Why The Towers Fell

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LOOK PAL IVE EXPLAINED MANY TIMES I SUFFER FROM DYSLEXIA, AND IF SPELLING THAT WORD AIN'T HARD ENOUGH FOR PEOPLE LIKE ME, THEN THE GUY WHO INVENTED IT TO DESCRIBE OUR CONDITION, SHOULD BE SHOT, BUT HEY I CARE NOT, LIKE I SAY WHAT IS THE POINT OF ME TALKING TO YOU CDNBEAR ,YOU AND ME WILL NEVER AGREE SO IM NOT BOTHERED ANY MORE, ABOUT YOUR CONSTANT WHINING IN MY THREADS, IVE HAD IT WITH YOU LOT LIKE IVE SAID BEFORE," ITS LIKE TRYING TO EDUCATE PORK."!!!!!!
Well perhaps if you didn't yell, didn't insult as a main tactic or actually supplied something credible, you could get through.

As for whining?

You spent the bulk of your time here whining about how stupid we all are, how everything you post is verifiable and how your right and we're wrong.

Now, how about providing some proof, other then the copy & paste bs you continually supply. Try something tangible. Something like what I asked for, about your pic. Some hard proof.

Here's the jist dude. I have hard proof, I've found it myself. I didn't need a site to dig it u...er...make it up for me.

Go out and educate yourself. It isn't hard. Unless you believe what you believe because that all you want to believe.

Call that gentleman who's telephone number I supplied and ask him how a kiln works and ask him if my equation is correct.

That has to be the simplest thing you can do to start using reality, instead of the net to learn.
 

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Well perhaps if you didn't yell, didn't insult as a main tactic or actually supplied something credible, you could get through.

As for whining?

You spent the bulk of your time here whining about how stupid we all are, how everything you post is verifiable and how your right and we're wrong.

Now, how about providing some proof, other then the copy & paste bs you continually supply. Try something tangible. Something like what I asked for, about your pic. Some hard proof.

Here's the jist dude. I have hard proof, I've found it myself. I didn't need a site to dig it u...er...make it up for me.

Go out and educate yourself. It isn't hard. Unless you believe what you believe because that all you want to believe.

Call that gentleman who's telephone number I supplied and ask him how a kiln works and ask him if my equation is correct.

That has to be the simplest thing you can do to start using reality, instead of the net to learn.

Well perhaps if you didn't yell, didn't insult as a main tactic or actually supplied something credible, you could get through.

i was brought up in on the road, it wernt easy ,i never expected it to be, Ive had to fight all my life, maybe that's why I'm so obnoxious to you lot ,i cant help that, when you have been beaten up, robed, and burned out, maybe you will realise why, but don't want your or any others sympathy i guess i thrive on strife as if that's what your used too then to expect any different reaction is a hard change to make but hey that's my problem ,for your info i know about a kiln and **** i worked in many jobs in my life once i worked in a big kiln drying hops not the same but it was a kiln.the principals the same the temperature ain't i admit but were not talking about kilns were talking jet fuel

Now, how about providing some proof, other then the copy & paste
when i started in this thread i was prepared to give you facts as i saw them, but you persisted with remarks like, "free fall" whats that i want proof .? thermite ignition caps det cord, you wanted me to provide proof of lots of things impossible ,without cut/pasting some things, to back up my theory's, but when i show these yet again you come back with your pathetic smileys pics, as if they proved anything ,only thing they proved to me was you did not like it, when i showed you some thing irrefutable, many times Ive proved you wrong, like about the plane, and **** but then you try a different tactic, and attack from another angle, you tell me how the hell I'm meant to provide evidence, without going to a web page, to substanciate my clams you tell me ,even you use them,to prove your claims and besides the web is a great place to find things of relevance
 

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i was brought up in on the road, it wernt easy ,i never expected it to be, Ive had to fight all my life, maybe that's why I'm so obnoxious to you lot ,i cant help that, when you have been beaten up, robed, and burned out, maybe you will realise why, but don't want your or any others sympathy i guess i thrive on strife as if that's what your used too then to expect any different reaction is a hard change to make but hey that's my problem ,for your info i know about a kiln and **** i worked in many jobs in my life once i worked in a big kiln drying hops not the same but it was a kiln.the principals the same the temperature ain't i admit but were not talking about kilns were talking jet fuel
First off...No we're talking about ground zero and the heat and fire still smoldering months after 9/11. The principal is the same as an airtight stove and a kiln.

It's as simple as that. If you aren't willing to prove me wrong, besides just saying I'm wrong...you're lost and so is your argument.

Secondly...As for having a ruff life...dude, you're preaching to the chior and you do not have a lock on misery around these parts.

when i started in this thread i was prepared to give you facts as i saw them, but you persisted with remarks like, "free fall" whats that i want proof .? thermite ignition caps det cord, you wanted me to provide proof of lots of things impossible ,without cut/pasting some things, to back up my theory's, but when i show these yet again you come back with your pathetic smileys pics, as if they proved anything ,only thing they proved to me was you did not like it, when i showed you some thing irrefutable, many times Ive proved you wrong, like about the plane, and **** but then you try a different tactic, and attack from another angle, you tell me how the hell I'm meant to provide evidence, without going to a web page, to substanciate my clams you tell me ,even you use them,to prove your claims and besides the web is a great place to find things of relevance
Again...Firstly, you didn't start this thread, ITN did.

The sites I've used have no interest in 9/11. They are simply fact of point sites to prove what I have stated. The impartiality of them, lies in stark contrast to the bias of each and every site you use.

You've only proven me incorrect on one point. That the design was meant to take the impact of a plane low on fuel on approach. I already conceded that. Conceding is what you do when you've been proven wrong. As in there is such a thing as an airtight wood burning stove.

Try using some unbiased sites to back up the science foisted by the sites you haunt.
 
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With all due respect Scratch, I didn't realise you were in the debate. Although I wouldn't call what quandary does...debate.

There are many aspects about the events of 9/11 that have left me wanting. Believe me, I need more proof to be fully convinced that somebody didn't see this coming.

But for all the hype and fan fair...in my humblest, educated and experienced opinion, the towers came down because two planes were flown into them. That does not remove the possibility that there may have been failsafe explosives in the buildings, (though I highly doubt it, explosives have a shelf life.).

But I've spoken to first hand eye witnesses, firemen and experts in the various fields involved. Their unanimous opinion is that the planes brought down the towers.

This of course does not remove the possibility that the events were allowed to happen to further an agenda. As I believe Pearl Harbour was allowed to happen for the same reasons.

So Scratch...if you have something that doesn't fly in the face of known, proven and verifiable science, please, by all means bring it on. I for one will not attack you.

Other then that, the bulk if not the entirety of what has been put forth is tripe.

In My Personal Humble Opinion and Without Prejudice

With all due respect to you CB,
I am going to tell you that I was watching the news at the exact time that this event occurred. My Lady friend was watching as well. We were on our way out to shoot pool and have a few brews.
As we watched, it was not in horror but almost in relief for neither one of us could have cared less because it was happening to America and we didn't even bother to watch the second plane hit.
We turned off the TV not giving a W5 about it. When we had made the rounds of the places that we usually frequented the consensus of the event was the same.....About damn time that the buggers finally got what was too long in coming...
So to answer your question, I have nothing to add because I didn't care then and I don't care now.
We just were sorry that they didn't hit the Pentagon correctly and missed the White House.
The less of them there are the better off we will all be.


 

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In My Personal Humble Opinion and Without Prejudice

With all due respect to you CB,
I am going to tell you that I was watching the news at the exact time that this event occurred. My Lady friend was watching as well. We were on our way out to shoot pool and have a few brews.
As we watched, it was not in horror but almost in relief for neither one of us could have cared less because it was happening to America and we didn't even bother to watch the second plane hit.
We turned off the TV not giving a W5 about it. When we had made the rounds of the places that we usually frequented the consensus of the event was the same.....About damn time that the buggers finally got what was too long in coming...
So to answer your question, I have nothing to add because I didn't care then and I don't care now.
We just were sorry that they didn't hit the Pentagon correctly and missed the White House.
The less of them there are the better off we will all be.


You've got to be kidding...you are kidding right? 8O
 

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First off...No we're talking about ground zero and the heat and fire still smoldering months after 9/11. The principal is the same as an airtight stove and a kiln.

It's as simple as that. If you aren't willing to prove me wrong, besides just saying I'm wrong...you're lost and so is your argument.

Secondly...As for having a ruff life...dude, you're preaching to the chior and you do not have a lock on misery around these parts.

Again...Firstly, you didn't start this thread, ITN did.

The sites I've used have no interest in 9/11. They are simply fact of point sites to prove what I have stated. The impartiality of them removes the bias each and every site you use.

You've only proven me incorrect on one point. That the design was meant to take the impact of a plane low on fuel on approach. I already conceded that. Conceding is what you do when you've been proven wrong. As in there is such a thing as an airtight wood burning stove.

Try using some unbiased sites to back up the science foisted by the sites you haunt.



Secondly...As for having a ruff life...dude, you're preaching to the chior and you do not have a lock on misery around these parts.

like i said i ain't looking for sympathy drop it OK and never asked for it i just said thats why i dont take crap from no one

First off...No we're talking about ground zero and the heat and fire still smoldering months after 9/11. The principal is the same as an airtight stove and a kiln.

heat imaging cameras pictures were taken of the site these heat sources could not be accounted for

It's as simple as that. If you aren't willing to prove me wrong, besides just saying I'm wrong...you're lost and so is your argument.
i have shown things to others about the fact that you would not need miles of det cord ,and when people say that the squibs are pressure building up and popping the windows that's B/S ,take a look again at the footage they can be seen going off all the way down some times two or three at a time,on different floors, if the pressure is released by the popping of a window, where does the pressure buildup start from when one window or so has already popped, also why would not the force of it escape from the the top of the building as it fell ,why was the concrete turned to a power, like a pyroclastic cloud and bone fragments found on roofs 1/4 of a mile away, explosions were heard from below as some of the recordings of eyewitness fire fighters testify, again why were no plane wreckage things in the pentagon attack found, why take all surrounding video tapes away why ...??????,to many whys m8 to many for this not to be a cover up
 

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like i said i ain't looking for sympathy drop it OK and never asked for it i just said thats why i dont take crap from no one
Dude, I have a chip on my shoulder that weighs more then you, all I'm saying is, we all have crosses to bear and skeletons in our closets.

heat imaging cameras pictures were taken of the site these heat sources could not be accounted for
Says who?

i have shown things to others about the fact that you would not need miles of det cord ,and when people say that the squibs are pressure building up and popping the windows that's B/S ,take a look again at the footage they can be seen going off all the way down some times two or three at a time,on different floors, if the pressure is released by the popping of a window, where does the pressure buildup start from when one window or so has already popped, also why would not the force of it escape from the the top of the building as it fell ,why was the concrete turned to a power, like a pyroclastic cloud and bone fragments found on roofs 1/4 of a mile away, explosions were heard from below as some of the recordings of eyewitness fire fighters testify, again why were no plane wreckage things in the pentagon attack found, why take all surrounding video tapes away why ...??????,to many whys m8 to many for this not to be a cover up
You would need more then a country mile of det cord. We used almost a kilometre just to run a face blast. The WTC is a shyte site bigger then a 20 foot drift face.

Sorry dude, 'squibs' if used, would have been more numerous and therefore would have popped more windows. Plus, in a blast that big, there is a statistical failure rate. Therefore there would have been caps in the rubble. The rubble being in an unsecured area. Somebody would have found one. Firefighters being well trained, would have easily identified them. Unless they're all in on the conspiracy?

Other then that, the assertion that the pressure from the collapsing building blew out the windows, seems quite plausible to me.

why would not the force of it escape from the the top of the building as it fell
I say it did. Hence why there were body and material parts on other structures.

I've seen many faces blasted in Canada's north, there is dust, but not that much that would indicate that explosives were used to bring down the towers.

As for the Pentagon...case closed, video footage showing a plane flying into it. Released within days of the attack.
 

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Still refusing to get grip on reality I see, the need to find an alternate to the plain scientifically proven truth borders on the psychotic. Terrorists hijacked planes, crashed them into buildings and that caused the building to collapse. No conspiracies, no hidden agendas.
 

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You've got to be kidding...you are kidding right? 8O

With all due respect, CB

I am dead serious and I will add this "Keep your friends close, but keep your enemies closer!"

At least 300 people had the same opinion as we did on that day and for weeks after.

Want names? Want the towns?

I lost a niece in Tower Two because she had been sucked in by money which is the only belief that "they" have.

But since she had given up her Canadian Citizenship, she was in the wrong place at the wrong time. Her fault not mine.

When she gave up her C.C. she became a traitor to me.

So it's true, I do not lie.

And I feel just fine in my shoes and hope the war continues so that more of them die.

CB, open your eyes and realize how you are being had!

End of discussion.




 

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you kunt did you read the video log no here it is for you dumb fuk

Pentagon 9-11 Surveilence Camera Video of Impact. Does not seem to indicate a Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon. Doesn't show much of anything. Why won't they show us a 757 hitting the Pentagon? They have plenty of Surveillance Cameras surrounding the Pentagon. Why is this the only one made public? You decide.
no 757 it was b/s like your reasoning

911 pentagon video explanation - 3 of 3
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look m8 i posted all these yesterday including your last post do you think that any one here will say anything other then the site is a **** one like colpy try on to day
look at the evidence

Yesterday, 05:17 PM

INDEX
9/11 and Pentagon: Incident and event prior, during, and after, towers collapses, building surrounding, crash, photos, theories, airplanes, intelligence, analysis, Mossad, Osama, PNAC, etc.....:

9/11 Incident
Questions about 911, its just not adding up right
Who is the FBI Protecting?
Car Bomb Explodes Outside Pentagon: A 9-11 Diversion?
Widow: 9/11 passengers planned to resist
Did a plane really hit the pentagon or was it a missle?
Looking for 911 pentegon photo...
Was Flight 93 on 9/11 shot down?
Where's the evidence?!?!
The 9-11 Whitewash
Bush Senior Met With Bin Laden's Brother on 9/11
Mossad and 9/11
No Hijackers For 911
Forget what you know about 9/11
9/11 Photos, or Lack Thereof...
WTC building #7
9/11 research team
PROOF that the pentagon didn't get hit by a boeing 757
TA-HISTORY: German Trial Reveals Pre-911 Warning by Iranian Spy
Could 9/11 have been prevented?
Tracking the 19 Hijackers - At least 9 of them survived 9/11
TWA flight 800
9-11 Cover Up is Falling Apart
9/11 numerology
9/11 Chair: Attack Was Preventable
Did a missile hit the pentagon on 911?
Who Benefited from the 9/11 Attacks
911 WTC collapse
9/11 investigitation : "stranger than fiction"
govenment's envolvement with 9/11
Overlooked 9/11 conspiracy
9-11's Limited Hangouts
9/11 Transcripts and Police Reports
9/11 alot of conspiracies?
Pentagon surveillance cctv 2001/9/11 - Please Read
5th Estate special on 9-11
Planes of 911 Exceeded Their Software Limits
Missing wing (911 - pentagon)
Truth, Lies, and The Legend of 9/11
9-11: OPERATION PEARL
FBI: Moussaoui not involved
Where was Warren Buffet on 9-11 and What was he doing?
wtc7 collapse analysis
U.S. Government Chose Date of 9/11 Attacks.
WTC
WTC7 is the key to the governments involvement in 9-11
Ex German Parliment member speaks on 9/11
9/11 - The official story contradicts the laws of physics and the most basic knowledge of the behavior
9/11 Mastermind: Plan Involved 10 Planes
Sept._11's_Smoking_Gun:_The Many_Faces_of_Saeed_Sheikh
Germans lapping up 9/11 conspiracy theories
Well since 'they' knew about 9/11...
9/11 Controlled Demo? I dont think so
Many questions loom about Sept. 11, 2001
Demolition of WTC - pictures inside!
September 11th And The Bush Administration
Sept 11th...
9/11 Attack In Bible Codes?
9/11 Hijackers - The ones who got away!
Pentagon before 9/11
9/11 Conspiracy Site found
9-11 and cell phones
Bin laden died years before 9/11?
9-11 theory..the Russians
Report: Flight 77 Exceeded its Software Limits
The Real Truth about 9-11
odd photos from 911
Two 9-11 hijackers 'lived with FBI informant'
Disgusted FBI Agent Leaking Story Of Government Scandal Related To 9-11 Attacks
Pentagon cctv 9/11 : where are the missing frames?
Autopsy: No Arabs on Flight 77
Project for the New American Century.
Russian MP claims US carried out September 11 attacks
There is a hidden agenda 9/11
FBI Admits: No Evidence Links 'Hijackers' to 9-11
FBI Admits: No Evidence Links 'Hijackers' to 9-11
100% proof 9/11 was an implosion
Another 9/11 hijacker found alive (BBC)
you have to think the us is responsible for 9-11 if.....
Chinese Planners Took Credit for 9/11
9-11 Hijackers still very much alive!!!!!
Questions for Bush regarding 9-11
The Government Sponsored 9/11!!!
9-11 HIJACKERS FOUND ALIVE
The Jet Fighter Stand Down on 9/11 - THE 9/11, not the anniversary
9/11 Security Failure revisited: Transponders Off, people
9/11 Whitehouse Intelligence
Brown Rice Warning (!) 9/11
9-11...DID BUSH KNOW?
Bombs in the Building: World Trade Center 'Conspiracy Theory' is a Conspiracy Fact
The Secrets of September 11
BUSH-BENLADEN ASSOCIATES!
Hilton: 9-11 Hijackers funded by the US Government
Kerry knew about lax airport security prior to 9/11
NORAD, Our most beloved enemy
THE PROJECT FOR THE NEW AMERICAN CENTURY
9/11, was it Al-Qaeda?
Flight 77 Wreckage Pictures Inside Pentagon
911 facts even Alex Jones doesn't discuss...
A hole in the government's story about Alomari and Atta in Portland, ME.
9-11 Conspiracy Theorist Challenge
Terror Analysis Special Report: The Flight to 911
video of plane with something attached to it
9/11 Tape DESTROYED?
The Real Smoking Gun of 9/11
Complete 911 Timeline: Central Asian oil,Enron,Afghan pipelines
Welcome to Terrorland - Mohammad Atta and 9/11
9/11: A Boeing 757 Struck the Pentagon
 

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this is the America you live in cndbear take a look at your beautiful country and kunts like you are the ones dressed in black

Only in America do we have freedom yeah right
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=6Cu1a23IIFY


First of all, CDN Bear and I live in Canada, not the United States.

Secondly, CDN Bear is a Mohawk. Look it up. He doesn't need you to lecture him on injustice.

Thirdly........the video shows nothing of what was going on, who knows? Why are the police moving these people? The girl "shot in the back of the head" is laughable...........I stopped watching at that point

Fourthly, you live in a nation that was the home of George Orwell, yet London has tens of thousands of surveillance cameras, you've lost the right to keep and bear arms, as well as the right to free speech, you have some nasty anti-terror legislation, and you are America's biggest ally in Iraq. Look in the mirror.

Try, please, I beg you, to post something that has some faint connection with reality.
 
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