Why are many Christians so intolerant of other religions and spiritual paths?

Cliffy

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I've heard a lot of excuses but have yet to hear any reasons! We are richer than they are just doesn't "fly".
How about invading their countries, interfering in their internal affairs, stealing their resources, supporting brutal dictatorships, Pitting one side against the other and supplying both with arms for fun and profit, laying waste their country's infrastructure, demonizing them so we can kill them without a guilty conscience, murdering thousands of women, children and the elderly and calling it collateral damage.... etc.
 

JLM

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How about invading their countries, interfering in their internal affairs, stealing their resources, supporting brutal dictatorships, Pitting one side against the other and supplying both with arms for fun and profit, laying waste their country's infrastructure, demonizing them so we can kill them without a guilty conscience, murdering thousands of women, children and the elderly and calling it collateral damage.... etc.


How many times did they invade the U.S. first? You forgot Pearl Harbour, or 9/11 or the U.S.S. Cole? Which resources did we steal? I thought the U.S. (and Canada) opposed brutal dictatorships more than they supported them. What were the sanctions we imposed all about? They done us more harm over the years than we've done them.
 

gerryh

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How many times did they invade the U.S. first? You forgot Pearl Harbour, or 9/11 or the U.S.S. Cole? Which resources did we steal? I thought the U.S. (and Canada) opposed brutal dictatorships more than they supported them. What were the sanctions we imposed all about? They done us more harm over the years than we've done them.


Pearl Harbor? What the hell do Islamic suicide bombers have to do with Pearl Harbor?
 

Walter

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When naming the most tolerant societies on this planet it's always the Christians ones that are in the top ranks so the whole premise of the OP is based on bull turds.
 

L Gilbert

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Religion breeds intolerance of other religions and the non religious. The non religious reciprocate. It is an endless cycle that needs to be broken. Even devout atheists need to learn tolerance and acceptance. The alternative is dysfunction and/or war.
SOME religions are intolerant of the others. Try to be accurate and use a little less of the broad brush.
 

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When naming the most tolerant societies on this planet it's always the Christians ones that are in the top ranks so the whole premise of the OP is based on bull turds.


It wouldn't be the first time that has happened, Walter! Actually I don't trust any of the bastards. It's not the true religious ones making all the noise, mostly just ones thinking they have to put on a good show to get by the Pearly gates! -:)
 

L Gilbert

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Once we all learn to tolerate one another like we do bloated stomachs, the world will be a much better place. Then we can start working beyond tolerance.
Buddhist Studies: Tolerance
Like anything else, we have to use a little judgement when using tolerance instead of tossing it around indiscriminately.

Really? I have met lots of intolerant and ignorant atheists.
Naturally, gerry. We all know that no-one can match you for tolerance and knowledge, so of course you'd see others as you describe them.

It's not the Muslims, or Jews, or any other religious group that has a problem with Merry Christmas. It's the fricking atheists that have the problem.
Speaking of overly broad brushes.
 

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It's not the Muslims, or Jews, or any other religious group that has a problem with Merry Christmas. It's the fricking atheists that have the problem.
Perhaps only when they meet Christians with massive chips on their shoulders.

How many times did they invade the U.S. first? You forgot Pearl Harbour, or 9/11 or the U.S.S. Cole? Which resources did we steal? I thought the U.S. (and Canada) opposed brutal dictatorships more than they supported them. What were the sanctions we imposed all about? They done us more harm over the years than we've done them.
Ever heard of Pinochet, Shah Mohammed Reza Pahlevi, etc.? All of whom invaded the USA first? Want a list? See here: friendly dictators So how many of those invaded the USA?
 

JLM

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Which ones are the "true religions"?


I was referring to the individuals within the religion.

Perhaps only when they meet Christians with massive chips on their shoulders.

Ever heard of Pinochet, Shah Mohammed Reza Pahlevi, etc.? All of whom invaded the USA first? Want a list? See here: friendly dictators So how many of those invaded the USA?


Maybe I've been under a false impression all these years. On that list I would have agreed with Ian Smith and Botha, possibly. I wouldn't classify Idi Amin as being Mr. Congeniality.

Perhaps only when they meet Christians with massive chips on their shoulders.

Ever heard of Pinochet, Shah Mohammed Reza Pahlevi, etc.? All of whom invaded the USA first? Want a list? See here: friendly dictators So how many of those invaded the USA?


I just did a little quick reading on Augusto Pinochet of Chile. Not sure how he reached the age of 91 without being assassinated! The term "friendly" didn't cross my mind!
 

Blackleaf

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Good thing the Patriarch Of Constantinople doesn't think like you.....
Was This the First Time In History That the Bishop of Constantinople Attended the Installation of the Bishop of Rome? UPDATED
And your so full of hate you don't even realise that all the Christian denominations have been getting together since 1962.... Second Vatican Council (Roman Catholic history [1962-65]) -- Encyclopedia Britannica


Only the different factions of islam still fight with each other.......So you see you have more in common with islam than Christianity....
I don't give a damn what the Patriarch of Constantinople thinks.

I'm a Protestant. The whole point of Protestantism is to be protestant against Catholicism.

Henry's subsequent break with Catholicism was not theological but penile.
Henry breaking England from the vice-like and corrupt grip of Rome came about because the Pope refused to grant Henry a divorce from Catherine of Aragon.

Therefore the vast majority of the English people do not fall under Catholicism's nefarious sway and its nefarious teachings, like the one which states that it's a sin to wear condoms, thereby helping to spread aids around the world.

Henry VIII pulling England free from the corrupt Catholic Church was a masterstroke.
 

El Barto

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On one level it's really pretty simple, Cliffy, and it's not just religion that makes this error. For people who are absolutely certain they're right, with no possibility of being wrong, anyone who disagrees with them must therefore be absolutely wrong. And fairly often that turns into being considered expendable. It also seems worth noting here that history suggests such absolute belief systems become tolerant only when they've lost the power to persecute. Consider the mediaeval Catholic church, for instance, compared to how it behaves today. It remains a bit of a mystery why so many people fall into that absolutist mind set.
I very much agree with what you said here , but would like to note also , same can be said about skeptics

Be it religion , be it politics be it what ever you choose to fill in the blanks it is only a shield of twisted reasoning to attack others with.
Shouldn't look as much from what camp they are from but more the individual himself. They do more harm to their own cause.
 

Blackleaf

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There is not one shred of evidence that your god exists

There is plenty of evidence that God exists, but none whatsoever that he DOESN'T exist.

And isn't a tad hypocritical of you to bang on about "intolerant Christians" whilst you yourself show such little tolerance towards Christians and Christianity? Who are you to tell me that God doesn't exist? You're just some little anonymous dweeb on a discussion forum.

Typical bloody atheists. Preaching "tolerance" whilst showing less of it than those they preach tolerance to.

So you are a heathen!

That belief, written in a document apprived by the evil former Nazi Pope Bendict XVI in 2007, which stated that other, non-Catholic, Christian communities are either defective or not true churches and Catholicism provides the only true path to salvation, shows just how intolerant the Papist Church is.

The statement brought swift criticism from Protestant leaders. "It makes us question whether we are indeed praying together for Christian unity," said the World Alliance of Reformed Churches, a fellowship of 75 million Protestants in more than 100 countries.

"It makes us question the seriousness with which the Roman Catholic Church takes its dialogues with the reformed family and other families of the church," the group said in a letter charging that the document took ecumenical dialogue back to the era before the Second Vatican Council.



I have worked with numerous Muslims for the past 14 years, had many a discussion on religion. They profess tolerance and respect for all, regardless of Religion.












 
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cj44

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Cliffy - I think those who present Christianity within a reward/punishment perspective miss much. Sounds like those born againers of which you speak were indeed trying to scare you. Methinks God should want us to worship and believe freely.

Goober - You asked, “Why do Christians have to prove they are tolerant yet others are exempted.?” Mostly because Christianity is a hard message to hear. We are sinners and are going to hell. That’s why those born againers gave Cliffy such a time about going to hell. The message of Christianity to the individual initially is condemning.

No One Is Righteous
9*What shall we conclude then? Do we have any advantage? Not at all! For we have already made the charge that Jews and Gentiles alike are all under the power of sin. 10*As it is written:
“There is no one righteous, not even one;
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****there is no one who understands;
****there is no one who seeks God.
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All have turned away,
****they have together become worthless;
there is no one who does good,
****not even one.

Before one sees a need for Christ, one must become aware of that they are not righteous before God. The message necessitates a conversation on this topic of sinfulness. It is easy to see why people would find this message intolerant, judgmental and condemning. They then conclude that Christians are intolerant.

I think I promised an ill conceived analogy. Don’t remember the topic - well here’s one for you in regards to the Christian message and why Christians are compelled to share it.

Let’s say the following happens. All senses confirm that this actually happens.

One day before dawn you awake to an alien ship landing in your back yard. A creature approaches you and tells you a number of things. Doesn’t matter what this creature tells you. What is important is that he tells you things. He then flys off. Would you not then be compelled to tell everyone you know? Would you not have written down the things he said to ensure you do not forget? Methinks you would. That is sort of like Christianity. Jesus (GOD) came to live among mankind. He taught many wonderful things, people wrote them down and shared them with everyone they knew. Should we not be interested in what God has said?

I told you it would be an ill conceived analogy....indeed a tortured analogy.

I believe that all creatures big and small are the Creator's children. I feel no differently when I hear of a deer killed by a car than I do when I hear of a human killed by a car (or any other instrument of destruction). When I see a clearcut forest, I get a physical pain in the pit of my stomach. I do not feel any differently about the death or wonton slaughter of any creature: wolf, bear or buffalo culls or wars on humans.

Human have been heading downhill ever since the evolution of agriculture, It was agriculture that spawned the first civilizations and religions. It spawned an attitude of superiority, not only of nature but of those humans who were "not civilized" and made both targets for exploitation and annihilation. The Pope declared in the 1480' that any group of humanoids not mentioned in the bible could not possibly be human so it was perfectly OK to kill, enslave and take their lands in the name of god. They were called papal bulls and are still in effect today. It is that attitude which allowed Europeans to colonize the world and to slaughter hundreds of millions of aboriginal people the world over.

It is this same attitude that motivates humans to think they have the right to "manage" nature to our liking, cutting down vast swaths of forest, extinct thousands of species of fish and wildlife. The human ego knows no bounds in its race toward the eradication of other species, not realizing that we are only a part of a greater whole and that the process will eventually lead to our own extinction. We are the only species that is hell bent on destroying the world's life support system, the biosphere. That is why I have no more sympathy for human suffering than I do for the butterfly that ends up squashed on the grill of my car. I see all life as having an equal right to life.
So, Cliffy. Let's say you, me & a cricket were trapped in a burning building. You manage to free yourself and are then only able to rescue just me or the cricket. Which one do you choose. Nevermind....I don't think I want to know your answer.