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AnnaG

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Are they really biases and prejudices if it's boiled down to preferences?
I think so. I care about some things more than others. It indicates the same thing to me. I like pastel pinks, tans, and blues in my clothes instead of greens and yellows. I am biased against wearing greens and yellows.
From Merriam-Webster:
Bias;
3 a : bent, tendency b : an inclination of temperament or outlook; especially : a personal and sometimes unreasoned judgment : prejudice c : an instance of such prejudice d (1) : deviation of the expected value of a statistical estimate from the quantity it estimates (2) : systematic error introduced into sampling or testing by selecting or encouraging one outcome or answer over others

Prejudice;
2 a (1) : preconceived judgment or opinion (2) : an adverse opinion or leaning formed without just grounds or before sufficient knowledge b : an instance of such judgment or opinion c : an irrational attitude of hostility directed against an individual, a group, a race, or their supposed characteristicssynonyms see predilection

Both just mean preference, predilection, or leaning.
 

JLM

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I think you're right Cliffy. As part of the safe social environment, it's a comfortable spiritual environment too.

I'm a self-confessed "part time Christian" (don't go to church very often and pick and choose parts of Christianity to follow), but I attended a Christmas eve church service this year with some acquaintances and I must say, it was quite a nice experience. I love the traditional Christmas carols but the best part was seeing people get together and share a feeling of peace and goodwill toward each other.

I don't see anything wrong with that and in fact, I see quite a bit of good in it. Everyone was "getting along" and being nice to each other and I think we could use more of that in the world.

There is nothing wrong with it, CB. But hey, I don't know if you notice it, but I've found that the more "religious" people are the nastier and more obnoxious they like the one guy we had on here who was threatening hellfire and brimstone to those of us who questioned the authenticity of the Bible. Of course that just nullifies any credibility (with me anyway) that they ever had. Maybe that is why church membership has been decimated over the years, the biggest proponents are p*ssing people off. :lol::lol::lol:
 

countryboy

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There is nothing wrong with it, CB. But hey, I don't know if you notice it, but I've found that the more "religious" people are the nastier and more obnoxious they like the one guy we had on here who was threatening hellfire and brimstone to those of us who questioned the authenticity of the Bible. Of course that just nullifies any credibility (with me anyway) that they ever had. Maybe that is why church membership has been decimated over the years, the biggest proponents are p*ssing people off. :lol::lol::lol:

Oh yeah, I agree completely. The ones that get carried away are a pain in the biblical donkey potion of one's anatomy, and they are out there. I just ignore them as I figure if they have to work that hard at threatening somebody over their choice of religion, they don't deserve any of my time. I have told a few of them to p*ss off over the years, but only when they won't remove their noses from my business when asked (nicely) to do so. I don't mind a reasonable discussion on the subject, but I don't appreciate being "talked at."
 

Spade

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T Of course that just nullifies any credibility (with me anyway) that they ever had. Maybe that is why church membership has been decimated over the years, the biggest proponents are p*ssing people off. :lol::lol::lol:

With anyone with a critical mind!
 

Niflmir

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There is nothing wrong with it, CB. But hey, I don't know if you notice it, but I've found that the more "religious" people are the nastier and more obnoxious they like the one guy we had on here who was threatening hellfire and brimstone to those of us who questioned the authenticity of the Bible. Of course that just nullifies any credibility (with me anyway) that they ever had. Maybe that is why church membership has been decimated over the years, the biggest proponents are p*ssing people off. :lol::lol::lol:

I hear that.

I've been an atheist for quite some time but was staying at my relatives's place one Christmas. Well, they decided we should go to Christmas mass, so I went because I don't like arguing with my hosts. Well the sermon began with, "We all deserve to go to hell..." What a fantastic holiday sentiment. The priest repeated it a few times over the next 20 minutes, too. I decided to never again attend a mass. I asked my relatives about it, they all said they don't pay attention during the sermon. Go figure.
 

Dexter Sinister

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I hear that.
Yeah, me too. The last mass I was at was a funeral service for a niece, last spring. I went out of respect for her family, that was how they wanted to do things, but the service I found deeply offensive. There were at least five moments during it in which we were all invited to think about what miserable sinners we all are, and two of them required us to say out loud in unison, "I am not worthy," the context as I perceived it being that we're all total sh!ts but gawd in his infinite mercy loves and accepts us anyway as long as we're prepared to kiss his butt. I kept my lips firmly closed, I will not say such a thing, not to myself in the privacy of my own thoughts, and not out loud as part of a congregation. I think that's a horrible message to give to anyone, especially impressionable children, and I reject it completely.
 

JLM

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Yeah, me too. The last mass I was at was a funeral service for a niece, last spring. I went out of respect for her family, that was how they wanted to do things, but the service I found deeply offensive. There were at least five moments during it in which we were all invited to think about what miserable sinners we all are, and two of them required us to say out loud in unison, "I am not worthy," the context as I perceived it being that we're all total sh!ts but gawd in his infinite mercy loves and accepts us anyway as long as we're prepared to kiss his butt. I kept my lips firmly closed, I will not say such a thing, not to myself in the privacy of my own thoughts, and not out loud as part of a congregation. I think that's a horrible message to give to anyone, especially impressionable children, and I reject it completely.

Me neither and I'd go one step further, I'd tell him to shove it where the sun don't shine in front of his whole congregation.
 

Cliffy

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Me neither and I'd go one step further, I'd tell him to shove it where the sun don't shine in front of his whole congregation.
Ministers tend to project their own guilty feelings on the congregation. The least I would have said is "speak for yourself!" Not only was he laying a guilt trip on everybody but to me it is inappropriate to desecrate the memory of the departed by denigrate those in attendance.
 

JLM

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Ministers tend to project their own guilty feelings on the congregation. The least I would have said is "speak for yourself!" Not only was he laying a guilt trip on everybody but to me it is inappropriate to desecrate the memory of the departed by denigrate those in attendance.

And rude to boot, but ministers aren't known for their "bedside manner".
 

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Yeah, me too. The last mass I was at was a funeral service for a niece, last spring. I went out of respect for her family, that was how they wanted to do things, but the service I found deeply offensive. There were at least five moments during it in which we were all invited to think about what miserable sinners we all are, and two of them required us to say out loud in unison, "I am not worthy," the context as I perceived it being that we're all total sh!ts but gawd in his infinite mercy loves and accepts us anyway as long as we're prepared to kiss his butt. I kept my lips firmly closed, I will not say such a thing, not to myself in the privacy of my own thoughts, and not out loud as part of a congregation. I think that's a horrible message to give to anyone, especially impressionable children, and I reject it completely.

That is quite disgusting, the priest had a good turnout, no thanks to him, it was
for a much more important reason, in respect to the passing of a friend/family,
and he took advantage of that occasion to inflict his brand of nonsense on people
who did not arrive there feeling very good, and I'm positive they left feeling worse.
 

L Gilbert

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I hear that.

I've been an atheist for quite some time but was staying at my relatives's place one Christmas. Well, they decided we should go to Christmas mass, so I went because I don't like arguing with my hosts. Well the sermon began with, "We all deserve to go to hell..." What a fantastic holiday sentiment. The priest repeated it a few times over the next 20 minutes, too. I decided to never again attend a mass. I asked my relatives about it, they all said they don't pay attention during the sermon. Go figure.
So it was an outing to go check out the fashions people were wearing and waste gasoline?
 

L Gilbert

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I hear that.

I've been an atheist for quite some time but was staying at my relatives's place one Christmas. Well, they decided we should go to Christmas mass, so I went because I don't like arguing with my hosts. Well the sermon began with, "We all deserve to go to hell..." What a fantastic holiday sentiment. The priest repeated it a few times over the next 20 minutes, too. I decided to never again attend a mass. I asked my relatives about it, they all said they don't pay attention during the sermon. Go figure.
Tactful. :roll:
 

L Gilbert

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I hear that.

I've been an atheist for quite some time but was staying at my relatives's place one Christmas. Well, they decided we should go to Christmas mass, so I went because I don't like arguing with my hosts. Well the sermon began with, "We all deserve to go to hell..." What a fantastic holiday sentiment. The priest repeated it a few times over the next 20 minutes, too. I decided to never again attend a mass. I asked my relatives about it, they all said they don't pay attention during the sermon. Go figure.

Yeah, me too. The last mass I was at was a funeral service for a niece, last spring. I went out of respect for her family, that was how they wanted to do things, but the service I found deeply offensive. There were at least five moments during it in which we were all invited to think about what miserable sinners we all are, and two of them required us to say out loud in unison, "I am not worthy," the context as I perceived it being that we're all total sh!ts but gawd in his infinite mercy loves and accepts us anyway as long as we're prepared to kiss his butt. I kept my lips firmly closed, I will not say such a thing, not to myself in the privacy of my own thoughts, and not out loud as part of a congregation. I think that's a horrible message to give to anyone, especially impressionable children, and I reject it completely.
Even more tactful. :roll:
Yet people gladly and unthinkingly go suck up all that bilgewater and then some even wonder why priorities get screwed up in their lives.