesus spoke as He did: "If your right eye causes you to stumble, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell." (Matthew 5:29; 18:9 NIV) Obviously, Jesus is speaking metaphorically here and the context is not physical, but spiritual. (Nonetheless, I fully expect some who would otherwise insist that the Bible is complete metaphor to object and declare that this statement by Jesus is literal.) But the perspective stands. Physical disability does not determine standing with God, now or in eternity.
uhuh So if the diseased and crippled cause humanity to stumble, we should cut it out and get rid of it. Obviously, that doesn't work; religions, politics, and greed are still around and are not likely to go anywhere anytime in the foreseeable future. The gods could keep their "love" and I wouldn't notice the difference.

Who is to blame for healthy people?
Same as who is to blame for unhealthy ones.
If I eat nothing but fatty foods and get sick, there ain't no-one else to blame.

You born yesterday christians are something else.
True dat.

Blessed are the poor in body is where they would fit in. It could cover a multitude of sins that would not be forgiven if the person had a 'healthy body with all it parts present and working. The order given might be the order that they appear in at the Great White Throne, they are healed and then they are witnesses to the healing of a great many people before that day ends. Would that be considered a 'greater reward'? (granted the last ones on the list are already perfected during the 1,000 years so God greets them as such)

M't:5:3:
Blessed are the poor in spirit:
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
I don't suppose you could translate all that into a "Bible for Dummies" version, huh?


Your post covered birth defects, most are caused by man ****ing around with the local environment rather that that sort of birth being 'the hand of God' at work.
uhuh And your all-powerful, all-knowing, all-seeing, all-etc creator couldn't see it coming? Can't do dick about it? What?
The rest just mentioned that God will fix all the defects at the same time he fixes all of mine and all of yours.
I won't hold my breath waiting for that.

As the Pater, God doesn't meddle in the realm of the Mater (matter/material), only ethereal.
Like I said, if gods exist, they couldn't give a crap what goes on here.
 

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As stated. You blame God for the bad but discount the good. That is a huge failure for atheists and agnotics alike.
 

AnnaG

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As stated. You blame God for the bad but discount the good. That is a huge failure for atheists and agnotics alike.
wow Obtuseness raises its head.
In pointing out the "bad" things, atheists and agnostics are showing that this "godly love" is a pile of fairy dung. What part of "non-belief" don't you understand?
I can't blame something that I am not sure even exists for bad stuff any more than I can blame it for the good stuff.
 

AnnaG

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You can't blame nothing for something.
I don't blame nothing for anything. As I said, if I eat fatty foods and get sick because of it, I have only myself to blame. And when I get well, I have only myself to blame.
So how come the faithful are always ready to praise their deities when things are good, and then blame "evil" or "Satan" for the bad. Especially when they say their deity created EVERYTHING (including evil) in the first place?

"There is no God and I hate him" atheism.
That isn't atheism. Get real.
 

gerryh

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From an eternal perspective, amputation is carnal and temporary. It does not impact eternity. That is why Jesus spoke as He did: "If your right eye causes you to stumble, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell." (Matthew 5:29; 18:9 NIV) Obviously, Jesus is speaking metaphorically here and the context is not physical, but spiritual. (Nonetheless, I fully expect some who would otherwise insist that the Bible is complete metaphor to object and declare that this statement by Jesus is literal.) But the perspective stands. Physical disability does not determine standing with God, now or in eternity.

uhuh So if the diseased and crippled cause humanity to stumble, we should cut it out and get rid of it.


That's not what he said.

uhuh And your all-powerful, all-knowing, all-seeing, all-etc creator couldn't see it coming? Can't do dick about it? What?
I won't hold my breath waiting for that.

Like I said, if gods exist, they couldn't give a crap what goes on here.


Free will..... and sometimes the answer is "no". Simple really, but I know people like you, don't like those answers.
 

AnnaG

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People like me? lol
I don't really care that much. Pointing out logical fallacies and the silly idiosyncrasies is what I care about.
And there is no such thing as free will. Each of us are slaves to our DNA and the electrochemical functions in our brains.
 

gerryh

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People like me? lol
I don't really care that much. Pointing out logical fallacies and the silly idiosyncrasies is what I care about.
And there is no such thing as free will. Each of us are slaves to our DNA and the electrochemical functions in our brains.


Of course, why don't we we call a spade a spade. You're a troll, and your sole purpose in these threads, at least, is to troll.

"There is no God and I hate him because he said no" atheism?


Huh?
 

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I don't suppose you could translate all that into a "Bible for Dummies" version, huh?
If you are intentionally tormented in this life either through a physical deformity or because of your belief in God you are automatically;ly in line for more than the 'basic reward'. Job had what he lost doubled if an example is demanded.
 

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So amputation may be a good thing or not depending upon circumstances, but since when is it cool for a baby to be born with something weird like dystrophic epidermolysis bullosa or hydrocephalus or anencephaly? Born with not much to look forward to but a lifetime of sometimes excruciating pain? Since when is crap like that necessary?
"Well, god works in mysterious ways". No shyte, Sherlock.
If the sunnuvabitch exists, it's easier to think it is a sadistic, nasty piece of work, not worthy of praise of any sort.

No pain no gain, if not for evil we wouldn't know good. Welcome to the human sine wave it gos up to the heavens and down to the pit. The necessary evil exists to instruct as to the necessary good, you are here to be tested, you make the grade or you don't. Maybe next time you'll do better. Maybe next time you'll know what life is about.