Who will be forgiven: Jews, Christians or Muslims?

[selfsame]

FIRST:

[Some Jewish men and some Muslim men boasted to each other;

the Jews said: "We are the chosen people of God, and God will forgive us our sins whatever sins we may commit."

While the Muslims said: "No, but it is we to whom God will forgive our sins, because we have believed in God and His messenger Mohammed."

Therefore, this aya was revealed:]

Quran 4: 123. It is not according to your vain desires [Muslims], nor the vain desires of the people of the Bible [: Jews and Christians];

but anyone who does evil shall be punished accordingly, and shall not find for himself apart from God any patron or helper.

More explanation according to the interpreter of the Quran and the Bible, Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly:

http://quran-ayat.com/pret/4.htm#a4_123
<quran-ayat.com/pret/4.htm#a4_123>

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SECOND:

So this wrong idea is prevalent among followers of all these religions: that they are preferred by God ..

So merely for being Jews: supposed to be the Chosen People of God, so they take the bribe and transgress on other people .. steal, gamble, take the usury and commit the abominations and they think that God will forgive them .. because they are preferred to others and God loves them ..etc.

Christians think Jesus loves them (most of them think Jesus is God Himself or Jesus is His son) and they love Jesus and so Jesus loves them .. and he came to the earth so as to redeem them ..etc; then when they commit the crimes and the flagrant sins contradicting even the first commandment .. then Jesus redeems them and they will go to heaven following their death .. then they go to the clergy and confess their sins and the clergy tells them: Go you have been forgiven!

Muslims also have acquired this wrong misconception: Mohammed will intercede for them with his great intercession that is not given to any prophet .. and so they will go to Paradise; some sects think that Ali will intercede for them: and he tells Hell: this one is for me, and that one is for you!

So all this is wrong: the one who commits the evil and sins .. will be requited of it.

 

[DaSleeper]

Ooh .....why don't you shove your quran-ayat.com where the sun don't shine

 

[Johnnny]

FIRST:

[Some Jewish men and some Muslim men boasted to each other;

the Jews said: "We are the chosen people of God, and God will forgive us our sins whatever sins we may commit."

While the Muslims said: "No, but it is we to whom God will forgive our sins, because we have believed in God and His messenger Mohammed."

Therefore, this aya was revealed:]

Quran 4: 123. It is not according to your vain desires [Muslims], nor the vain desires of the people of the Bible [: Jews and Christians];

but anyone who does evil shall be punished accordingly, and shall not find for himself apart from God any patron or helper.

More explanation according to the interpreter of the Quran and the Bible, Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly:

http://quran-ayat.com/pret/4.htm#a4_123
<quran-ayat.com/pret/4.htm#a4_123>

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SECOND:

So this wrong idea is prevalent among followers of all these religions: that they are preferred by God ..

So merely for being Jews: supposed to be the Chosen People of God, so they take the bribe and transgress on other people .. steal, gamble, take the usury and commit the abominations and they think that God will forgive them .. because they are preferred to others and God loves them ..etc.

Christians think Jesus loves them (most of them think Jesus is God Himself or Jesus is His son) and they love Jesus and so Jesus loves them .. and he came to the earth so as to redeem them ..etc; then when they commit the crimes and the flagrant sins contradicting even the first commandment .. then Jesus redeems them and they will go to heaven following their death .. then they go to the clergy and confess their sins and the clergy tells them: Go you have been forgiven!

Muslims also have acquired this wrong misconception: Mohammed will intercede for them with his great intercession that is not given to any prophet .. and so they will go to Paradise; some sects think that Ali will intercede for them: and he tells Hell: this one is for me, and that one is for you!

So all this is wrong: the one who commits the evil and sins .. will be requited of it.

Look in the mirror and give yourself a slap.

 

[Ludlow]

Stupid question.

 

[darkbeaver]

FIRST:

[Some Jewish men and some Muslim men boasted to each other;

the Jews said: "We are the chosen people of God, and God will forgive us our sins whatever sins we may commit."

While the Muslims said: "No, but it is we to whom God will forgive our sins, because we have believed in God and His messenger Mohammed."

Therefore, this aya was revealed:]

Quran 4: 123. It is not according to your vain desires [Muslims], nor the vain desires of the people of the Bible [: Jews and Christians];

but anyone who does evil shall be punished accordingly, and shall not find for himself apart from God any patron or helper.

More explanation according to the interpreter of the Quran and the Bible, Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly:

http://quran-ayat.com/pret/4.htm#a4_123
<quran-ayat.com/pret/4.htm#a4_123>

======================================================

SECOND:

So this wrong idea is prevalent among followers of all these religions: that they are preferred by God ..

So merely for being Jews: supposed to be the Chosen People of God, so they take the bribe and transgress on other people .. steal, gamble, take the usury and commit the abominations and they think that God will forgive them .. because they are preferred to others and God loves them ..etc.

Christians think Jesus loves them (most of them think Jesus is God Himself or Jesus is His son) and they love Jesus and so Jesus loves them .. and he came to the earth so as to redeem them ..etc; then when they commit the crimes and the flagrant sins contradicting even the first commandment .. then Jesus redeems them and they will go to heaven following their death .. then they go to the clergy and confess their sins and the clergy tells them: Go you have been forgiven!

Muslims also have acquired this wrong misconception: Mohammed will intercede for them with his great intercession that is not given to any prophet .. and so they will go to Paradise; some sects think that Ali will intercede for them: and he tells Hell: this one is for me, and that one is for you!

So all this is wrong: the one who commits the evil and sins .. will be requited of it.

Only the good will be forgiven thier mistakes while enclosed in flesh and gain the next realm at last. All the rest will repeat thier sojourn in the valley of the shadow of death again and again as many times as necessary. No soul is wasted, no spark extinquished. Glutching the various fictional Holy books close to your heart only fools the unrefined the gods know you better.

 

[selfsame]

THIRD:

Jews will not be forgiven their sins unless they convert and believe in Jesus and Mohammed and in the Gospel revealed to Jesus and the Quran revealed to Mohammed.

Christians will not be forgiven unless they refrain from their Trinity and the idea that Jesus is the son of God or that he is God Himself and they should believe in Mohammed and the Quran revealed to him.

Muslims will not be forgiven unless they leave their enthusiasm about Mohammed, Ali and others.

So all of them will be requited for their sins, and even Muslims will not be forgiven if they insist on their sins and if they have the enthusiasm about the prophet, his companions and his family members.

www.quran-ayat.com
quran-ayat.com

 

[taxslave]

WHo is supposed to do the forgiving and why?

 

[selfsame]

WHo is supposed to do the forgiving and why?

God is the only One Who forgives the sins; so He said: the man who associates others with God will not be forgiven his sins .. in order that (when he is forgiven) will be admitted into Paradise in heaven.

I have said the truth without hypocrisy or sucking.

I am now obliged to leave you to your mockery, ignorance and stubbornness.
The end of life of many of you may be so imminent, and they don't know.

 

[taxslave]

God is the only One Who forgives the sins; so He said: the man who associates others with God will not be forgiven his sins .. in order that (when he is forgiven) will be admitted into Paradise in heaven.

I have said the truth without hypocrisy or sucking.

I am now obliged to leave you to your mockery, ignorance and stubbornness.
The end of life of many of you may be so imminent, and they don't know.

Gawd is a myth.

 

[Murphy]

If there is anyone on this board that is ignorant, it is you, Nassir. The end of your life will be painful, with no family around you. God denied you a family because of your wickedness. No friends. And no god. There will be no ascendance into heaven. The devil waits for you.

God would not accept a Muslim. You break all the rules that god expects humans to follow. You are violent. You lie. You abuse women and children. You destroy people and their possessions. You ruin families. In short, you are everything that god does not want.

You cannot deny the vileness of Muslims, but you will anyway. You refuse to accept the truth that happens all around you. You refuse to accept that Muslims are the foulest creatures on the earth. Even lions and tigers only kill to eat. You kill for the joy of it.

You even kill your own. These aren't 'wicked Zionists'. These are Muslims killing each other. But that makes you happy. No doubt you will try to change the subject, or call these stories lies. God hears your denials and will punish you.

80 Muslims Dead as Ramadan Murder Spree Continues

Muslim group ISIS continues it’s war on other Muslims killing 80 today in Afghanistan during Ramadan.

For many Muslims Ramadan is a period of charity and introspection, but for others this year it has proven to be deadly.

ISIS claims to be an Islamic group but pays no attention to the meaning of Ramadan and continues to murder Muslims and Non-Muslims across the world.

80 people have been killed and over 350 injured in a powerful car bomb blast that ripped through a diplomatic district in Afghanistan’s capital, Kabul, an Afghan health official has said, as cited by Reuters. Despite the high death toll among local residents, the foreign embassies have not reported any victims. The Indian embassy has said its staff is safe, though the building was damaged in the blast. Two employees of the Japanese embassy were mildly injured, suffering cuts.

80 Muslims Dead as Ramadan Murder Spree Continues - Live Trading News

But you keep hoping that the lies written in your book are true. The ignorant and stupid must believe in something.

 

[Curious Cdn]

The Jews did it. Ask the Saudis.





.. or MHz .....

 

[Cliffy]

None of the above. They are all idolaters: worshiping people and books. Your god will smite you all for being self righteous dickheads.

 

[Dexter Sinister]

Your god will smite you all for being self righteous dickheads.

I live for the day...

 

[Jinentonix]

Ooh .....why don't you shove your quran-ayat.com where the sun don't shine

Probably because his head is taking up all the space.

And lo' God looked down upon the masses he created and spake thusly, "What the f*ck is wrong with you people? Quit pointing to books and claiming I'm responsible for what's in them. And quit killing people in my name. Why the hell would I ask you to go around killing my creations? I don't need you puny humans to do that for me, I'm God, dammit."

And the masses lamented, "But God, Allah, Jehovah, we do so because they do not believe in you, or do not worship you in the same fashion as we do."
And God mumbled unto himself, "Oh for Christ sake, where's the damn reset button? I give these people sense, reasoning and intellect and they're still dumber than dirt."

You have to admit though, that Abrahamic god sure is one fickle dude. First the Israelites are his chosen people. Then he tells everyone that the only way to heaven is to be a Christian. Then he tells Muslims to follow the path of an alcoholic pedophile to reach the kingdom of heaven.

 

[selfsame]

Gawd is a myth.

I asked some of my friends: if these Zionists are atheists, Satanists, homosexualists, and deniers of all the prophets ... what has brought them to Palestine then?
He said: God has brought them, [so as to terminate them!]

http://quran-ayat.com/conflicts/english3.htm#A_Warning_to_Zionists_of_Perishing_
quran-ayat.com/conflicts/english3.htm#A_Warning_to_Zionists_of_Perishing_

And quit killing people in my name...

What a white dove of peace you are! :laughing6:

80 Muslims Dead as Ramadan Murder

You, devil, why do you pretend sad? Don't you want to annihilate all Muslims?

 

[Corduroy]

They will all be reborn according to their karma.

 

[selfsame]

They are all idolaters: worshiping people and books.

Then why always do you quote many words of many writers? Devil!

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FOURTH:

Therefore, everyone is responsible about his work: if he sins and disobeys God, he will be punished whether he is a Jew, Christian, Muslim or others.

And moreover, even Muslims: if they are enthusiastic about the religious figures, they will be punished.

I asked the interpreter: What's then the implication of the forgiveness?

The interpreter said: If the sinner is a monotheist (and he believes in all the prophets and all the heavenly books), God may accept to look to him with mercy and see about his case.

While if the sinner is an associater or idolater (and he denies any of the prophets and the heavenly books) .. no forgiveness for him.

 

[Cliffy]

Then why always do you quote many words of many writers? Devil!

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FOURTH:

Therefore, everyone is responsible about his work: if he sins and disobeys God, he will be punished whether he is a Jew, Christian, Muslim or others.

And moreover, even Muslims: if they are enthusiastic about the religious figures, they will be punished.

If you are only a good person because you fear punishment, you are not a good person in your soul. You have a retched soul. God does not care what you think. It cares how you treat people, how you care about others. Are you kind because you want a reward? Then you are the evil person because kindness should be freely given without expectation. Love is unconditional. Do you even understand what that means? I doubt it. You take too much delight in the possible suffering of others that do not accept your sick interpretation of your ancient book. You are no different than fundamental Christians or Jews and will be judged accordingly.
BTW: you are guilty of enthusiasm of a book, a bunch of ink on paper, which is idolatry.

 

[selfsame]

FIFTH:

Quran 3: 188, which means:
[Then God – be glorified – started to dispraise the Jewish priests who took the money, were glad with it and were silent about their people worshipping of the idols and stones:]

{188. Think not that those [Jewish priests] who rejoice in what [alterations and changes] they did [in the statements of their religion], and desire to be praised [and respected, undeservedly, in the market-places and other places] for what they have not done [but merely that they are priests];

think not they will escape the doom [on Doomsday; because they did not bid their people to worship God alone and did not forbid the association with God] and [moreover] there will be for them a painful chastisement [on Doomsday.]}

More explanation by the interpreter of the Quran and the Bible: Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly:
http://quran-ayat.com/pret/3.htm#a3_188
<quran-ayat.com/pret/3.htm#a3_188>

I live for the day...

This aya concerns you [in God's consultation]:

Quran 52: 31, which means:
{Say [O Mohammed, to them]: "Await then [my death]; for, together with you, I too am awaiting [God's help against you. b]"}
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31 b And you will know which of us will overcome and defeat his opponent.

http://quran-ayat.com/pret/52.htm#a52_31
quran-ayat.com/pret/52.htm#a52_31

See also the next aya after this one.