Why are many Christians so intolerant of other religions and spiritual paths?
- Thread starter Cliffy
- Start date
So if heaven is the reward for accepting Jesus as you personal saviour, what, in you opinion, happens to those who don't? Do you believe in hell? Who is sent there? Just about every born againer I have met has condemned me to hell for not believing as they do.
Says the man who complains that a challenge to his beliefs is Christian bashing and responds with name calling and personal abuse. You haven't the slightest comprehension of anything I've ever said on this topic.
In principle, certainly not, assuming my understanding of those two words matches yours.
No, there's a difference between challenging my beliefs, and doing what you do. Obviously, you are as dense as those you accuse. When we break it right down, your belief is that you are right and everyone and anyone that believes in God is wrong. Period. End of discussion.That has been your argument from day one.
That`s your perception. I tolerate thing I dislike such as mosquitos, but I don`t love them. I tolerate certain quirks the wifey has, but I don`t love them. I love wifey in spite of some of her quirks.
I tolerate religions because some people find value in them.
I hate Catholics. Their religion isn't much better than Islam, so it ranks very low in the list of religions which deserve tolerance and respect.
Respect is a whole different ball of wax from tolerance. IMO, religions deserve tolerance but not respect.
Religions are the bureaucracies between humans and their gods. (Can't remember who said that, but I agree).
Religions are the bureaucracies between humans and their gods. (Can't remember who said that, but I agree).
He can't be Church of England because one cannot slip a faery's fart between Catholics and Anglicans.
“Sometimes the Bible in the hand of one man is worse than a whisky bottle in the hand of (another)... There are just some kind of men who - who're so busy worrying about the next world they've never learned to live in this one, and you can look down the street and see the results.”
Harper Lee, To Kill a Mockingbird
Harper Lee, To Kill a Mockingbird
Cliffy - Here we can have a most excellent dialogue. Though I must postpone for now as I have to be careful not to incinerate the roast I have in the oven. I'm known for my cooking - but in a bad way. Likely later in the day time shall allow for this supreme discussion. I look most forward to it.
This I can explain later using one of my ill-conceived analogies. At current, I must mind the roast.
Cliffy, not knowing the thought behind this wildebeest comment, it seems rather inappropriate to respond in the way you have. Motar has just told us of a horrific event & I think the response should be one of compassion.
Motar, May God bless you in your work.
Clearly, you should work for a greeting card company.
Motar, May God Bless you in your work and those that are blessed to be in your care.
Last edited:
I believe that all creatures big and small are the Creator's children. I feel no differently when I hear of a deer killed by a car than I do when I hear of a human killed by a car (or any other instrument of destruction). When I see a clearcut forest, I get a physical pain in the pit of my stomach. I do not feel any differently about the death or wonton slaughter of any creature: wolf, bear or buffalo culls or wars on humans.
Human have been heading downhill ever since the evolution of agriculture, It was agriculture that spawned the first civilizations and religions. It spawned an attitude of superiority, not only of nature but of those humans who were "not civilized" and made both targets for exploitation and annihilation. The Pope declared in the 1480' that any group of humanoids not mentioned in the bible could not possibly be human so it was perfectly OK to kill, enslave and take their lands in the name of god. They were called papal bulls and are still in effect today. It is that attitude which allowed Europeans to colonize the world and to slaughter hundreds of millions of aboriginal people the world over.
It is this same attitude that motivates humans to think they have the right to "manage" nature to our liking, cutting down vast swaths of forest, extinct thousands of species of fish and wildlife. The human ego knows no bounds in its race toward the eradication of other species, not realizing that we are only a part of a greater whole and that the process will eventually lead to our own extinction. We are the only species that is hell bent on destroying the world's life support system, the biosphere. That is why I have no more sympathy for human suffering than I do for the butterfly that ends up squashed on the grill of my car. I see all life as having an equal right to life.
I appreciate deeply your acknowledgement of not only the veracity of my statement but the care with which I framed it.
Originally, I was going to drone on about apostolic succession, and why The Catholic Church views the Orthodox and conservative Anglicans as members of Church, but dismisses the fundamentalists' claim in that regard. In fact, male Anglican priests. married or single, can slip over to Catholicism without fuss, muss, or trial by ordeal to minister to Catholic flocks. And, note, the sacraments of the Orthodox are fully recognised.
Motar and cj44, repent!
Brother Goobs, the secular mind acknowledges its humanity. Repetition of this maxim will gain you a partial indulgence of one week.
Religion breeds intolerance of other religions and the non religious. The non religious reciprocate. It is an endless cycle that needs to be broken. Even devout atheists need to learn tolerance and acceptance. The alternative is dysfunction and/or war.