Why leaving Canada makes sense for Alberta, and U.S. would likely welcome a new state

MHz

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He should be in Ottawa, or Quebec working for SNC.
I don't have an issue with AB being the Province to call Ottawa and Ontario and Quebec and BC to some form of international court where their many, many crimes are made known to the Canadian public and they decide what should be Canada and what should not be. If AB went Provincial then all Provinces would go the same way and act like a mini-EU, only fewer wars and better efficiency.
I also think there should be a northern Canada and southern Canada where the south already has what they need and the north needs to start from scratch so the international community could help with that by doing in 10 years what Ottawa and the rest of the south have found impossible to do in the last 70 years, . . . and counting.
 

MHz

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When did you pick up on that fact, 2025?? You toads are unaware there is anything to even 'cry a river about', there is and with good reason, our generation are the biggest liars and thieves in the history of mankind.
 

Cliffy

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Alberta fails to diversify its boom and bust economy, blows its Heritage fund and it is all Canada's fault. Talk about whiny little bitches. Grow TF up.
 

petros

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It is diversified. I bet it has something to do with Rockefellers funding environmentalists to land lock Canadian oil.

They got you hook line and sphincter.

It was never about the environment.

“From the very beginning, the campaign strategy was to land-lock the tar sands so their crude could not reach the international market where it could fetch a high price per barrel,” boasts Michael Marx, the executive director of Corporate Ethics.
 

MHz

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blows its Heritage fund and it is all Canada's fault. .
I don't see anybody blaming anybody but Albertan Politicians for the golf courses that fund was raped for.

Every National Park needs and 18 hole course, private course that is.
I would have to go with Canada being to blame for Alberta getting the lowest royalty rates in the world though. A few bribes for the crooks in the east is better and cheaper for 'big oil' than lower gas prices at the pumps in AB.
 

pgs

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Alberta fails to diversify its boom and bust economy, blows its Heritage fund and it is all Canada's fault. Talk about whiny little bitches. Grow TF up.
No , forestry in Alberta , those oil wells aren’t situated on ranches, and their is certainly no high tech in Calgary . Tourism has all but died . Certainly the only industry in Alberta is oil and gas .
 

MHz

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It was never about the environment.

“From the very beginning, the campaign strategy was to land-lock the tar sands so their crude could not reach the international market where it could fetch a high price per barrel,” boasts Michael Marx, the executive director of Corporate Ethics.
That doesn't explain why our only customer is the US or why our only international 'friends' are the NATO members who are the most warlike on the whole globe.
The US isn't calling the shots so why pretend they are unless you are intent on keeping the (many) lies as much of a secret as possible. Why is there no independent R&D for the tarsands material in it's natural state?? The R&D that went into the place got what it wanted and in a volume that met it's demands of NATO. More production and sale on the open market would be treated as 'treason' as it removed an 'unfair advantage' used by the thugs of the world, the Rothschild capitalist system in it's entirety.
The 'clean air' movement is meant to curtail 3rd world countries from being able to develop themselves at wholesale prices with next to nothing as far as pollution. The same bankers want them to pay 10x that amount using bogus claims. If the world is fukked 'they' did it so send them the whole bill which would be $990T, cash plus taxes. They bailed on the guidelines put in place and the 'cleanup' left behind is worth a few $100B so don't expect bad habits to cure themselves.
 

MHz

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The most interesting part is the summation of yours that you left out. Perhaps one of those for each Province would help explain 'the numbers'. After you take away the cost of production and R&D that includes all the costs of running the town the workers live in you will start to see the financial picture. Once the 'expenses' are taken away the profits remain and the odds are quite good that Wall St keeps records about profit/loss cycles of many businesses and from that an estimate of how much goes to 'the owners', never to be seen again and never to be reinvested in the local community.
That also means the boom/bust cycles are decided in some foreign land rather than in Canada by Canadians. Treason has to take place before the taxpayers lose all their money in that fashion.
 

petros

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No , forestry in Alberta , those oil wells aren’t situated on ranches, and their is certainly no high tech in Calgary . Tourism has all but died . Certainly the only industry in Alberta is oil and gas .
Far more than a backwater podunk like Cifff knows.
 

Dixie Cup

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If Trump loses the 2020 election, I am positive that anyone who even considered Alberta separating will quickly change their minds after they see what will happen in the U.S. If the Dems gets their way, the U.S. will be toast and I would not even want to think about ceding to them. If Albertans think that the $20,000 or $40,000 it costs us each every year is bad, wait for it - under the Dems it'll be even higher.